Bhallaji parents need to be fair too *Combined reply pg 9*

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Nidoo

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Hi Gan,

Been a fan of your collages for a very long time 👏 😊 Waiting for today's edits too!

Coming to the episode, well shot and brilliantly portrayed. It was crisp and to the point, where one situation seamlessly led to another, and nothing was dragged more than it ought to have been. Well, that's one of the beauties of this show. Less OTT and more realistic portrayals (which the CVs sometimes forget about 😆😆)

All actors were completely in element, true to their character, and as a viewer, one could relate to all of them at some level.

Bhalla Ji: True, he's been acting more weird off-late, but from where I see the situation, his ego has been brutally hurt because of his son's words, and so he has started taking things to heart. Sometimes, in these situations, it is difficult to see beyond the horizon of your own sphere of thoughts, which in this case, seem to revolve around the fact that Raman reacts violently, both with words & actions, without caring for his loved ones. He felt that Raman must have done the same, and sided with Sarika. What is wrong with the whole situation is that just yesterday, he didn't say anything in support of Ishita when Romi kept on insulting her. Was not a son disrespecting a DIL yesterday, and the eldest one at that? He definitely was hurt and did not want IshRa & the kids to leave, but again, his ego prevented him from stopping them. I wish he hadn't gotten up & left before IshRa could go, he should have seen them crossing the threshold.

Romi: Again, ego is the culprit here. We've all seen how he can be such a brat when he wants to. His behavior is similar here, the only difference being things have been escalated at a much higher level now. He too, didn't want IshRa to leave, but he felt that his wife had been insulted, similar to the feeling that Raman had yesterday, only with less intensity 😛

Sarika: It looked like she didn't intend to slap Adi, but she did, on a whim, or unintentionally. That bit wasn't clear to me. She is a good kid, who has been wronged multiple times in the past, and so is bound to have trust issues as well as stay on the edge for her own future & security. Hence, she reacted in such a way yesterday, and her prejudice carried forward today, when she started relating stuff from the past, blaming Raman for things that he had done long ago. But then when they were leaving, the li'l decency in her came back, and she wanted Romi to stop them. Had she been evil, she would never have admitted her mistake in slapping Adi, but she did. I think once MUs clear, she'll come out as a stronger member of the family.

Simmi: My heart went out to her. She was completely bewildered, as well as broken. She didn't know what happened and why did it escalate it so quickly, and before she knew, her bhai & bhabhi were leaving the house with kids. Her sense prevailed and she reached out to Ishita, because she knew only Ishita can console Raman. Subtly portrayed, but well done! 👏

Mr. Iyer: He knew nothing would calm Raman down, and he might not take staying at his in-laws very well. Hence he didn't push him, beyond the one night. Loved it when he told him to move to some other place whenever he feels like. Shows how much he understands his SIL! 👏👏

Neelu: Even she could sense the storm that has passed though the homely walls of that place. Her reminiscing good times was very well done 👏

Adi-Ruhi: The kids have come so far, especially Adi. The way he cried inconsolably, the way he begged Raman to stay, the way he apologised. He's so much in love with his entire joint family. He missed all this for 6 years, and now doesn't want to let go - Awww 😭 And Ruhi, silent tears that said it all. No more words needed 😭

IshRa: How can one not feel for them? 😭😭 The conversation in the room, the coming out of the house together holding their kids hands, the hug later on 😭😭 They're each other's anchors, and I'm so glad that they're becoming emotionally strong and coming closer than ever with their soul-baring 👏👏

AIR (Adi-Ishita-Ruhi-Raman): When they were walking out as a family, with each kids hands held by one parent, all four holding a bag, one could really feel that a set of parents is taking their kids. The chemistry between the four was tangible, and that is why my heart went out to them! 😭😭

Favorite moments of the episode:

Neelu's flashback: Goes on to simply show how she's no less than any family member. The way she notices the silence and the darkness, and asks herself as to what went wrong. A very subtle, yet a strong scene in my opinion.
Appa & Simmi's silent nod: When Appa takes IshRa & the kids in, he silently nods to Simmi, who then seems a li'l relieved. Again subtlety at its best 👏

Not mentioning about the IshRa scene, well, because needless to say, it is one of the memorable ones. I just wish he had held on to her longer, and broken down, before trying to collect himself so quickly, or just hugged her from the waist after he sat down. Would have been a super amazing to watch!

(This went on wayyy longer than I expected! 😆 In case you're wondering who am I, well I'm not gonna hijack your thread, you can refer here 😳)

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sunitas123

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Hi Gan, awaiting collages.

Bhallaji was actually accusing Raman that the minute he enters the house, the peace is shattered! That really hurt him.

Bhallaji's relationship with Raman was never that great and was patched up after Ishita came in their lives. But, it seems as if Bhallaji thinks he can treat Raman unfairly and get away with it. And more than a son, it appears as though Raman was his financial and physical support for his budhapa...

And he was not even willing to listen to Raman? And the shameless Romi and Sarika - those two deserve each other. What was Sarika getting by fanning the flames or creating issues out of nothing?

just could not understand Bhallaji- he wanted Raman to respect him, no matter what. he also wanted Raman to control his temper against Rinki. However Romi, Sarika, Rinki are free to insult accuse shout at ishita, Raman, Mihir, Bala???? What kind of a man / father/ father-in-law is he? It is very clear that though he seems affected by Raman raising his voice, it is apparent that the company transfer to Ishita has made his lose faith in Raman - hence he cant stand anyone else being yelled at, but it is a free for all as far as Raman and Ishita are concerned!😡

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Balasri

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Posted: 10 years ago

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I jst want to give a tight slap to rinky what d hell does she think about her??? D seed of doubt was planted only because of her

Coming to Sarika she also knows dat when raman offered her money itz for her own good because Romi is not at all ready to accept her bt today when she forgave Romi d one who cheated her how can she blame raman dat you don't want me too come to ur house?? Ishita and raman are the ones who went to her home before Romi doesn't she remember dat?? Firstly she blamed raman bt when dey r leaving home she told dat itz her mistake wat was dat?? Can't she stop Romi while he is talking to raman in a rude way???

Coming to bhalla ji when Sarika is passing rude comments to raman is stood silent when Romi was defending his wife he stood silent bt when raman started to keep his point of view he scolded raman. In rinky's case we can understand his reaction because he only listened to half convo but today he heard all the things instead of supporting raman he scolded him this is unfair everybody in bhalla house take raman and ishita for granted

I am with raman in his decision to leave d house y to live in a place where der is no respect after doing everything for them???

Simmi is d poor soul who is struck in all dis

I saw rinky instance post with ashok with a caption wicked I think something big is going to come

I loved ishita today she was with raman even if she doesn't like his decision and also she was concerned for d family she asked Neelu to tell simmi

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Collages updated... Will updates my thoughts of the entire episode in a bit 😳

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fullhouse

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Posted: 10 years ago

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I missed one week of YMH and I guess I misssed a blockbuster week.. But unlike others (I am not pointing anyone) I don't see the matter with a protagonist point of view...When family feuds happen, one person cannot be blamed.. I 'll blame everyone including Raman

I guess its easy to point out why Rinki, Romi, sarika etc etc are at fault.. I'll share my POV of why Raman too is at fault

The reason why Bhallaji is miffed with raman is the way Raman handles the situation...In the episode when Rinki was accusing Raman, he dared to say get out to Rinki in front of Bhallaji..Just because Raman is short tempered in nature he cannot be excused every time... It doesn't matter how much he supports the family, he needs to learn to be humble in front of his parents... In that episode Bhallaji clearly mentioned that if Rinki is having any problem with Ishita, then they should solve it.. raman should not interfere between them just because he is her husband...But Raman defied straightway and that is simply not done..

Today when Sarika incident happened, Bhallaji's only point was that Raman should not raise his voice against Sarika..and it is a valid argument because then Sarika won't be able to speak

But yes I would agree too that at this point every one is misunderstanding Raman's intentions but I am supporting Bhallaji because as he just wants Raman to lower down his temper when he is talking to someone younger.. And Raman sometimes becomes actually pathetic in the way he deals with his younger sisters.."Muh tod doonga, taange tod doonga" very dehati

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Wings-of-Fire

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Posted: 10 years ago

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All I'm gonna say about tonight's episode is that, I know at the end of this track, they'll probably go back to Bhalla house and everything will be like it was before but I'll never look at the Bhallas as I did before. They've run out of the sympathy forgiveness, the family advantages and every other form of free passes.

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: fullhouse
I missed one week of YMH and I guess I misssed a blockbuster week.. But unlike others (I am not pointing anyone) I don't see the matter with a protagonist point of view...When family feuds happen, one person cannot be blamed.. I 'll blame everyone including Raman

I guess its easy to point out why Rinki, Romi, sarika etc etc are at fault.. I'll share my POV of why Raman too is at fault

The reason why Bhallaji is miffed with raman is the way Raman handles the situation...In the episode when Rinki was accusing Raman, he dared to say get out to Rinki in front of Bhallaji..Just because Raman is short tempered in nature he cannot be excused every time... It doesn't matter how much he supports the family, he needs to learn to be humble in front of his parents... In that episode Bhallaji clearly mentioned that if Rinki is having any problem with Ishita, then they should solve it.. raman should not interfere between them just because he is her husband...But Raman defied straightway and that is simply not done..

Today when Sarika incident happened, Bhallaji's only point was that Raman should not raise his voice against Sarika..and it is a valid argument because then Sarika won't be able to speak

But yes I would agree too that at this point every one is misunderstanding Raman's intentions but I am supporting Bhallaji because as he just wants Raman to lower down his temper when he is talking to someone younger.. And Raman sometimes becomes actually pathetic in the way he deals with his younger sisters.."Muh tod doonga, taange tod doonga" very dehati

Ok fair point...then my question to you is why was Bhalla ji quiet when Romi was abusing Raman, Ishita, Mihir and Bala...where was his fairness there. If Raman was wrong of being hot headed, he was ready to apologize and went to do so the very next day...Did Bhalla ji give him the chance.?

Yes according to Bhallaji the matter was between Rinki and Ishita...but then he didnt hear the whole thing right? Why was Rinki accusing Ishita? It was because of Raman's decision to give power of attorney to Ishita..It was not really a matter between Ishita and Rinky but really Rinky accusing Ishita over a matter that Raman did.

So let's be fair...If Raman shouting at Sarika and Rinki was wrong...how does Romi get away with not only screaming but abusing and maligning all the people who are much older to him in age, and respect? If Bhallaji had said something to stop Romi, I would have understood...

you feel Bhallaji was right, in my eyes he was not because he was not consistent..hence I tagged him as unfair.

p.s . I agree with you Raman needs to watch his mouth...but his family seems to have been used to his mouth...why the allergy all of a sudden..that's the question

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sunitas123

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: fullhouse
I missed one week of YMH and I guess I misssed a blockbuster week.. But unlike others (I am not pointing anyone) I don't see the matter with a protagonist point of view...When family feuds happen, one person cannot be blamed.. I 'll blame everyone including Raman

I guess its easy to point out why Rinki, Romi, sarika etc etc are at fault.. I'll share my POV of why Raman too is at fault

The reason why Bhallaji is miffed with raman is the way Raman handles the situation...In the episode when Rinki was accusing Raman, he dared to say get out to Rinki in front of Bhallaji..Just because Raman is short tempered in nature he cannot be excused every time... It doesn't matter how much he supports the family, he needs to learn to be humble in front of his parents... In that episode Bhallaji clearly mentioned that if Rinki is having any problem with Ishita, then they should solve it.. raman should not interfere between them just because he is her husband...But Raman defied straightway and that is simply not done..

Today when Sarika incident happened, Bhallaji's only point was that Raman should not raise his voice against Sarika..and it is a valid argument because then Sarika won't be able to speak

But yes I would agree too that at this point every one is misunderstanding Raman's intentions but I am supporting Bhallaji because as he just wants Raman to lower down his temper when he is talking to someone younger.. And Raman sometimes becomes actually pathetic in the way he deals with his younger sisters.."Muh tod doonga, taange tod doonga" very dehati

Did you miss yesterday's episode? Or all the times Raman used to yell at ishita and say Get out etc.? Bhallaji never ever said a word to Raman then. Ok he raised his voice against his father, but did the father care to find out what his daughter was saying? Here too we can give him benefit of doubt. But what about yesterday? Romi was yelling and insulting ishita, then Raman, Mihir and even Bala, Bhallaji did not get annoyed with Romi just asked them to go to their rooms. Today again he heard Raman yelling, but he was supporting Sarika and so was Romi - that is not done...

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-Anku-

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Gan-

Ok fair point...then my question to you is why was Bhalla ji quiet when Romi was abusing Raman, Ishita, Mihir and Bala...where was his fairness there. If Raman was wrong of being hot headed, he was ready to apologize and went to do so the very next day...Did Bhalla ji give him the chance.?

Yes according to Bhallaji the matter was between Rinki and Ishita...but then he didnt hear the whole thing right? Why was Rinki accusing Ishita? It was because of Raman's decision to give power of attorney to Ishita..It was not really a matter between Ishita and Rinky but really Rinky accusing Ishita over a matter that Raman did.

So let's be fair...If Raman shouting at Sarika and Rinki was wrong...how does Romi get away with not only screaming but abusing and maligning all the people who are much older to him in age, and respect? If Bhallaji had said something to stop Romi, I would have understood...

you feel Bhallaji was right, in my eyes he was not because he was not consistent..hence I tagged him as unfair.

p.s . I agree with you Raman needs to watch his mouth...but his family seems to have been used to his mouth...why the allergy all of a sudden..that's the question

Agreed. I wanted to quote the post, but since you have will just add here.

Mr Bhalla hasn't been fair. If Raman is wrong in raising his voice or saying certain words. Then why isn't Rinki/Romi wrong? Raman did not start this, his siblings did.

I mean what would it take Rinki or Romi to come and talk calmly and raise questions? Yes they have every right to want answers from their elder brother. But isn't there a way to do that.

That day Rinki barged in the house and just straight away accused Ishita left right and center. Yesterday Romi did the same. So as a husbanb should Raman stand on the sidelines and let his siblings accuse his wife for something she hasn't done and for the decisions he has made?

Raman was ready to make amends. He even took Rinki's anger as her childishness and let go. His reactions were counter reactions and not the root cause of the issue.

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-K.13-

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Gan-
I was so upset after the episode I had to take a break...it's very deja vu for me ..growing up in a joint family and then witnessing it fall apart because of one person planting some doubt which lead to the family broken down...It's not pleasant and like they showed ...at the end no body other than the person who created the daraar sleeps in peace.

I did not understand what was Sarika trying to achieve there, first she accused Raman of insulting her because according to her, he didn't want her there and then when they were leaving she was all pleading with Romi to not let Raman leave...I'm sorry that felt a bit odd.

And till yesterday it was Raman who was Ishita's pillar of support...today she understood that while he's acting tough in front of others, he was devastated in the inside and gave him the support first silently by leaving the house, though reluctantly and then giving him the comfort of embrace and a listening ear that he needed. The mutual love and the solid support they have been to each other during this time is the silver lining of this heart breaking track. This is another flavor of love...mohabbat.

Notes:
Mihir was awesome again today...the guilt in his eyes when he noticed Raman has heard Rinki's hurtful words, as he knew how dear the siblings are to Raman's heart...and he tried to aplogize on Rinki's behalf too. I have a feeling some khichdi will happen about that house he talked about
Loved Neelu's FB part...it's so true to life as someone who has been with the Bhallas for so long, she is part of the family and to see everyone separate like that was sad for her too. Nice touch by the CVs
I don't know what awaits us next week...but this whole week was a testament of what the CVs truly can produce if they want to. Good solid week of meaningful writing, execution and acting. Kudos to the whole team

@bold - this is why I'm so hesitant to watch the entire episode from this week (vs the small chunks I've saw last night) just yet. I know I'm going to be too emotional seeing the entire 22 minutes. I've never lived in a joint family, but I've seen what money/pride/life can do to families even if they all don't live together. It's the harsh reality of the world. I love this track and want them to show the strength of a family despite such road bumps because we live in an age (especially here in America) where the value & meaning of family is changing. So often I see people give up easily or place their needs above their families, and that leads to broken homes. However, this track also brings into play the idea of: When is it too much? Is there a limit to the sacrifices people can make for the sake of family?

Idk...it's all just so so really and raw. This type of execution touches the hearts of viewers no matter the age or background.

@Purple - I think Sarika is confused too. Since coming into the show, we have seen how little the world has valued her. From Param to Mrs. Bhalla & Romi...she has been hurt a lot and is now apparently always on the defensive. I don't know what the future holds for her character but there is scope to keep her real.

@Blue - I seriously love that they give Neelu such a scene because of all the people to be objective right now...it's her. She's seen the good & bad of the Bhalla family. She knows the strength they are capable of as a family and also the weaknesses of each individual. Including her scene was truly a brilliant move by the CVs.

As for Ishita & Raman...despite all the hurt I feel, there is so much joy in seeing the relationship between the two. When one hurts, the other comforts & vice versa. That's what a real relationship is, no? I'm not in one...but even on a real level, we want someone to share our happiness & grief with. To support us but also try to show us a different perspective if needed. ❤️

Edited by -K.13- - 10 years ago