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Posted: 8 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: -K.13-


very true - 11pm had human characters and near equal justification of all the characters/leads. sigh...kitne ache din the 😔

waise - i LOVE your name for shagun 😆


With the change of time slot the good days r also gone Krishy
Thanks re glad u loved the name 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: -K.13-


@bold - I never thought of it this way, but you are so right.

Raman at the start of YHM was "as bad as now" - remember the scene with Ishita getting rejected from adopting a child among many others...but you still saw he had dimension and a clearly shown thought process behind his actions.

Post-leap, there was no clearly shown thought process unless you tried to look/reason one out based off his old character sketch. Since 730, he's been all action no reasoning because I guess truly selling the dimension and thought process of a ML is not an easy way to get TRPs or something? Idk. It's a legit petty to see what the storytelling mechanism has reduced all characters to, especially Raman


Krishy ..post 7 30 pm yhm the theme of every track and esp of raman's character seems to be underlined by the line he seems to repeat like a parrot in every track ...'main sirf sabko dukh dena jaanta hoon...maine ishita ko sirf dukh diye, hai jabki usne mere parivaar ke liye itna kiya'.. the only times he isn't saying thus is when he yells (which is conveniently used by cvs to plan leaps and new tracks😆)...Funnily the same ishita who is trying so hard to change this character flaw of raman in thus track was totally okay with 'using ' this bad trait of his for that mock fight pre australia😆...cvs wonderful writing👏

And everyone else's opinion of raman post leap at least it ., raman has no control over his temper ., raman always makes mistakes ...raman doesn't value ishita/ishima...
The few people who may have had a different opinion are not on YHM planet anymore😆
11pm yhm had mihir vouching for the man behind the angry facade..and ishuta discovering that man. , now the man is synonymous only with that anger while the actual Raman is forgotten by all including ishita😕...convenience much - go figure😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: -K.13-


You are right that ishita is being reasonable but then imagine if your partner went behind your back, allowed your kids to insult you, and yada yada. It's irritating that this is shown as accepted because just as unacceptable yelling/disrespecting is, so is treating your partner as a show piece.

Te problem isn't what was shown, it was what wasn't shown. Ishita speaking up for herself is great, but Raman isn't the only cause of everything to me

In YHM - find me one track where Raman's emotions or turmoil is given any justice. it's tiring as a viewer. Time after time, you expect a bit of respect given to him and we get nothing. After 3 years of being treated like crap as a viewer who wanted balance, I can't relate to or celebrate this track. so yes, some wanted this but some wanted a 2 way conversation.



I Don't know which ones worse, personally emotional abuse sounds worse to me. Though hiding stuff from your partner is also unacceptable. I don;t know personally this show is nothing close to reality so its hard to tell😆.


Anyways I just wanted people to be happy, that we got something which shows ishitas emotions and i think that was dealt with appropriately. I think the way raman emotionally abuses is different from how Ishita lies.


Each time we are shown that Ishita does things behind his back and he abuses her and insults her. Shouldn't it be that he explains her?


I don't know its hard to make sense in my responses because show doesnt make sense.




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Posted: 8 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: bscorp13


Krishy ..post 7 30 pm yhm the theme of every track and esp of raman's character seems to be underlined by the line he seems to repeat like a parrot in every track ...'main sirf sabko dukh dena jaanta hoon...maine ishita ko sirf dukh diye, hai jabki usne mere parivaar ke liye itna kiya'.. the only times he isn't saying thus is when he yells (which is conveniently used by cvs to plan leaps and new tracks😆)...Funnily the same ishita who is trying so hard to change this character flaw of raman in thus track was totally okay with 'using ' this bad trait of his for that mock fight pre australia😆...cvs wonderful writing👏

And everyone else's opinion of raman post leap at least it ., raman has no control over his temper ., raman always makes mistakes ...raman doesn't value ishita/ishima...
The few people who may have had a different opinion are not on YHM planet anymore😆
11pm yhm had mihir vouching for the man behind the angry facade..and ishuta discovering that man. , now the man is synonymous only with that anger while the actual Raman is forgotten by all including ishita😕...convenience much - go figure😆


@bold Pb seeing cv wonderful writing I toh literally get teary eyed 😭😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Alu-



I Don't know which ones worse, personally emotional abuse sounds worse to me. Though hiding stuff from your partner is also unacceptable. I don;t know personally this show is nothing close to reality so its hard to tell😆.


Anyways I just wanted people to be happy, that we got something which shows ishitas emotions and i think that was dealt with appropriately. I think the way raman emotionally abuses is different from how Ishita lies.


Each time we are shown that Ishita does things behind his back and he abuses her and insults her. Shouldn't it be that he explains her?


I don't know its hard to make sense in my responses because show doesnt make sense.





@bold If I was in place of Ishita (Thank God I m not ) I would have left the first time he uttered this shit n would have never looked back but knowing this is a daily soap both leads r made to commit some kaand n a proper ending is never given
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Posted: 8 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: sarunholic_arhi


@bold If I was in place of Ishita (Thank God I m not ) I would have left the first time he uttered this shit n would have never looked back but knowing this is a daily soap both leads r made to commit some kaand n a proper ending is never given


Thank god yhm has nothing to do with reality😆 ...else each one of the kaands by both ishra are totally divorce worthy. .one wonders why are they together at all still after all both have done to each other. ..and their kids in the bargain. ..
Absolute crap...which is why one person taking the moral high ground in all thus is eve n more hilarious😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: Alu-



I Don't know which ones worse, personally emotional abuse sounds worse to me. Though hiding stuff from your partner is also unacceptable. I don;t know personally this show is nothing close to reality so its hard to tell😆.


Anyways I just wanted people to be happy, that we got something which shows ishitas emotions and i think that was dealt with appropriately. I think the way raman emotionally abuses is different from how Ishita lies.


Each time we are shown that Ishita does things behind his back and he abuses her and insults her. Shouldn't it be that he explains her?


I don't know its hard to make sense in my responses because show doesnt make sense.



I understand your motive but after trying to be happy that Ishita is speaking up - why should I be just happy for more of the same on the show?


And for me it's not emotional abuse that Ishita is experiencing but verbal abuse. Raman is getting a form of emotional abuse by being left out of discussions/trusting others over him.


And to me both are worse because I personally have experience being at the receiving end of a sharp tongue and I have been ignored/left out of important discussions. The sharp tongue, I personally give back to, but others I've been boxed out and have no way for fighting back into.


Verbal disrespect that Raman gives Ishita is very clear and open because that is the nature of it - everyone can see and here why its wrong.


But the action based disrespect is hidden and is also like a disease that slowly and silently spreads


No one here is saying Ishita is wrong in wanting to be respected when times get tough and it is a relief that she spoke up. But why can't people express that this isn't enough?

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Posted: 8 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: bscorp13


Thank god yhm has nothing to do with reality😆 ...else each one of the kaands by both ishra are totally divorce worthy. .one wonders why are they together at all still after all both have done to each other. ..and their kids in the bargain. ..
Absolute crap...which is why one person taking the moral high ground in all thus is eve n more hilarious😆


Pb there are some relatives of mine who r inspired by Bala's mother but I dont give a damn to them because I know they r not my worth 😆
Each kaands Ishra did are absolutely divorce worthy ..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: sarunholic_arhi

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@bold If I was in place of Ishita (Thank God I m not ) I would have left the first time he uttered this shit n would have never looked back but knowing this is a daily soap both leads r made to commit some kaand n a proper ending is never given


I would've given it back and walked out the very first time - back with dafa ho jao #1 - but this crap has been going on and slowly building and ignored since bring shagun from the dump track


there are real relationships where someone has serious anger issues that don't always end in divorce and i have a relative that's the case. the way my aunt deals with my uncle's temper is she just walks out and tells him to find her when he's cool. She'll tell him she won't tolerate his crap said in anger bc she deserves better. Over time he's calmed down on his own and gained insight.


Idk YHM is just pathetic though and all for the bbeauty tames beast story

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Posted: 8 years ago
Btw i may be in the minority but i think emotional abuse is a broad term ..
A man abusing a woman calling her unworthy of bring a mother us as much emotional abuse a as woman calling her husband a bad father and a bad influence on his kids in front of the kids themselves and the whole family. ..

Both need to be dealt with the same importance , empathy and vigor if one wants genuinely to resolve issues and change the relationship for the better...

I do understand that motherhood is ishita's achilkes heel and raman can't keep hurting her saying that - but lack of trust, betrayal and fear of losing his kids is raman's weakness...- ishita can't keep hurting him 'doing' those things again too by trusting outsiders. .making a tamaasha of their marriage to unknown people , trusting mani over raman, and then using the kids as pawns ...

Both are emotional abuse and the pain is probably equally severe...only one gets addressed and gets a lot of lip service whike the other pain is shown to us but never gets a acknowledgement by anyone other than the man living it...

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