Does a man deserve a second/third chance

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi All,This is purely a discussion or debate and it is not intended to start any bashing or counter bashing. If I personally see fan wars and personalized comments I don't mind this getting closed

The other day I was watching BV with my mom when Jagya Ganga scene came up when she dashed against him in the stairs. Since I knew prior hand the information of brewing romance I was not comfortable with that scene. My mom noticed it and asked me what? Then I told her that I was not comfortable promoting Ganga as love interest for Jagya.

Then her one question bowled me over-
Question was why do you think so? Does he not deserve another chance to live his life especially if one thinks he is redeeming? If we can advocate for Tihar Jail inmates then why not him?
I then asked her is this believable that a man can fall in and out of relationship so many times? She only told me one thing that there is no concept of true love in real life. In real life trust, friendship and others define your relationship.Yes his trustworthiness will be always in question and no 100% guarantee there. But again that is a question mark there with no concrete answers.

This led me to think, as to why are we so against Jagya and Ganga pairing? What is it that it is making us difficult to forgive him? Could it be because that we have seen so much of women oppression and men having as many wives as they please that we are unable to digest so many relationships for a man? That we are correlating him with every MCP man that we see.

I still dont have any answers for that, but subsequently my mom's question when I thought over it brought me peace and now I am at peace to enjoy BV and the story as it unfolds. I may not be as benevolent as Anandi and forgive him completely but am at peace..

Let us see what BV CVs have in store for us..

Healthy comments are most welcome and thanks for reading my rant...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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What you felt, and what you said to your mother was correct. Because we as young women, dont understand why a person should be given second chances.

If i was in Anandi's place, i wudnt have forgiven him. Most of us wouldnt have. But now that she has, I hope Jagya face charges for his wrong doings a little more.

The BV writers have to be very careful at this stage and handling the situation is a work of art. True, Jagya-Ganga romance is too early for now and they should slow down. It should be a very slow procedure from victim-savior to acquaintances to friends and then maybe finally to something more.

Showing a romantic track wud completely ruin the beauty of the show. Firstly, audience wudnt accept it whole heartedly. Secondly, it's too soon. Thirdly, there is a LOT more to be shown.

Jagya and Ganga wudnt be the best thing for now and i think sidelining it wud be a better idea. Future mein if they show it, when everyhing has settled, wud be better.

For now, all I want is AnSh confession and the official start of their marriage.
Edited by Princess.. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Any person deserve a chance, but you know past cannot be shred away at one go.Two mistakes cannot be washed away. Anandi - it is a blessing in disguise, because she has got shiv with him. Gouri will come and haunt him when he finds his new happiness in life.

I expect only one thing from him, be matured enough to handle your problems, not lean on Anandi and Shiv for support. Jagya Ganga will not be a love story, it will be different.

But I truely believe jagya given a chance will handle it better than Anandi. Not one step back and one step front.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Even i agree with you...the romance track should not be very fast but i think it should be there...i don't see Gauri returning. Guess she has moved on in her life and also aborted her child...she is happy and successful in her life so let her be...why bring her back and create complications...Anandi had luckily and finally got her life partner in true sense...she is happy and has forgiven Jagya and moved on so i don't see any reason for Jagya to be punished for the past whole life...whatever happened with Jagya was an effect of Bal Vivah...Anandi had a wrong concept that one can never fall in love twice but she did fall for Shiv...in the same way Jagya also had wrong concepts of relations...Jagya's way to get married to Gauri was wrong but not his decision...he was forced to live with Anandi(forced means his mind was manipulated by elders that anandi was her wife and he has to spent whole life with her...people said that anandi was taught by elders to love jagya and follow her duties but then the same goes for jagya..even he was taught the same things about marriage which made him accept his fate) but when he started seeing the world outside Jaitsar that too without any adult's guidance so it was bound to happen...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A very interesting topic Supriya...

Anandi's pain and suffering was shown for a very long time. I was so eager to see her find happiness in life and also to see Jagya-Gauri suffering. So what i feel is that this is just the beginning of Jagya's redemption. He still has to prove himself worthy in many ways before he can again think of marrying.

I believe that if a person truly repents, he/she deserves another chance. I'm for Jagya-Ganga pairing in future as i feel that she will bring out the good in him and similarly he too will give her the happiness she deserves. But i want all this to happen within a course of time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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very reasonable post Suppo...yes as a young woman I also really dont appriciate the 3rd time romance but now it is upto CVs how they are gonna show us the relationship constuction b/w Ganga and Jagya. He really did sin when he left Anandi ...bcoz that girl did so many things for him even today his every breath is her indebt...but CVs showed us that Jagya was also a victim of child marriage and Gauri was his "Sacch Pyaar" but suddenly some strange and very weak reason that Sachha pyaar has broken down...and when Jagya came back he was ready to give Anandi her lost place and that time he could do anything for her...so in this psychological stage if CVs shows that Jagya is fall again in love by himself again that would be gross but lets hope that CVs will handle that reasonablely
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Loved ur mom's approach to your Question.

I think any human whether a man or a woman deserves a second/third/fourth chance as long as they truly change. We keep learning new things in life from our past experiences...we just have to make sure that we r getting better day by day...and not worse. True realization is what matters.

What ur mom said was so true about the existence of true love.when i say true love, i meant that unconditional love. No matter what u are u are loved.. This is very very rare...and that's the very reason everyone crave for love! We keep searching for it our whole life. Anandi's love for J was unconditional...he was not smart enough to accept it with grace. For that he lost many things including the one who loved him. Anandi is lucky to have found a wonderful man. Not all people have this luck. For the very same reason, we think she should embrace it.

When we change this into a male vs female problem, we find it hard to forgive a man who had been an MCP all his life. The more mistakes he did...the more he has to be punished. what we don't realize is that true realization is alone the biggest punishment. It feels horrible when u hate urself for the mistakes u did. J was shown to have realized his mistakes in the true sense...so i think he can move on in life.

Edit: I would have liked it more if Gauri also redeemed as J did...and they both got back together. But the cV's decided to make G the culprit for various reasons.So, coming to J-Ganga track, i think this isn't bad either. As a few members said, i do agree that their love track has to be slow. And i guess that is what they r showing too. Since Ganga was introduced as J's love interest, we r seeing every situation between J-Ganga in that way and being hasty while in reality they are just showing it in a decent way.


Edited by samvi. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Good point and debate sups

i think every person deserves a second chance but a thirs is unlikely ! still if a peron is redeeming oneself ten he or she shud get the chance and praisal ! for their efforts

ANd ya abt J well he has done bad but yes he has done it thrice so i think For accepting J as redeemed is a sort of well it will take time to digest !

and I wanted J to live arighteous life for few months before romancing another woman as CVs want to show 😆for now
Edited by ritzi12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Good post. In a way both u and your mother are right. As I already stated in some other thread, I do not want more marriages for Jagya. But I do believe that people should be given another chance. We all know that in serials they generally do not show a person, (who was negative/gray/had done great injustice against positive people) suffer for a long time. The repentance/redemption is over super fast. This is the only reason I do not want another chance to jagya at present. If CVs want him to marry again, they should at least show it after a considerable time during which he work for the community selflessly. I will like it if DS suggest new marriage for Jagya and he refuse saying he still has to do his prayashchit.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Princess..

What you felt, and what you said to your mother was correct. Because we as young women, dont understand why a person should be given second chances.

If i was in Anandi's place, i wudnt have forgiven him. Most of us wouldnt have. But now that she has, I hope Jagya face charges for his wrong doings a litle more.

The BV writers have to be very careful at this stage and handling the situation is a work of art. True, Jagya-Ganga romance is too early for now and they should slow down. It should be a very slow procedure from victim-savior to acquiantances to friends and then maybe finally to something more.

Showing a romantic track wud completely ruin the beauty of the show. Firstly, audience wudnt accept it whole heartedly. Secondly, it's too soon. Thirdly, there is a LOT more to be shown.

Jagya and Ganga wudnt be the best thing for now and i think sidelining it wud be a better idea. Future mein if they show it, when everyhing has settled, wud be better.

For now, all I want is AnSh confession and the official start of their marriage.



Thanks and agree with you, librocks, and others where I would also like their relationship to ,be shown slow and steady more on a humanitarian approach and show his redemption track before jumping into any further relationship...

It has to be slow and they have to do it subtly rather than forcefully dumping it on us.

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