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Suchi-

@Suchi-

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#61

@sector,

I would not expect that cause its a collector's house so why will the husband make hungama there.

The goondas well they are paid so them coming had more sense.

Anandi did not foresee any goondas... so that was a total surprise but I am 100% sure no drunk husband would show up to beat up Anandi and gang.

Perhaps they would do it in the night but not in the morning. I personally am Not sure how else things could have been handled.

we have heard of the Nari morchas and seen that happen many times so Anandi did something similar to that. Naturally they do not handle things how they handle in US.

Here the social services handle things very very differently. People just dont go and start to stir things up.

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sectoreight

@sectoreight

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian
@sector,

Anandi did not foresee any goondas... so that was a total surprise but I am 100% sure no drunk husband would show up to beat up Anandi and gang.

That
100% surety is exactly what will be anandi's undoing.

People don't strike in ways and forms that we think it will happen... because then naturally we are prepared.

I would have been prepared for the womens' husbands showing up in broad daylight even to the collector's home.

Not necessarily anyone who had a sense of revenge towards anandi even... it could just be a bunch of strangers who have had no contact with anandi... but think the haveli is an easy target and just coming to case the joint.

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sectoreight

@sectoreight

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: Truthseeker
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Hehehe...had a good laugh seeing this! Good stress buster after a hectic day😃

That coming from you means so much to me Truthseeker 🤗

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Nazneen

@SiriuslySujal

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: sectoreight
Personally, I feel that Ira's stand is the correct one from where she stands.

I don't think Ira should have shouted at anandi because nobody could really have predicted the turn that a simple handicrafts and food bazaar would take. If Ira had so much foresight herself, then she should have said no right up front in the beginning. Ofcourse, once someone throws a rock at saanchi, then anyone can say that it is hindsight.

That being said, I have a more global sense of what happens after social work like anandi's in the real world. People have a sense of revenge, vendetta, vindictiveness and their pride and livelihood when hurt always leads to some form of hitting back.

When you hurt someone, he doesn't think "Oh I'm the bad guy, I deserved to have my bar shut down".

No, human nature is to hit back. The person (whether rattan or the bar owner) always will think "me? me? oh know, I wont be shown up by that chit of a girl. does she know who I am?" and the revenge they take will not be a simple tit for tat type of revenge either. The vindictiveness will be disproportionate and can go off on a tangent completely unexpected.

Someone might throw acid on anandi one day, or kidnap saanchi when coming home from college and gangrape her etc... it is not necessary that the target of the revenge will only be anandi only -- it can be choti maa, it can be daddu etc.

So, I think from that standpoint, anandi would be better off doing social work of a different type of nature -- opening schools, adult education classes etc. rather than challenging alcoholics et. al.

And from that standpoint, ira is also correct. They cannot allow open access to their home by having the fair in the front yard.

It would be best if shiv had found a proper plot or community pandal to host this, which he can easily do.

However, if anandi continues to court danger by way of her social work, then she cannot do it at the expense of the safety of other family members who do not wish to be involved in the negative repercussions.

If everyone agrees to the dangers and is solidly behind anandi, only then should she go forward with the more dangerous brand of activism. it is not enough that only shiv is behind her.

I agree with this in principle. While I am not actually watching the episodes, it doesn't sound like there has been much in the way of communication between Anandi and the rest of the family about her social work? It seems like she and Shiv have been taking their own decisions without really including everyone else. So in that sense, I can understand Ira being 'ira'-te (lol 😃). That said, it all seems rather sexist. I mean, Shiv is a collector, and was introduced as being extremely principled... surely he has annoyed people during the course of his career and has had to face problems as a result? If Ira was willing to put up with those risks when her son chose that as a career path, why create issues when her daughter-in-law wants to do work that carries similar risks?

That said, I do think using the Shekhars' front yard for that bazaar was a dumb move. I'm sure Shiv could easily have found an alternative location. Surely he is well-positioned in his profession to do so. 😕

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Nazneen

@SiriuslySujal

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: sectoreight

See suchi, why does the question of shiv "letting" her stop even arise? Is he in a superior position to give her permission? Do they have no equality in the marriage to decide what is important for themselves? Is anandi now a subservient snivelling fool?

Rather than the independent learner of teacherji's values and principles, Anandi has become a people pleaser. And people pleasers rarely get anything serious accomplished in life.

I think what Suchi meant was that Shiv will not let her stop in order to placate his mum. If she voluntarily decided that she was done with social work and wanted to focus on family independent of Ira's pressure, I'm sure he would not stop her.

I agree with the people-pleasing thing, though. It sounds like Anandi has no real gumption any more.

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sectoreight

@sectoreight

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal
I mean, Shiv is a collector, and was introduced as being extremely principled... surely he has annoyed people during the course of his career and has had to face problems as a result? If Ira was willing to put up with those risks when her son chose that as a career path, why create issues when her daughter-in-law wants to do work that carries similar risks?

Because shiv is drawing a salary and anandi is not.

Anandi is inviting all her problems for free 🤣

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Jan50

@Jan50

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#67

Anandi did have thoughts that there is a chance for bad elements in open bazaars like this. She has seen it in Jaitsar. She even voiced it to Shiv. What sector is saying is, sheshould have done lot more.

Even I agree with this. To start a bazaar, she should have also consulted Ira. After all she is also an

Important senior member ofvthe family. It is not just enough to get a clean chit from perpetual

Supporters like Daddu and Shiv. This is just common sense and also a good people skill

Ncessary for a good business decision. You get every body on your side by giving importance to

Every one cencerned. I would be offended also if iwere Ira and not consulted on an event

Taking place in front of my house. That is why Ira used the word "manmani". Anandi

Unfortunately came across to Ira that way. In addition to intentions it also matters how we come

Across. We all have suffered some times because of this.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#68

i agree with Suchi that is her character

but my only suggestion is it needs growth as otherwise it will be stagnant . Jagya's character is growing . Ira's comments r insulting to women and Anandi stands for women rights .

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 12 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: Truthseeker

Hehehe...had a good laugh seeing this! Good stress buster after a hectic day😃

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sectoreight

@sectoreight

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal
[ I mean, Shiv is a collector, and was introduced as being extremely principled... surely he has annoyed people during the course of his career and has had to face problems as a result? If Ira was willing to put up with those risks when her son chose that as a career path, why create issues when her daughter-in-law wants to do work that carries similar risks?

SiriuslySujal,

I really think that Ira till date, has not been in a position to see that anandi's chosen career path carries risks. She has seen social service as a "soft" job - going to schools, going to hospitals, volunteering, teaching women how to make papad, help them get bank loans etc etc.

I think the whole overview of what anandi's career path involved just hit her all of a sudden like a ton of bricks dropping on to her head.

That being said, in the balance, shiv doing something when there is government position and police machinery behind him is far less risky than anandi doing something in an individual capacity with neither weight of position or police machinery.

If Anandi were also an IAS officer or a police officer or something then there would be no problems for Ira.

Edited by sectoreight - 12 years ago