Akshara and her reasoning - Page 2

Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

I understand your frustration charu and I hope I didn't come accross as criticizing may be some posts you made ( that was not my indication) if it did forgive me.

I was just trying to look at this way that no matter what she does she will never be able to please both parties at once and,

if she turns rebellious, it can be a temporary solace but once Naitik and family patches up it will be back to square one.

Now I do agree that she should be more tactful.

Perhaps as you suggested say so , that I will make hot breakfast for you type.....

but I do not think thats Akshara's nature.

It comes to her slowly.

But she is learning.

and I still think she is doing a wonderful job!

Originally posted by: moonlight08

yeah.. i agree..

it all depends on individual's nature also.. akshara in not in-your-face kind n dat's why she never opens her mouth in front of gayitri.. rite from the starting she's portrayed lyk dis..

Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

I agree with the point that she needs to pay more attention to Naitik.

But before I humbly put my thoughts on that point,

I wanted to bring out one fact

That, a wife is someone who is in a relationship that is changeable, where as a mother can never be changed.

ditto 👏

We have to look at the relationship in a manner where we understand the status of it.

A wife can never compete with the husband's mother (at least in my POV)

100% right 👏

She will always be on the fire.. agay khada tho pechay khai.. No way is safe for her.

no way is safe for her 👏

If she sides with her husband (when there is a clash) then the husband will be happy that he got the support of his wife.

But once things are fine, then wouldn't the thought come to his mind that, his wife actually helped him in his rebellion against his own mother? (parents-family)

Who will be blamed then?

I think, that one has to be tactful when it comes to living in a joint family (or not- because the husband's mother [family] is still in the picture]

Akshara, here when she tries to please her husband, she somehow gets her in laws angered.

And when she tries the other way, Naitik gets upset.

Whom should she follow?

its not simple as follow the husband , why,

becuase as I mentioned before , once things get better,- the husband and inlaws when they patch up... one thing that remains in the mind of everyone is ,

the wife did not do anything to patch up the husband and the in laws. and will get blamed even by the husband for not even trying

absolutely right 👏

No one is going to blame the husband.

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So THats why its kind of amazing and sad for me when She gets blamed even by us Viewers.

Yes she is kind of getting idealistic , and whats wrong in that? I guess thats one way of looking at things right?

she's NOT getting blamed for this..😛

Is being so upright wrong.

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Now about paying attention to Naitik...

I believe that she does pay attention to him. As much as he needs but the nature of his is of such sort that, he always wants his way and he fails to look at the other person's perspective. I kind of blame his parents for giving him everything , at a simple gesture of his.

Now, he is failing to understand (sometimes he understands, but a little later , after the damage has been done) the responsibilities of Akshara and in that way he is not paying attention to her.

TO the home politics and kind of undermining her feelings and not looking closely at her home-role-play.

see, men never understand home politics..in short, aurton ko toh bhagwan bhi nahi samajh sakte, aadmi toh kahan reh gaye 😆 i'm a woman but still i'm saying this bec. i've seen this happening with me...if men get involved in these things then mahabharat pucci hai....kisne kisko taunt kiya, woh taunt hai bhi ya nahi, these things should be limited to womenfolk only bec. they understand this code language of taunts.. BTW should naitik not eat corn flakes bec. gayitri will be offended and blame will come on akshara? how will he know until akshara tells him?? and even if she tells him that ma will not like it, should he stop doing what he likes? he's the son of the house and he knows his family well..for him, this is not a taunt ke naitik ate cornflakes in breakfast....for akshara (or the viewers) this becomes a taunt..why?

All I ask is.. I think , and I will do this that, we have to give Akshara the benefit of doubt and to not blame her at the first chance we get.

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sorry if I offended anyone.

you didn't offend anyone..plz dun say this

Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

I was wondering , sometimes, the actions of Naitik bogles me.

During the batwara announcement, Akshara was wanting to again and again apologize and

it did not occur to Naitik that perhaps .. all he had to do was to apologize in a proper manner.

and to work on convincing his dadaji rather than accepting the proposal.

I mean yes I agree its good that he got separated etc. ( from the POV of Naksh betterment)

even there we see that he accepted the decision right away, without putting up a good fight ,

Sometimes he really confuses me.

I feel that , He does really want to get out of the entire family ( atleast out of their control and do what as he please) even though he says thats not his motives.

I watched the entire thing again and for the first time I saw the POV of dadaji and he was making sense that Naitik's defiance is not just something that comes as eruption to some situation rather its something that he wants. that is to not recognize the authority of Dadaji over his own thinking and way of handling things (everything).

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and Akshara I think is stuck.

It would be better if they separated so that she does not have the pressure of facing BM and G3 (and others) even though she does not have to answer them any more (or so technically- i see no difference )

again, here Naitik I feel has failed to clarify that if they were to be separated then just leave.

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dadaji said, that he is not 'khator dil' to kick them out. But I think there is more to that, and its the people. He is afraid of what people might say and that is why he didn't tell them to leave.

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Anywayzz just random thoughts. that the situation for Naitik is very diff. vs. Akshara's

For her, I still see her life being much the same ( answering authority wise) where as Naitik has a say now where he actually can make a decision and expect Akshara to abide in.

I feel bad for her...

She will end up NOT going to the pooja and there is a good possibility that later when things get better, she will be blamed for this, as to not being able to convince Naitik to join the pooja during the rift.

poor her! : (

Originally posted by: _charu_

Akshara IS assertive or not? i dun have an answer to this..bec. her character is highly inconsistent...she's assertive in front of Naitik, Baisa and her maayka folks but a few like gayitri & nandini enjoy special attention from akshara...i've not taken bma's name bec. akshara managed to have some hold on her after nandini's wedding..like she convinced her against giving any kind of dowry bec. mohit will be offended etc. etc......i wud have adored her if she was like that...naive, introvert, sabka bhala chahne wali perfect bahu..afterall who doesn't like idealism? but not in bits n pieces, whenever it's convinient for her !!! for example gopi of saathiya (not sure if u watch it) , she never replies back to anyone ..she's good with ppl. who hate her, taunt her, who love her, everyone ! her character is sketched that way..

there r a few problems which have no solution at all..which r 1) wife getting sandwiched b/w husband and MIL 2) MIL's attitude , i'm with her on this..infact i praised her a lot of times lately that her approach in tackling gayitri IS RIGHT ! i can't post the links here coz i dun remember which threads were those...

Originally posted by: Suchi-NivReniac

I understand your frustration charu and I hope I didn't come accross as criticizing may be some posts you made ( that was not my indication) if it did forgive me.

I was just trying to look at this way that no matter what she does she will never be able to please both parties at once and,

if she turns rebellious, it can be a temporary solace but once Naitik and family patches up it will be back to square one.

Now I do agree that she should be more tactful.

Perhaps as you suggested say so , that I will make hot breakfast for you type.....

but I do not think thats Akshara's nature.

It comes to her slowly.

But she is learning.

and I still think she is doing a wonderful job!

Originally posted by: moonlight08

di.. akshara voices her opinions in front of her mayke wale for two possible reasons..

1. because may be they do listen to other's opinions.. unlyk the singhanias.. jaha kisi aur ko kuch bolne ka mauka hi nhi milta.. naitik too lets akshara speak up..

2. or may be she can afford to take her mayka wala n naitik for granted but no her in-laws.. (gayitri in particular)

she spoke in front of baisa.. dat is a different issue altogether.. her parent's izzat was at stake.. uss point par to use bolna hi tha.. she was left with no other option..