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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tistaa

very reasonable post Suppo...yes as a young woman I also really dont appriciate the 3rd time romance but now it is upto CVs how they are gonna show us the relationship constuction b/w Ganga and Jagya. He really did sin when he left Anandi ...bcoz that girl did so many things for him even today his every breath is her indebt...but CVs showed us that Jagya was also a victim of child marriage and Gauri was his "Sacch Pyaar" but suddenly some strange and very weak reason that Sachha pyaar has broken down...and when Jagya came back he was ready to give Anandi her lost place and that time he could do anything for her...so in this psychological stage if CVs shows that Jagya is fall again in love by himself again that would be gross but lets hope that CVs will handle that reasonablely

Seconded with you there Tistuu, and I want to see how the CVs bring it out.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samvi.

Loved ur mom's approach to your Question.


I think any human whether a man or a woman deserves a second/third/fourth chance as long as they truly change. We keep learning new things in life from our past experiences...we just have to make sure that we r getting better day by day...and not worse. True realization is what matters.

What ur mom said was so true about the existence of true love.when i say true love, i meant that unconditional love. No matter what u are u are loved.. This is very very rare...and that's the very reason everyone crave for love! We keep searching for it our whole life. Anandi's love for J was unconditional...he was not smart enough to accept it with grace. For that he lost many things including the one who loved him. Anandi is lucky to have found a wonderful man. Not all people have this luck. For the very same reason, we think she should embrace it.

When we change this into a male vs female problem, we find it hard to forgive a man who had been an MCP all his life. The more mistakes he did...the more he has to be punished. what we don't realize is that true realization is alone the biggest punishment. It feels horrible when u hate urself for the mistakes u did. J was shown to have realized his mistakes in the true sense...so i think he can move on in life.

Edit: I would have liked it more if Gauri also redeemed as J did...and they both got back together. But the cV's decided to make G the culprit for various reasons.So, coming to J-Ganga track, i think this isn't bad either. As a few members said, i do agree that their love track has to be slow. And i guess that is what they r showing too. Since Ganga was introduced as J's love interest, we r seeing every situation between J-Ganga in that way and being hasty while in reality they are just showing it in a decent way.




Bold I think that is what happens, as the onus of maintaining one man-one woman relationship falls mostly on a woman, wherein we see more instances of man getting into multiple relationships and that is what makes us difficult to forgive anyone...

Yes I would have also loved if they had concentrated on Jagya-Gauri track where both realize their mistakes... But let us wait and watch what the CVs have store for us
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Posted: 12 years ago
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About ganga, I am fine now...just an initial disappointment knowing abt her brutal back story...when I read the article abt ganga...I had an impression...her story will be like anandi means she has some beautiful phase with her hubby then got cheated...it wud have made her lil difficult to fall in love..it cud have tested jagiya's patient and effort more..from these days VO n the story progress ...it is like she will easily fall in love..jagiys will get the care n love so easily...and I don't blame her for that...she has the right to feel love and happiness in her life...she indeed faced a lots...its just not the way the track is...what i expected...and am totally irritated over jetsar's ppl's remark..."patch up with her hubby". Seriously they can even think of that...ganga's life doesn't matter for them at all.

About jagiya!!!!...there are many thing...1st he was my much loved character..n I was very upset when the lovable jagiya was lost...may be it was his constant filp flops over 2 years..everytime there was a ray...he let it down completely...I still remember when gauri had the miscarriage..many of jagiya criticizers including me...was very sure n happy abt his redemption.. specially in a thread I was like..."I always wonder how cvs will show redemption of jagiya...coz this point of time it is impossible...but I am happy to see the chance...now he has lost the kid...now if they will show some positivity abt him..even gauri...it is believable..its the biggest punishment he cud ever get"

But ahh..that was a biggest let down..he blamed anandi!!...at that time no one cant deny his faults or cant pretend..coz emotions were at peak...he lost his innocent kid ..family can forgive...other ppl can forgive...he can progress in his career but the baby...the innocent kid wont come back...their fights..their problems coz a death...I still consider its as a biggest punishment...than the financial issue revelation...thats y I was not convinced abt his redemption...and after that he got half of ppls' maafi when he was actually on revenge mode...the villagers n half of the family forgave him at that time...anandi was almost forced to forgive him..those things put me off..n not to forget the physical low phase they show in case of jag...there was no need to show a doc like that..unconvincing..may be I still consider he is not punished enough...the amount of pain n suffering cvs show in case of anandi even without her fault.

About ganga n jagiya track...these days...i want it to bit slower!!...coz both have lots of issues to settle down...

Edited by khusi_* - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Priya - Thanks for the post.😊

I do believe that every person deserves second chance and gets a second chance.

This second chance doesn't come wearing a badge saying that it is the second chance being given to him to correct the things that h/she did not do right last time.

A person will recognise it as a second chance only when he realises the mistake he made.


Jagya did get a lot of chances to correct his mistakes career wise as well as with his parents and Anandi.In the years he was with Gauri he went home a quite a few times.But he never said that he is sorry for doing what he did and sorry for hurting their feelings.Had he said that his heart would have been much lighter and he wouldn't have made a mess of his life.He thought he did the right thing but at least he could have apologised for the way he behaved with them.

Even in professional life after he was rusticated from his course he had enough no of opportunities in Mumbai itself to redeem himself at least in professional life but he did not do so

But in all these things he never saw the chances to correct himself the mistakes he made in his relationship with his family Anandi and in his professional life.Because he did not recognise them as chances because he did not blame himself for the mistakes.


Things had to turn really bad for him to realise his mistakes and even then he did not blame himself.He blamed Gauri and left her.

Things went from bad to worst before he realised that he is the reason for the way his life turned out.

Once he realised that mistakes that'sw hen he recognised the second chances.He started utilising those second chances.Ganga is part of his second chance at life and how he utilises her to make himself a better person is all about the story IMO.
Ganga is battered woman never experienced love in life I will be happy if she gets some love in life.I would have been happier if he is made to earn her love but I guess it easier to fall for him than him falling for her.
But I do hope he doesn't fall for her so early.I would love to see him caring for her and taking care in an unselfish manner before anything happens on his side.



Edited by aparnauma - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samvi.

Loved ur mom's approach to your Question.


I think any human whether a man or a woman deserves a second/third/fourth chance as long as they truly change. We keep learning new things in life from our past experiences...we just have to make sure that we r getting better day by day...and not worse. True realization is what matters.

What ur mom said was so true about the existence of true love.when i say true love, i meant that unconditional love. No matter what u are u are loved.. This is very very rare...and that's the very reason everyone crave for love! We keep searching for it our whole life. Anandi's love for J was unconditional...he was not smart enough to accept it with grace. For that he lost many things including the one who loved him. Anandi is lucky to have found a wonderful man. Not all people have this luck. For the very same reason, we think she should embrace it.

When we change this into a male vs female problem, we find it hard to forgive a man who had been an MCP all his life. The more mistakes he did...the more he has to be punished. what we don't realize is that true realization is alone the biggest punishment. It feels horrible when u hate urself for the mistakes u did. J was shown to have realized his mistakes in the true sense...so i think he can move on in life.

Edit: I would have liked it more if Gauri also redeemed as J did...and they both got back together. But the cV's decided to make G the culprit for various reasons.So, coming to J-Ganga track, i think this isn't bad either. As a few members said, i do agree that their love track has to be slow. And i guess that is what they r showing too. Since Ganga was introduced as J's love interest, we r seeing every situation between J-Ganga in that way and being hasty while in reality they are just showing it in a decent way.


well said!!👏👏⭐️
the prob is we always see the situtns male vs female & not as human beings.and i also believe in any no. of chances till the prsn realizes his/her wrong deeds & repent on them & redeem .
and i think here TM's mom has rightly said that as we'd seen women getting opprressed by men sumtimes having extra-marital affairs or making them as keeps so now we always see it in this context & we find an excuse 2 support even gauri like women also who r totally wrong just bcoz shes a woman.

@gauri redemption. i also wanted/s t but i don't want jagya-gauri pairing just like i didn't want JaAn even after jagya redeemed. if gauri realizes, repents & redeems truly & genuienly shes entitled for 4giveness & having ahppiness in her life wid sum new life-partner but not accepting back either by singhs or J just liek J is not accepted back by A .😊

@bold i agree actually sum members r feeling it as luv track & luking it from that side bcoz here we know that in future ganga"ll b wid jagya & singhs. and i think CVs've brought ganga not just 4 J but 4 singh family 2 esply BS & sumi who deserve a gud DIL like A.😊
and thatswhy i'd also said in my sum oder post that the track is gud & pace is also decent but its only sum member's perception bcoz they r not luking it from that POV as they knew CVs've brought ganga as J's luv interest.😊

@TM btw v.gud post & ur mom is bang on & v.true. u know our elders knew more than us as they'd seen more & i agree true luv i.e unconditional luv is v.rare.😊and as human beings we can fall in luv many times. 😊bcoz nature'd made these things & human beings.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Excellent point. I agree with both you and your mother funny as it sounds
See I believe Jagya deserves a second chance.Just because he is a man doesn't make his mistakes irredeemable.And yes it's a second chance because
Jagya married Anandi-Incident forced by elders who should have known better
Mistake-Jagya marrying Gauri
Second Chance-Ganga

But if they immediately start showing hearts and flowers between Jagya and Ganga it will be despicable. I have enough faith in the Cvs common sense however. I would really like it if the track plays out like this
Jagya helps Ganga as part of his repentance and a genuine pity and affection
Jagya and Ganga become close friends
A year later they can start the love track

Meanwhile romance can be provided by Ansh, another great couple. I seriously don't approve of the way they are dragging this Ansh confession and union. It merely frustrates true Ansh fans and escalates things here in the forum😆

That would be a sensible way to handle the track. Till then I hope both Jagya-Ganga fans and Anandi-Shiv fans can coexist peacefully 😊

Oh and Thank You for posting a topic like this. It's a wonderfully balanced view of the matter👏
Edited by Dr.Nix - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I myself get confused sometimes about my views on Jagya...there are times when i think that Jagya-Gauri should try to make their relationship work and meanwhile Ganga should become independent, educated and settle with someone other than Jagya...but again on second thoughts i feel that when a relation is based on lies by giving an everlasting pain to someone, how can it ever become successful? If i think from that POV, i feel that GaGa relation should never work out. Instead of that, Jagya and Ganga should be together as they can understand and make each other's lives better...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sup its not abt the number of chances, its about your mental growth to understand what kind of partner you need.Whether a man or a woman, society dont give you a right to keep falling in and out of marital relationships just bcoz you didn't find the last partner compatible enough.J can be given a chance but surely there has to be an end to it.The man needs to sit down and think what he needs out of life.Even if in future he develops feelings for Ganga he shud first make sure why is he getting attracted towards her.Is it just bcoz he sees a hint of Anandi in her - his ultimate quest in every woman or he surely loves her for the lady she is.He didnt think this when he entered into a relationship with Gauri.The only thing in his mind was that at that point of time Gauri's profile suited best to his need of hour - career-oriented,headstrong,modern etc.Later when he had enough of these things and realised that the care, the concern, the nurturing and purity which Anandi as a life-partner offered is missing in Gauri he came back to Anandi.Again an act of selfishness.

Concludingly, he surely has a right to enter in a new relationship provided he stops looking at women as substances of need fulfillment.Dr Jagdeesh Singh needs to realize that love is not a concept of I but You.And thats why I am still doubtful on his third chance.I am still not sure if he has really moved from I Me and Myself to "someone else".

But yea the way he thinks good abt Anandi these days...the way he atleast thought abt apologizing from Gauri and helped Ganga w/o any selfishness of his, I see some light at the end of the tunnel.Hopefully this time he will try loving the lady than her portfolio.
Edited by Malika - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: khusi_*

About ganga, I am fine now...just an initial disappointment knowing abt her brutal back story...when I read the article abt ganga...I had an impression...her story will be like anandi means she has some beautiful phase with her hubby then got cheated...it wud have made her lil difficult to fall in love..it cud have tested jagiya's patient and effort more..from these days VO n the story progress ...it is like she will easily fall in love..jagiys will get the care n love so easily...and I don't blame her for that...she has the right to feel love and happiness in her life...she indeed faced a lots...its just not the way the track is...expected...and am totally irritated over jetsar's ppl's remark..."patch up with her hubby". Seriously they can even think of that...ganga's life doesn't matter for them at all.

About jagiya!!!!...there are many thing...1st he was my much loved character..n I was very upset when the lovable jagiya was lost...may be it was his constant filp flops over 2 years..everytime there was a ray...he let it down completely...I still remember when gauri had the miscarriage..many of jagiya criticizers including me...was very sure n happy abt his redemption.. specially in a thread I was like..."I always wonder how cvs will show redemption of jagiya...coz this point of time it is impossible...but I am happy to see the chance...now he has lost the kid...now if they will show some positivity abt him..even gauri...it is believable..its the biggest punishment he cud ever get"

But ahh..that was a biggest let down..he blamed anandi!!...at that time no one cant deny his faults or cant pretend..coz emotions were at peak...he lost his innocent kid ..family can forgive...other ppl can forgive...he can progress in his career but the baby...the innocent kid wont come back...their fights..their problems coz a death...I still consider its as a biggest punishment...than the financial issue revelation...thats y I was not convinced abt his redemption...and after that he got half of ppls' maafi when he was actually on revenge mode...the villagers n half of the family forgave him at that time...anandi was almost forced to forgive him..those things put me off..n not to forget the physical low phase they show in case of jag...there was no need to show a doc like that..unconvincing..may be I still consider he is not punished enough...the amount of pain n suffering cvs show in case of anandi even without her fault.

About ganga n jagiya track...these days...i want it to bit slower!!...coz both have lots of issues to settle down...

Khusi thanks for giving this, as it helped to clear many of my thoughts.

Agree with you there and I think that is what is bothering us that he has not done enough for redemption. The redemption seemed too easy and not tough or punishing enough, which will make him a better person. Yes he is suffering but it may not be as much as Anandi has suffered and maybe that is what is putting us off. We want him to prove himself for once, work for a relationship. Maybe that is what we are expecting and which is not making us forgive him


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samvi.

Loved ur mom's approach to your Question.


I think any human whether a man or a woman deserves a second/third/fourth chance as long as they truly change. We keep learning new things in life from our past experiences...we just have to make sure that we r getting better day by day...and not worse. True realization is what matters.

What ur mom said was so true about the existence of true love.when i say true love, i meant that unconditional love. No matter what u are u are loved.. This is very very rare...and that's the very reason everyone crave for love! We keep searching for it our whole life. Anandi's love for J was unconditional...he was not smart enough to accept it with grace. For that he lost many things including the one who loved him. Anandi is lucky to have found a wonderful man. Not all people have this luck. For the very same reason, we think she should embrace it.

When we change this into a male vs female problem, we find it hard to forgive a man who had been an MCP all his life. The more mistakes he did...the more he has to be punished. what we don't realize is that true realization is alone the biggest punishment. It feels horrible when u hate urself for the mistakes u did. J was shown to have realized his mistakes in the true sense...so i think he can move on in life.

Edit: I would have liked it more if Gauri also redeemed as J did...and they both got back together. But the cV's decided to make G the culprit for various reasons.So, coming to J-Ganga track, i think this isn't bad either. As a few members said, i do agree that their love track has to be slow. And i guess that is what they r showing too. Since Ganga was introduced as J's love interest, we r seeing every situation between J-Ganga in that way and being hasty while in reality they are just showing it in a decent way.


i don't think its cvs fault...anjum decided to leave the show so that leaves cvs with no option but to give jagya-gauri an ending even if it is unreasonable...it happens with many shows so bv is nothing new...gehna could be replaced as when the actress left her role was is sidelined but same cannot be done for bv or it would have suffered more...bv is not an ekta kappor drama where there has to be complications and unhappy situations all the time...it wants every character to start a new life with positive manner...the show wants to give out the message of forget the past...live in present and just chill about future as no one knows what it holds

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