What world do the makers live in? - Page 3

The show has been regressive for most part right from portraying the OG Akshara blood is the legacy child who can carry the family values to next gen! Look what happened with Gen3!

My pov. Im not pro manjari always. Manjari has said her fair share of nonsense. But, you can just view it as a selfish thought keeping only her son’s interest in mind.
On that note of choosing selfish interests, let’s see what muskaan’s opinion would have been if Abhira married and Akshara announces her pregnancy with Abhi next month. Will she show the same care and concern we saw her showing to her bhabhi Becos she isn’t carrying her ‘bhaiji’s khoon’ anymore? Will she willingly raise their kids after Ak-Abhi demise like she said she would?
All humans behave this way in few instances of their lives too. Choosing selfish interests first. They just don’t voice it out loud like manjari here.Realistically speaking, everyone in such situations would take time off to think before making drastic decisions... !

also, becos you mentioned donor and surrogacy topics— there is a difference in choosing to have a favorite in itv character and choosing your options for real self. It’s knowing what’s Reel and Real..!

Originally posted by: Sayanti94

I can agree with u in one part that Akshara should have informed someone about the child in between those years when she was in Kasauli and the only justification I can give that she is a flawed human being or she was afraid that Abhimanyu will take away the child from her but I don't find anything wrong with her moving on with Nav and neither do I get the hate which AbhiN gets from the fandom.He helped a women in need and always wanted a family and saw a chance when Akshara wanted to make him the father but never forced anything Even during consummation Akshara herself went to him and now the current track disgusts me .Everything is wrong with this track and all the characters of this show are proving themselves to be hypocrites and makers are trying to show it in a way and justify all characters as if it's correct

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising

I agree that a woman should not feel guilty for moving on and that both men and women have the right to embrace new beginnings in life. However, it’s not moving on per se but the entire narrative which incorporated that track into the story is disgusting and would offend most women on how the FL is portrayed. Since Akshara is the main character of the story being the legacy child - obviously she will be analyzed and judged more than others including the cameo or the ML of this season!

She had no issues with her own family, yet went away and didn’t return even when her grandfather (BP) came to pick her up. Then she started living with an absolute stranger. Her pregnancy even before leap was the result of a lawful union - why hide it from her family? - In every family or social circle there would be those with regressive thinking but there are also those who are accepting and caring - tell at least one person! But there had been many supporters of that track so why would makers shy away from repeating similar scenarios again?

I have stopped bothering about their content seriously because they don’t seem to put any thought into writing this ridiculous story themselves.

i believe that makers have given enough justification forr akshu staying away from her so called family......

abhi's behaviou on WD and after that when akshu called him multiple times to inform about abhir...

lack of support from her family when she returned for mimi's bday...the way manjari was shouting at her, blaming her....

and mainly now....how goenkas have emotionally manipulated her thru abhir (hiding the important info abt how akshu was treated by his dadda and dida)....trying to hide pregnancy so that she gets married....its like pushing her to abhi....

agar abhi yeh haal hai when the baby is abhinav's,.....uss waqt to pakka akshu ko abhi ke ghar ke darwaaze per phenk kar aa jaate yeh goenkas...

So IMO, alshu ka goenkas se door rahna was the best decision.....

My main question is, ...after teh WD, akshu was in a foreign surroundings, miscarried, emotionally physically mentally weak......if goenkas were a family, y could not anyone visit her during that time..or offer to stay with her??? agar unhe koi farak hi nahi padta, to isnt it better she was there on her own??

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

By Manjiri's own logic she never loved Neil as he wasn't her biological son, her blood, like she loved Abhimanyu that's why she hid his paternity from entire family for 20+ years. She let a child get abused by his own biological father. She let Birla's "khoon" dwell on sadness after getting beaten up & thrashed by his own biological father which Harsh never did to Abhimanyu. Wasn't she the one who claimed to raise Abhimanyu better? Or she herself think Abhimanyu is like Harsh? Why she created havoc over "I lost a son" when by her own logic she was never a mother to Neil as they didn't share "khoon ka rishta"? Here Abhimanyu fans aka Manjiri fans justify her demands from Akshara to abort her child. Seriously?

Even an extremely regressive hypocrite like KD was bearable character she never asked Gayu to abort or to chose between her unborn child and Goenka family. No matter how much KD loved Kittu but Kartik fans never justified her wrong deeds.

manjari has been shown a total hypocrite.....sab se openly to she was questioned by her own sister...she wanted shivu to stay with shefali as shefali is the mom...but abhior to stay with her son..as bow abhi is her son.....heights....

abhi to....when neil was angry ki y his identity was hidden, he supported his mom....jab ki manjari was not shown even trying to tell the truth about neil...and akshu called abhi many tmes...abhi rejected the calls...but fault is akshu;s.......ki y did u not try harder?? bhai kitna aur???😂

It will be less if I say it is mind-boggling and illegal to some extent what they are showing....

In this era, on an international TV platform (a good number of NRI watch this) they are dishing out the crap of aborting a child to satisfy would be MIL's perception (not even would be husband), and other characters are listening.

If I am even hearing this crap from my would-be in-laws the first thing that will come out of my mouth will be that I will only get married if my would be husband will leave these crappy families for the two kids' betterment. I can already see how one kid is in the verge of getting spoiled and a lesser human by proposing bad for an unborn sibling.

I stopped watching, but the updates in the forum make me go and look sometime, and this is one of those episodes, and my blood is boiling.

Originally posted by: Ambajee

The show has been regressive for most part right from portraying the OG Akshara blood is the legacy child who can carry the family values to next gen! Look what happened with Gen3!

My pov. Im not pro manjari always. Manjari has said her fair share of nonsense. But, you can just view it as a selfish thought keeping only her son’s interest in mind.
On that note of choosing selfish interests, let’s see what muskaan’s opinion would have been if Abhira married and Akshara announces her pregnancy with Abhi next month. Will she show the same care and concern we saw her showing to her bhabhi Becos she isn’t carrying her ‘bhaiji’s khoon’ anymore? Will she willingly raise their kids after Ak-Abhi demise like she said she would?
All humans behave this way in few instances of their lives too. Choosing selfish interests first. They just don’t voice it out loud like manjari here.Realistically speaking, everyone in such situations would take time off to think before making drastic decisions... !

also, becos you mentioned donor and surrogacy topics— there is a difference in choosing to have a favorite in itv character and choosing your options for real self. It’s knowing what’s Reel and Real..!

@bold Muskan won't be happy for sure but would she ask Akshara to abort Abhi's child she is carrying? Does she has that authority to make such demands? Even with given authority can she make such unreasonable demand? Having a bias towards own family's child is rinse & repeat in ITV & not a novel concept but asking a woman to abort her child before marriage just because she isn't their "khoon" is what only Manjiri mata can do. Insane characters/ppl like Manjiri mostly have expectations from their puppets (sons) as they control them. Here instead of controlling Abhimanyu like always or doing emotional atyachar like she did while getting him married to Arohi she is pressurizing Akshara or demanding to abort her child just because that child isn't her "khoon" is beyond comprehension. She nullified her love for a child (Neil) who wasn't her "khoon". Most annoying part is if she was part of Ekta's show her character would be clearly termed as "negative role" but here she is "mahan maa" who can never be wrong as she is Abhimanyu's maa who himself can never be wrong.

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold Muskan won't be happy for sure but would she ask Akshara to abort Abhi's child she is carrying? Does she has that authority to make such demands? Even with given authority can she make such unreasonable demand? Having a bias towards own family's child is rinse & repeat in ITV & not a novel concept but asking a woman to abort her child before marriage just because she isn't their "khoon" is what only Manjiri mata can do. Insane characters/ppl like Manjiri mostly have expectations from their puppets (sons) as they control them. Here instead of controlling Abhimanyu like always or doing emotional atyachar like she did while getting him married to Arohi she is pressurizing Akshara or demanding to abort her child just because that child isn't her "khoon" is beyond comprehension. No character would ever do that. Only Manjiri mata is capable of it. She nullified her love for a child (Neil) who wasn't her "khoon". Most annoying part is if she was part of Ekta's show her character would be clearly termed as "negative role" but here she is "mahan maa" who can never be wrong as she is Abhimanyu's maa who himself can never be wrong.

Lol! I m not justifying Manjari. I said that first! She cannot ask Akshara to abort the child. She has sprouted fair share of nonsense just like every other character in this show! She is not really a villain but a temp lapse due to selfish interest! Atleast she can be corrected and shown the right way of life becos we know she voices out the crappy thoughts in her mind! Even Mimi I remember wanted Arohi to abort the child after Neil’s death and manjari was against it. Tab ppl Wer again calling out manjari for making decisions for Arohi!
More than I can say for ppl who wants to celebrate funeral on a wedding!

Originally posted by: Sayanti94

I am very much having problem with the makers for the way they are potraying Manjiri as if all her demands are justified.Soneone needs to be the voice of the audience in this show and potray her as she is a villain.I was expecting Manjiri to be understanding towards Akshara.She herself has gone through so much in life still didnot learn this lesson that family are the people who loves u doesn't matter whether u have a blood relation with them or not.

the writing is so inconsistent when you see Aarohi and Abhi listening to Manjari’s crap of khoon ka rishta standing there where we audience were haviving jaw dropping moments thinking about Neil. How the same hypocrite Manjiri and Swarna raised their step sons.

Are these writers and production house real??? How come Aarohi couldn’t even ask Why Roohi and I are still around if this is your perception about step children. Like seriously!!!😈

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

i do understand your pov but the way akshara has behaved with abhimanyu from past 8 years which even forced him to commit suicide, manjari being a mother who is growing old will always wish for her son to have some one who will protect him post her demise.

Akshara has many instance where she believed anyone over abhi and when they said abhimanyu killed abhinav. If she would have not gotten proof at the right time abhimanyu would have been behind bars and if tomorrow something happens to abhinav kid she will not take a second to blame it on abhi and make his life miserable.

Similarly, she has questioned her upbringing and her son's love tagged them as umar kaid. Her gratitude/love for her ex dead husband is so strong that she will not take a second to show abhi his place by saying you are not her father or you are being rude because you are not her father. Where as with abhinav she has always made sure to say you are abhir's father. That's the difference.

Manjari being a mother seeing her son suffered enough because of akshara will surely want to ensure that akshara married abhimanyu for love. She even asked akshara to accept this relation before pregnancy revealation which she denied. So now with the kid she will never accept abhimanyu.

Either she has to accept abhimanyu and marry him and convince manjari that she will give equal love to abhi which will make manjari to accept her kid or she has to take some other decision which will not impact manjari's son.

Not sure if you have seen the show but after this manjari would want assurity from akshara before marriage.

That's all my points. Yeah we are free to disagree.

@red Is Ahimanyu a child to be protected? Mothers do want their sons/daughters to get married & settle in their lives but there are ppl who remarry & accept children of their partners. Does that make them less protected?? Few people generally get remarried but don't accept the child of their spouse but none demands the death of unborn child.

@blue Why should Akshara convince Manjiri? Who is Manjiri? Is Akshara getting married because she loves Abhimanyu? No. Is Akshara getting married because she once loved Abhimanyu & it would be better if they raised their child together. Yes. Is Akshara pleading Manjiri's son Abhimanyu to get married to her? No. Is she pressurizing Abhimanyu to give love to her & Abhinav's child? No. For what purpose should Akshara convince Manjiri? Abhimanyu must convince Manjiri not Akshara whom Manjiri loathed for years & blames for slightest wrong, as getting remarried to Akshara despite her clearing her stance is now Abhimanyu's choice not Akshara's.

@green Any one instance of her being Akshara Birla & believing anyone over Abhimanyu? (Her stupid sacrifice wasn't because she didn't trust him) Any single instance? Yes Akshara Sharma who was divorced & abandoned by Abhimanyu in most vulnerable state might have believed anyone over Abhimanyu several times. There were instances where Abhimanyu Birla believed "anyone" over his wife Akshara Birla. During Neil's paternity track Abhimanyu & Manjiri believed Akshara showed paternity report to Neil when she didn't though Ak denied several times but Abhimanyu-Manjiri didn't believe her, so Akshara must be more doubtful.

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@red Is Ahimanyu a child to be protected? Mothers do want their sons/daughters to get married & settle in their lives but there are ppl who remarry & accept children of their partners. Does that make them less protected?? Few people generally get remarried but don't accept the child of their spouse but none demands the death of unborn child.

@blue Why should Akshara convince Manjiri? Who is Manjiri? Is Akshara getting married because she loves Abhimanyu? No. Is Akshara getting married because she once loved Abhimanyu & it would be better if they raised their child together. Yes. Is Akshara pleading Manjiri's son Abhimanyu to get married to her? No. Is she pressurizing Abhimanyu to give love to her & Abhinav's child? No. For what purpose should Akshara convince Manjiri? Abhimanyu must convince Manjiri not Akshara whom Manjiri loathed for years & blames for slightest wrong, as getting remarried to Akshara despite her clearing her stance is now Abhimanyu's choice not Akshara's.

@green Any one instance of her being Akshara Birla & believing anyone over Abhimanyu? (Her stupid sacrifice wasn't because she didn't trust him) Any single instance? Yes Akshara Sharma who was divorced & abandoned by Abhimanyu in most vulnerable state might have believed anyone over Abhimanyu several times. There were instances where Abhimanyu Birla believed "anyone" over his wife Akshara Birla. During Neil's paternity track Abhimanyu & Manjiri believed Akshara showed paternity report to Neil when she didn't though Ak denied several times but Abhimanyu-Manjiri didn't believe her, so Akshara must be more doubtful.

I can feel happy for any other couple who get back together but women like akshara will not deserve my ounce of sympathy who had no guilt or remorse for what she did with abhi for last 7 years. She was happily gloating her happy family infront of him ab kya hua. Why she is okay to co parent post abhinav's death. Why abhinav being alive was curse to abhimanyu. If abhinav would be alive she would have been that crap women who keeps in laws away from kid in the name of revenge.

Lol akshara herself proposed abhimanyu. Neither abhimanyu forced her nor manjari. Manjari asked akshara to convince abhi to move on. As she has clearly moved on in life. What happened so suddenly that she can't see her friend moving on and decided to propose him knowing that she will never be able to give him the same love as she never did any justice to him in the past. It was pure selfish reason she decided to marry him. Now also she asked abhimanyu kya tum mere bacche ko pyar doge. The lady who said birla's are toxic wants same birla's to accept her kid and hail her deeds.

Lol if we dig deep even abhimanyu trusted akshu when kairav was framed in anisha's murder. But akshara framed him in abhinav's murder. She has seen abhimanyu saving her family, her husband and her kid and she thinks abhimanyu is cold blooded murderer sure akshara enjoy your delusion. Abhimanyu is not like her. He will give up his life but never let anyone to get harmed because of him. Unlike akshara who is framed for multiple frauds, accidents and deaths but still roaming as lawyer.

In the end everyone has their own pov feel free to disagree. Manjari looks much better than akshara. She atleast does everything for abhi. Unlike akshara who was doing piya bawri when her just operated son came back to kasauli and sent him to neelamma's house. 😄