What world do the makers live in?

Posted: 1 years ago
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I used to watch this show when it first started. I gave up after the leap when the story went ahead with Naksh and Naira and so on. I kind of kept myself updated a little bit when Naksh and Keerti's story played out because it touched on the issue of domestic abuse. The show did not interest me post then even after Harshad Chopda entered. I'd watched his earlier shows and liked his presence. However that wasn't enough to lure me back.


Anyway the reason why I'm making this post is the disgusting, archaic and regressive lines given to the characters in today's episode. I have been following this last development of Akshara's pregnancy simply because, for a change, it is about a woman moving on. It is about the consequences that a man, who is deeply in love with his ex, would have to face in that situation. I found it just a tad intriguing and so I have been keeping track.


I am not sitting in moral judgment on these characters, like most real humans they're all deeply flawed too. So I am not bothered about who ends up with whom.


However this whole nonsense of a parent's love being more genuine and deep only if the child is biologically his or hers makes me sick to the core.


We live in 2023 for God's sake!


This is the era of surrogacy, sperm and egg donation and what not. People are willing to spend lakhs if not more for a child that is even partly theirs in some way. Husbands who are infertile don't have a problem about using sperm donors. Wives who cannot procreate are willing to go with egg donors and surrogacy.

Then there is the much larger issue, that if adoption. I personally know two families that chose to adopt their second child. Both families have not differentiated in any way between their biological child and the adopted one. Seeing them all together is heart warming as also life-affirming.


Against this real world, you have a mother go and propose to her ex and now would-be daughter-in-law that she should abort her foetus and that she won't be doing justice to her ex and now would-be husband and her first born or else. And you have another mother, a cruel one albeit and one that pushed her biological child away to prove herself devoted to her husband's children from his first marriage, agreeing with this. And they try to make these arguments so convincing and insist that they have the couple-to-be's interests at heart. When in truth, they are small-minded people with a warped sense of right and wrong. I almost puked listening to the mother go on about how one can never love a child with whom one has no biological connection as much you would love your own blood. Ladies, there are enough people out there who love their pets, who are a different species altogether, as much if not more than their biological children.


Manjari is a character filled with bitterness from what I understand. She has had to deal with her husband's infidelity for a lifetime. She has tried to be a better person by bringing the product of that infidelity into her home. However the cruel streak in her ensured she kept the truth from the biological father who treated the child as worse than dirt. Even while trying to boost her own sense of self by being there for the child and loving him, she has done injustice to him by making him feel beholden to her for something that is in truth his legal right.


She is now viewing this whole situation between the leads through this lens. While our life experiences do shape our thinking, it would be grossly unfair for us to try and equate those to unequal situations and try to apply our own learnings to the same.


Akshara has not indulged in a pre-marital Or an extra-marital affair. Ergo, she is not Harsh Birla. And Abhimanyu is not Manjari. He is not this person who has to deal with the consequences of an unfaithful partner's actions. He is choosing to become a father to Akshara's unborn child. It is a choice he is making, not something that is being forced on him.

I am not going to get into the nonsense of trying to hide the pregnancy truth from Akshara and Abhimanyu. I am only focusing on the now and here. However, I must say that grand old lady has a far better opinion of Manjari's son than she herself does. She is convinced that Abhimanyu will accept Akshara's unborn child wholeheartedly. While his own mother is convinced that he won't be able to love the child as much as he loves his biological sense.


Sorry to say, either Manjari is projecting her own insecurities on Abhimanyu or she doesn't have much of an opinion of what her son is capable of.


Anyway since all these characters are fictional, the real questions should be asked of the makers.


What kind of regressive crap are you peddling in the name of drama?


The world has moved well past this nonsensical debate on blood vs upbringing. Please spring-clean your minds and get rid of the dusty cobwebs within.


In the name of drama, please don't influence minds and undo the progress that has been made.


If a woman can accept a man with past baggage, so can a man. I am not referring to a child as baggage here, but only traumas, fears and insecurities.


Please do not make women feel guilty about moving on. They have as much of a right to it as men do. The world of relationships is not black and white. Embrace it is all its vibrancy rather than trying to paint it in black and white.


Lastly, let us as an audience engage with the makers and channels by questioning these kinds of regressive plots. Fictional pairings won't damage the thinking of the world we live in as much as such regressive plots and portrayals would!

I don't care who gets together with whom, but please spare us from the toxicity of such dangerously regressive thoughts.


P. S - a humble request.. Let us keep this post only about what has been expressed in it, not about this couple vs that couple. That is of no consequence in the larger scheme of things. I won't be responding to any such comments since I dont follow the show particularly. My limited point is restricted to what was shown and said in today's episode. I found it vile and disturbing and had to express my thoughts. That's all!

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Posted: 1 years ago
#2

It's not that deep and that you are expecting progressive mindset from the longest running show where multiple awful things have been shown since the start is hilarious.


World hasn't moved on from blood non blood lol at least not in India and India forums.

Posted: 1 years ago
#3

I think I have a right to my expectations and the right to express the same.


If you think the world hasn't moved on, then you speak from your own understanding and experiences. I have spoken based on mine.


Thank you for responding!

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Team Abhimanyu (Gen 3)

Posted: 1 years ago
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You are expecting too much from the show which runs on blood of previous gen fl smiley37 when dkp himself promoting concept of khoon wali beti will be future gen lead and turn every sane character insane next gen it's waste to expect anything. To be honest roohi deserves to be lead of next gen.how many people will support this here?

Will you support if roohi becomes lead of next gen? Considering she has golden heart?

Nobody will support as they want akshanav ki beti to be lead or abhira ki beti to be lead so why to question others or other characters or opinions.

Manjari has proved enough that she does not care about blood by raising neil. Her major concern is akshara will made sure her daughter hates abhimanyu by glorifying abhinav. She will not replace abhinav she will hail abhinav and make her daughter hate abhimanyu for killing her father if muskaan feeds her brain.

Manjari has every right to choose happiness for her son. She has seen akshara questioning birla's in the past. She is no where wrong putting her concerns out. Will akshara ensure that her future daughter will accept abhi by replacong abhinav like how she did by replacing abhimanyu from abhir's life.

She will not so she should better find a new dad. Her dialogues are correct shadi dosti ke liye nahi hothi. She should accept abhi as her husband. Agar woh nahi kar sakthi she can't marry anyone to just to give father for her kids.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

I think I have a right to my expectations and the right to express the same.


If you think the world hasn't moved on, then you speak from your own understanding and experiences. I have spoken based on mine.


Thank you for responding!

who's stopping you from your right? But if your expectations is from this serial, or any itv serial for the matter lol nope the makers don't care about that they want their moolah and buzz that's it.


Idk how many serials you have watched but it's same story over and over again, time hasn't moved in tv world since ekta came with her serials. Same old shit server with shiny sets that's it.



thank you for responding!

Posted: 1 years ago
#6

I don't think my experience with TV serials is even relevant to this post. I am making a point based on what I have seen. We can debate this point and we can just agree to disagree. What is shown on ITV is not relevant to my post. Only what I have seen today is and my opinion on the same.


I made the point about expectation because you made the point about finding them hilarious. I think we can politely agree to disagree rather than mock each other's opinions.


Thank you!

Edited by sharadrocks - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
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I totally agree with what you have written. Its disgusting and pathetic.

Only thing is makers are not the only culprits here.

Makers are only for business here. Viewers are also equally culprit. ITV is continuously showing regressive content because there is an audience base for it. Be it TRP or Online. Sadly it reflects society mental make up.

Forget about TRP audience, I would say online audience across all the platform are simply waiting to bash Akshara for anything and everything. People start calling names even before the actual episode is aired. Today's pre cap she is seen as upset with Abhir for his behaviour and going to punish, but people already started with narrative of she prefers unborn baby over Abhir. What is this non sense? A mother can't react to a child if the child is talking non sense? Cant she punish him if he is wrong?

I am sure, almost every mother who had more than one pregnancy experienced this kind of jealous behaviour from the elder child in real life as well. Don't they react in such situation? Do you mean mothers don't punish their kids any more, In India specifically?

I saw some of the posts calling her not a good mother. Really?smiley11smiley11

Whatever mistakes Akshara has done, you will find other characters like Manjari, Arohi, Abhi, all have done similar mistakes and reactions. But bashing is mainly for Akshara, because she is not behaving the way they expect her to. They want her to erase her past 7 years and re start romancing their favourite character. We can say, audience does not like the concept of a woman moving on. They want her to come back to her ex and family at any cost.

Makers are just encasing on this buzz that is created by viewers. They think even negative publicity is a publicity. And its money for them


PS: I am not Abhimanyu fan or Abhinav fan or Akshara fan or any couple fan. But the narration which the makers are making, pathetic dialogues, execution and the kind of reactions in Social Media is really really bad.

Posted: 1 years ago
#8

I don't think you are getting my point.


Firstly, I dont watch the show even now so how does it matter who the next lead is, Roohi, Or X Or Y or this unborn child of Akshara. If the story is intriguing enough, I might consider.. Or else I won't. Rest I don't care who the leads are.. Be it character or actor..


Secondly, my point was with what was being portrayed. Manjari had no business in hell telling Akshara what to do. Funnily enough, the men on the show seem more keen on upholding the right of a woman to choose what she wants to do with her body than the women do.

Secondly, a woman moving on from her past has nothing to do with children. Surely you have read of Dimple who chose to live on in the memories of late Captain Vikram Batra even while she wasn't even married to him. Surely there are many such men and women out there. So moving on is about the individual and not about any kids they may bring along with them from a previous relationship.

Thirdly, this debate on blood connect is something that I find repugnant in the light of my own life experiences. So let us once again agree to disagree if you think otherwise.

Lastly whether this wedding should happen or not is for the couple to decide. The mother imposing conditions is ugly. Her concern for her son is justified but then, her son is the one whom she should be addressing those to and not Akshara. He is a grown ass man and not some child who needs handholding. Abhimanyu appears a well-adjusted sensible man going by today's episode and nothing like his mother who is delusional and regressive, her intentions notwithstanding. I am sorry but I find Manjari toxic and if you find her behaviour acceptable and justified, then let us once again agree to disagree.


Thank you for responding!

Edited by sharadrocks - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
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Totally agree with you.....manjari has been shown as a vile woman and a controlling mom....abhi is a grown up man and she did not have to step in to demand an abortion from akshu.....without even talking with abhi on this....

I m hoping the makers will take it in the direction where manjari will be shown wrong...and a positive message is given...

My hope comes from past experience in the show...where many assumed that akshu will still be shown in love with abhi....after what he has done and after having abhinav in ner life....but makers did not show that...instead they showed akshu happily move on with abhinav....

so I m hoping makers may use manjari's character to show how wrong her thinking /expectations are!!!

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

I think I have a right to my expectations and the right to express the same.


If you think the world hasn't moved on, then you speak from your own understanding and experiences. I have spoken based on mine.


Thank you for responding!

you are right..the world has indeed moved but there will always be a few people with regressive mindsets.. but they are the minority so they don’t count 😁👍.. in yrkkh itself..swarna has no blood relation to akshara, Arohi, kairav..because she was not their fathers biological mother…but she loves them.as her own. So the show is trying to show both sides of the story..but even in the show.’only manjeri is this regressive selfish woman. Others are not. Abhimanyu has accepted this baby wholeheartedly..

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