Does a man deserve a second/third chance - Page 3

I agree with your mom, Sups.

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Priya - Thanks for the post.😊

I do believe that every person deserves second chance and gets a second chance.

This second chance doesn't come wearing a badge saying that it is the second chance being given to him to correct the things that h/she did not do right last time.

A person will recognise it as a second chance only when he realises the mistake he made.

Jagya did get a lot of chances to correct his mistakes career wise as well as with his parents and Anandi.In the years he was with Gauri he went home a quite a few times.But he never said that he is sorry for doing what he did and sorry for hurting their feelings.Had he said that his heart would have been much lighter and he wouldn't have made a mess of his life.He thought he did the right thing but at least he could have apologised for the way he behaved with them.

Even in professional life after he was rusticated from his course he had enough no of opportunities in Mumbai itself to redeem himself at least in professional life but he did not do so

But in all these things he never saw the chances to correct himself the mistakes he made in his relationship with his family Anandi and in his professional life.Because he did not recognise them as chances because he did not blame himself for the mistakes.

Things had to turn really bad for him to realise his mistakes and even then he did not blame himself.He blamed Gauri and left her.

Things went from bad to worst before he realised that he is the reason for the way his life turned out.

Once he realised that mistakes that'sw hen he recognised the second chances.He started utilising those second chances.Ganga is part of his second chance at life and how he utilises her to make himself a better person is all about the story IMO.

Ganga is battered woman never experienced love in life I will be happy if she gets some love in life.I would have been happier if he is made to earn her love but I guess it easier to fall for him than him falling for her.

But I do hope he doesn't fall for her so early.I would love to see him caring for her and taking care in an unselfish manner before anything happens on his side.

Appy agree with you on every point and let us wait and watch how the story unfolds, But as you, Khusi and other old timers think CVs have never disappointed us

Originally posted by: khusi_*

About ganga, I am fine now...just an initial disappointment knowing abt her brutal back story...when I read the article abt ganga...I had an impression...her story will be like anandi means she has some beautiful phase with her hubby then got cheated...it wud have made her lil difficult to fall in love..it cud have tested jagiya's patient and effort more..from these days VO n the story progress ...it is like she will easily fall in love..jagiys will get the care n love so easily...and I don't blame her for that...she has the right to feel love and happiness in her life...she indeed faced a lots...its just not the way the track is...what i expected...and am totally irritated over jetsar's ppl's remark..."patch up with her hubby". Seriously they can even think of that...ganga's life doesn't matter for them at all.

About jagiya!!!!...there are many thing...1^st he was my much loved character..n I was very upset when the lovable jagiya was lost...may be it was his constant filp flops over 2 years..everytime there was a ray...he let it down completely...I still remember when gauri had the miscarriage..many of jagiya criticizers including me...was very sure n happy abt his redemption.. specially in a thread I was like..."I always wonder how cvs will show redemption of jagiya...coz this point of time it is impossible...but I am happy to see the chance...now he has lost the kid...now if they will show some positivity abt him..even gauri...it is believable..its the biggest punishment he cud ever get"

But ahh..that was a biggest let down..he blamed anandi!!...at that time no one cant deny his faults or cant pretend..coz emotions were at peak...he lost his innocent kid ..family can forgive...other ppl can forgive...he can progress in his career but the baby...the innocent kid wont come back...their fights..their problems coz a death...I still consider its as a biggest punishment...than the financial issue revelation...thats y I was not convinced abt his redemption...and after that he got half of ppls' maafi when he was actually on revenge mode...the villagers n half of the family forgave him at that time...anandi was almost forced to forgive him..those things put me off..n not to forget the physical low phase they show in case of jag...there was no need to show a doc like that..unconvincing..may be I still consider he is not punished enough...the amount of pain n suffering cvs show in case of anandi even without her fault.

About ganga n jagiya track...these days...i want it to bit slower!!...coz both have lots of issues to settle down...

Sups very valid point...Its not tht I want jagya to stay alone..I dont hav prob with his pairing with anyone except anandi...I wld hav hated JaAn reunion...but its too soon for a third pairing.
He shld be given sometime...let him live alone...realize his follies then another pairing with gauri or ganga or anyone else for tht matter wld be ok...
right now if they start a romance track...He will be proven a fickle minded...
thts why most ppl r not able to connect to jagya ganga pair...its too soon and forced...

Originally posted by: tiny15

well said!!👏👏⭐️

the prob is we always see the situtns male vs female & not as human beings.and i also believe in any no. of chances till the prsn realizes his/her wrong deeds & repent on them & redeem .

and i think here TM's mom has rightly said that as we'd seen women getting opprressed by men sumtimes having extra-marital affairs or making them as keeps so now we always see it in this context & we find an excuse 2 support even gauri like women also who r totally wrong just bcoz shes a woman.

@gauri redemption. i also wanted/s t but i don't want jagya-gauri pairing just like i didn't want JaAn even after jagya redeemed. if gauri realizes, repents & redeems truly & genuienly shes entitled for 4giveness & having ahppiness in her life wid sum new life-partner but not accepting back either by singhs or J just liek J is not accepted back by A .😊

@bold i agree actually sum members r feeling it as luv track & luking it from that side bcoz here we know that in future ganga"ll b wid jagya & singhs. and i think CVs've brought ganga not just 4 J but 4 singh family 2 esply BS & sumi who deserve a gud DIL like A.😊

and thatswhy i'd also said in my sum oder post that the track is gud & pace is also decent but its only sum member's perception bcoz they r not luking it from that POV as they knew CVs've brought ganga as J's luv interest.😊

@TM btw v.gud post & ur mom is bang on & v.true. u know our elders knew more than us as they'd seen more & i agree true luv i.e unconditional luv is v.rare.😊and as human beings we can fall in luv many times. 😊bcoz nature'd made these things & human beings.

Bold maybe you are right and in our quest for ideal love we tend to get highly disappointed😊

Originally posted by: Dr.Nix

Excellent point. I agree with both you and your mother funny as it sounds

See I believe Jagya deserves a second chance.Just because he is a man doesn't make his mistakes irredeemable.And yes it's a second chance because

Jagya married Anandi-Incident forced by elders who should have known better

Mistake-Jagya marrying Gauri

Second Chance-Ganga

But if they immediately start showing hearts and flowers between Jagya and Ganga it will be despicable. I have enough faith in the Cvs common sense however. I would really like it if the track plays out like this

Jagya helps Ganga as part of his repentance and a genuine pity and affection

Jagya and Ganga become close friends

A year later they can start the love track

Meanwhile romance can be provided by Ansh, another great couple. I seriously don't approve of the way they are dragging this Ansh confession and union. It merely frustrates true Ansh fans and escalates things here in the forum😆

That would be a sensible way to handle the track. Till then I hope both Jagya-Ganga fans and Anandi-Shiv fans can coexist peacefully 😊

Oh and Thank You for posting a topic like this. It's a wonderfully balanced view of the matter👏

Thanks for appreciating this post and the views... I tried to be as neutral about it. and I agree with you on the bold

Originally posted by: libsrocks

sorry to conflict ur ideas but i don't think ganga is a girl to fall in love very fast...she is just showing her true nature (sweet,bubbly and loving).and if we see then it was almost the same for anandi...she ,apart from jagya ,was never much close to any other man but yet she did became quite close to shiv in name of friendship...she did champi to him which was quite unlike anandi to come so close to a man...i am not bashing her but seeing how reserve anandi is she was quite open with shiv...she only got back in her shell when the marriage proposal came out

Originally posted by: khusi_*

I am NOT blaming ganga for falling in love...if she will...

in my POV...I said it coz her heart is not scarred in love like anandi...she never felt love unlike anandi'that part of ganga's heart is untouched..unhurt...unlike anandi...so I said it one thread either ganga will fall in love easily than anandi or it will be extremely difficult for her to fall in love(extremely difficult i said..coz i thought she will very bitter towards evryone including singh's due to her backstory!)...n I am not talking abt physical proximity between ganag n jagiya...I am talking abt emotional level too...love is not all abt physical level.

Abt anandi...the champi she did...to a sick person who has needed the care at that time'.not the handsome man ...if there wud have a 5 year old kid or 50 year old man in shiv's palce anandi wud have done the same...that's nothing to do with love angle in her mind...she is very much into her character...anandi took a lot of time to even talk to shiv properly'.so she had the frdship with shiv that easily..i don't think so...that's was a strict professional relationship...and she became lil soft after saagai only...well anandi's case in terms of love n hurt is entirely diff from ganga's.

Agree with you Khusi there the walls/barriers come from our experiences and conditioning.
For Anandi, she already had one experienced romance, passion and love with Jagya, so it was extremely difficult for her to fall in love again, due to the conditioned concept that one can fall in love only once.

With Ganga, she never experienced love and for her marriage was more of a bargain and slavery, and duty, so for her to develop a soft corner for a more humane person may be relatively easier.
I am saying soft corner and not love as of now... For her a person like Jagya also may be rare, who is humane to her.

Originally posted by: Malika

Sup its not abt the number of chances, its about your mental growth to understand what kind of partner you need.Whether a man or a woman, society dont give you a right to keep falling in and out of marital relationships just bcoz you didn't find the last partner compatible enough.J can be given a chance but surely there has to be an end to it.The man needs to sit down and think what he needs out of life.Even if in future he develops feelings for Ganga he shud first make sure why is he getting attracted towards her.Is it just bcoz he sees a hint of Anandi in her - his ultimate quest in every woman or he surely loves her for the lady she is.He didnt think this when he entered into a relationship with Gauri.The only thing in his mind was that at that point of time Gauri's profile suited best to his need of hour - career-oriented,headstrong,modern etc.Later when he had enough of these things and realised that the care, the concern, the nurturing and purity which Anandi as a life-partner offered is missing in Gauri he came back to Anandi.Again an act of selfishness.

Concludingly, he surely has a right to enter in a new relationship provided he stops looking at women as substances of need fulfillment.Dr Jagdeesh Singh needs to realize that love is not a concept of I but You.And thats why I am still doubtful on his third chance.I am still not sure if he has really moved from I Me and Myself to "someone else".

But yea the way he thinks good abt Anandi these days...the way he atleast thought abt apologizing from Gauri and helped Ganga w/o any selfishness of his, I see some light at the end of the tunnel.Hopefully this time he will try loving the lady than her portfolio.

One thing I really concur with you that Jagya Ganga relationship should be based of what he sees in Ganga and not because he sees something of Anandi in Ganga for himself and Singhs. That will be a disaster. He should accept Ganga for what she is and learn to adjust and live with that. I really do hope that the CVs show that..but it has to be slow and gradual.

And as you said in the end there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

i feel cvs should have shown gauri and jagya rectifying their mistakes and be caring parents and stay together.When u have a wife why to make another one .Every big pain and anger can be healed by love and family should have given a thought on this Would she be ever against them if every thing was normal after all your son left ull on his wish even before even gauri knew about all this rather settling him with new girl.
Regarding ganga all i want her to be happy in life she can do what she likes .study be independant .Take care of baby .Somehow i feel ganga is already fallen in love with jagya but jagya has a complicated status i mean gauri and baby ,complications to arise.May be cvs have brought ganga for a reason may be jagya and gauri will want to get back together but sacrisfice thinking about family ,to show that change in them.I dont know what going to happen but ganga shouldnt fall in this mess.