Bhallaji parents need to be fair too *Combined reply pg 9*

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Gan-
This scene broke my heart how Raman, Ishita and kids were looking at Papaji to stop them from leaving 😭.. Such a poignant scene

So I watched this scene & even a Harry Potter marathon couldn't help me shake the feels (Plus stupid ABC Family skipped the 4th movie which made me 😒 ).

The capture of Adi, Raman, & Bhallaji speaks to me on so many levels. Raman wanted Adi to be brought up in a loving environment, but now he feels his home is no longer hospitable. His son feels his behavior was the catalyst for them moving out & is openly expressing grief, while Raman silently hopes Bhallaji asks him to stay back. Bhallaji feels he can no longer rely on Raman & to some degree gives the message it should be Raman who swallows his pride to stay back. Raman is walking out to salvage some self respect & in his mind bring peace to the house - is he fully wrong to walk away? Children should take care of their parents in old age, but at what cost?

For Adi's POV - he is seeing a father turn his back on his son...what kind of message does it give this budding young man?

I love the individual shots of Ishita, the kids, Simmi, & Raman (bottom R)...the sense of hurt & helplessness is so visible.

While the Bhalla children have lived through a lot, this is the first time they are experience a major family strife. To see your father break down to such a degree is truly something kids can't shake. As someone who saw family strife growing up for a small part of her life, I know that these feelings don't ever really leave the kids. Even when things are settled down, children cannot shake that feeling they have when adults they love & trust fued.

PS sorry for spamming today...been in bed all day & it is super boring...

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Boo2014

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Posted: 10 years ago

#42

Lovely collages and a fantastic thread, It is such a good read as we are able to experience and see things in different perspectives.

There has been too much ego and hypocrisy by Rinki, Romi and Bhallaji.

I think Mr Bhalla could have resolved a lot of issues but for some unknown reason he from the Rinki incident he has been unreasonable in all matters concerning Ishra. It will be interesting to see but it just doesn't feel like Mr Bhalla is reacting in this manner because Raman was talking about it being his house and telling Rinki to leave. Mr Bhallah is being unfairly critical of Ishra, but mainly Raman.

If the initial Rinki confrontation was not fully witnessed by Mr Bhallah (he certainly heard Rinki call Ishita 'Iss aurat' as it was then he stopped Raman from hitting Rinki) he was present for the whole Romi argument. Mr Bhallah allowed Romi to raise his voice, insult his Damad and Bala who were at the house as guests. Not once did he reprimand Romi but choose to remain quite. Under such circumstances what does Raman do, he takes on the role of a father figure and try and 'discipline' his siblings as his own father is standing mute whilst Romi is throwing insults at his elders.

Having watched YHM from the beginning Raman has always seen himself as a second father figure to his siblings and has been very active in reprimanding them when he sees them stepping out of line or doing wrong; Simmi during the Param fiasco and Romi with the exam papers, SMS and Sarika pregnancy. During these occasions Mr Bhalla has never really intervened when Raman is in full anger mode shouting and slapping the bejesus out of whoever was at the end of his wrath. Bhallahji allowed Raman to deal with things as he saw fit. So what has happened now? Why is Bhallahji so vocal against Raman all of a sudden?

I agree, Raman had no choice but to leave. It is sad to see the pain he is going through but i hope as do many others, that this brings Ishra even closer and makes then realise that they most prioritise their relationship and stop continuously putting it on the back burner.

I hope i have made some sense. Apologises in advance for anything that is incoherent, its 3am where I am and I need to sleep.

Edited by Boo2014 - 10 years ago

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mreshma

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Posted: 10 years ago

#43

Beautiful collages...and the episode,heart wrenching...

Bhallaji, as an aged father, getting hurt with his son raising voice against him n unable to forget or overcome it easily is acceptable, even though him ignoring his son ready to apologize is not...He also felt that it was a fault in his upbringing...But yesterday his actions cannot be justified...He had a prejudiced view of the situation that whatever the matter be the cause will be Raman...He just said it in Raman's face that he shouldn't utter a word n especially against the DIL of the house...These words from him would have sounded good if he said the same to his son Romi too the very night before, when he just barged in and uninterruptedly n literally threw dirt on his elder DIL n SIL(Mihir)...the only thing he did at that moment was ask Raman n Romi to retire to their rooms...why wasn't Bhallaji worried with Romi's upbringing when he spewed venom, though not against him, but his elder brother(who may be atleast 10 yrs older to him), his bhabhi n his BIL......

Sarika's insecurities about life is understandable...but yesterday her behaviour was wrong...don't know if anyone noticed, she gave an irritated look to Adi,I think, when she was placing the baby on the cradle...Later she reprimanded him for an accidental mistake from him and he got unintentionally hit by his chachi...Sarika did not acknowledge it when Raman n Romi stepped in but with IshRa n kids leaving the house, she felt there r chances that she will be blamed for it, so she admitted her unintentional mistake...

Mihir is still going unfazed n strong in his love n respect for his Bhai👏...

Rinky taking steps day by day to be christened a perfect vamp...

Raman's decision to leave the house is not 100% right because that is not a solution but with the amount of hurt n insult he is facing he cannot be blamed...He is feeling completely alienated by his father n why cannot he think so, bcoz Bhallaji, while staying in the same house, out of hurt n anger showed it that he can do so by even bringing separate grocery n veggies for his family excluding IshRa n kids,...My heart went out to him in the last scene😭...N Ishita after initially trying to pacify him just decided to obey after seeing the extent of his pain...

The kids got into the mess badly...

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vidya.anand

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Posted: 10 years ago

#44

Beautiful collages Gan!

and lovely posts from all regarding their take on the present track.

Mihir stands out unique and he truly proves that he the true Hanuman and Laxman of Ram and Sita!

No Romi can take his place. Blood is thicker than water proves wrong here and I really loved how they brought this out beautifully.

All the true colors of siblings brought out. Simmi had completed her share of negativity some time back and now she has learnt her lesson and realized Raman and Ishita's worth.

Rinki and Romi's changes with the slightest misunderstanding about their brother and bhabi is fine but them spewing such venom against them is so disturbing.

Words once spoken can never be taken back. its like an arrow from a bow. Yes Raman flares up and speaks out things which can hurt but both his siblings know him already and also know that its all a moment's outburst but in his heart, he always loves and protects them. Hasnt he given numerous proofs for his selfless love for his family?

Anyways, a mere apology when the air clears cant patch them up like before. Its like broken glass which can be stuck with a glue but the cracks remain. Serial mein hoga shaayad but in reality, Romi, Rinki and even Sarika have spoken much more than required and hurt their gem like bhai and bhabi that nothing can become like before. In fact, I want Ishra and kids to live separately for a while so that distance makes the bond deeper and also all realize their worth. Distance makes heart fonder and its true too!

Every track some character is butchered and in this track, they have butchered Mr Bhalla totally. He was the most sane, level headed character in the story. he knew and understood his son so much. And now all of a sudden, he acts as if he doesnt know Raman and the worst is that he is acting blind, dumb and deaf to Romi, Sarika and Rinki's venom. He only seems to hear what Raman is saying and that too not allowing him to speak fully.

Anxiously waiting for the track to end. I know many like this track as its very real and close to life but for me its utmost disturbing. Itna reality and such family fights, breaking of bonds scares me...disturbs and tortures my mind. So I hope CVs give a good closure of all this soon!

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-Anku-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: Boo2014
Lovely collages and a fantastic thread, It is such a good read as we are able to experience and see things in different perspectives.
There has been too much ego and hypocrisy by Rinki, Romi and Bhallaji.
I think Mr Bhalla could have resolved a lot of issues but for some unknown reason he from the Rinki incident he has been unreasonable in all matters concerning Ishra. It will be interesting to see but it just doesn't feel like Mr Bhalla is reacting in this manner because Raman was talking about it being his house and telling Rinki to leave. Mr Bhallah is being unfairly critical of Ishra, but mainly Raman.

If the initial Rinki confrontation was not fully witnessed by Mr Bhallah (he certainly heard Rinki call Ishita 'Iss aurat' as it was then he stopped Raman from hitting Rinki) he was present for the whole Romi argument. Mr Bhallah allowed Romi to raise his voice, insult his Damad and Bala who were at the house as guests. Not once did he reprimand Romi but choose to remain quite. Under such circumstances what does Raman do, he takes on the role of a father figure and try and 'discipline' his siblings as his own father is standing mute whilst Romi is throwing insults at his elders.

Having watched YHM from the beginning Raman has always seen himself as a second father figure to his siblings and has been very active in reprimanding them when he sees them stepping out of line or doing wrong; Simmi during the Param fiasco and Romi with the exam papers, SMS and Sarika pregnancy. During these occasions Mr Bhalla has never really intervened when Raman is in full anger mode shouting and slapping the bejesus out of whoever was at the end of his wrath. Bhallahji allowed Raman to deal with things as he saw fit. So what has happened now? Why is Bhallahji so vocal against Raman all of a sudden?

I agree, Raman had no choice but to leave. It is sad to see the pain he is going through but i hope as do many others, that this brings Ishra even closer and makes then realise that they most prioritise their relationship and stop continuously putting it on the back burner.

I hope i have made some sense. Apologises in advance for anything that is incoherent, its 3am where I am and I need to sleep.

@Bold - Read this from my phone in the morning and wanted to tell you how much I agree with this.

All along in the last one year. Mr Bhalla has always been a mute figure when situations arose at home. When Romi made mistake after mistake or when Simmi took wrong decisions and misunderstood all and sundry. He never showed any authority. He let Raman and then even Ishita take all decisions and even reprimand their younger siblings when they flawed.

Slowly and gradually as responsibilities of his siblings grew on him, Raman because a father figure to them. Maybe they don't see it that way anymore. But in Raman's mind he did become their father. He always calls each one of them BETA. And when he saw his father take no stand, he took it on himself to show them the right way, to help them out of their mess and to make their life better. So why now does Mr Bhalla suddenly find fault with this? If he always had a problem with his behaviour or habit he should have reprimanded him then. By staying quiet you have made him the siblings father. And thus the man of the house. So why won't he raise his voice if they're saying and doing wrong? 😕

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sunitas123

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Posted: 10 years ago

#46

Gan, just read your update! Indeed an emotional upheaval for Raman and the Bhallas too. The Bhallas all seem to have so much ego for nothing. Mr Bhalla was repenting that his budhape ka sahara is gone, he is in no way bothered about Raman.

Sarika was trying to create a rift too and fan the flames that Romi had lit the day before. However when she saw Raman leaving the house, she immly thought who would pay for the house and everything else and hence she was worried. Sarika too has been shown to be shallow and selfish.

As per spoilers Param is asking Raman for 15 crores or else he will file for Ananya custody- looks like for extra drama all logic will be lost. Who will give custody to a guy who has been to prison on attempted rape? And also, it seems Toshiji is asking Raman to pay the EMI for Rinki's new flat😲

Mr. Bhalla seems to be feeling all of a sudden that Raman's anger issues r due to the fact that he thinks he feeds everyone and hence can get away with anything. However, going by that logic, what gives Romi the right to shout at Ishita, Raman, etc.? Since he is not feeding anyone, his anger is justified? LOL for Bhallaji's logic😆😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Update page 1

Gan awesome collages

Aru awesome gifs

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Aani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#48

We have always seen YHM has taken parenting as a topic in various ways - the nature versus nurture angle has been explored with Ruhi and Adi individually. We have seen a mother brainwash her son, abandon her daughter, leave her children while they are in danger to save herself versus a woman who though not biologically related saved these children time and again and is now raising them in the best way possible even if she makes mistakes like installing cams to monitor her son...but parenting doesnt end when the kids grow up and neither do the bonds become any less strong with time, rather they deepen.

Here they are once again tackling parenting IMO, only not of children but kids who have grown-up and have kids of their own - namely having an adult son and father be in a conflict over misunderstandings that are stemming due to the lack of communication between the duo and it is amazing as per me. We know that if Bhallaji had heard Raman both the times he would have known his son did no wrong but he chose to lash out rather than listen, how wonderfully they portrayed that lack of communication with your children whether they are 13 or 30 can never be a good thing. Just because they have crossed a certain age doesnt mean you stop listening to them or allowing them a chance to speak, no parent should do that as no parent should discriminate between his children just because they see them quarreling. What we hear and see may often deceive us and basing your judgement on half a story can never be right.

This is parenting again - just of a different kind. They are subtly once again touching the subject of parents being wrong but in another way. Its said with age comes wisdom, but age alone nor position can make you right. You can err at any time any age. We expect the younger ones to say sorry when sometimes they quarrel with those older to them, instilling the value of respecting those older is not a wrong thing...but can it be just declared someone is right just because they are older and presumably wiser?

I would like to quote these lines from the classic to rest my case,

"I do not think, sir, you have any right to command me, merely because you are older than I, or because you have seen more of the world than I have; your claim to superiority depends on the use you have made of your time and experience."

Charlotte Bront, Jane Eyre

Now with Raman being asked by his mother to not contribute, it would make the others responsible for the expenses of the home. When they would realise how hard it is to run a home they would know what Raman has to do for them and has been doing for so long now, the power and position they detest and assume makes their brother an egostitical maniac comes with responsibilities which they never had to fulfill. Stepping into his shoes now Romi will know how hard it is to fill his brother' shoes and just by saying I can take care of my family a man cant do it by a miracle. It takes a lot of work and if his brother has never allowed them to feel the brunt of things the least they can do is respect him and his wife in return.

Also Mr. Bhalla would know how he was wrong in assuming the worst of his child. Parents always obstricize the older siblings whenever there are fights even as kids between them by saying you are the older one and should be mature and responsible, reasonable...well being older shouldnt mean you take shit quietly and if the older sibling despite being all that is expected of him is insulted fights for his honor and that of his wife' its the duty of the parents to stand by him rather than humiliate him in front of his juniors without even knowing what the matter was.

Romi and Sarika have been repeating the words - our family is you, me and our son nowadays, well when they would have to pay now and I assume will back out of their responsibilities citing xyz reason Bhallaji too would see the difference between his sons and also DIL', the woman he unfairly illtreated these days. While Ishita has never backed out of her duties in any role nor stopped Raman from looking after his parents or siblings, would Sarika be able to do the same? Even though they both earn, its not a huge amount and I am sure they would develop cold feet when the time to pay comes because of course they would be thinking about 'their little family' and it would be an eye-opener for Mr. Bhalla. The DIL he chose to fight for wont stand by him while the one he saw being insulted left, right and center by not one but two of his children and stood by mute never made her husband walk out on his duties towards his family.

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Aani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#49

Forgot to mention beautiful collages and quotes Gan.

Maya, Aru, Avni, Anu, Anku, Krishy, Becky, Kavya, Nidoo, Sunita, Roshnee, Neha, Boo, Vidya lovely posts all you girls.

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Maya

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: EkPaheli
Forgot to mention beautiful collages and quotes Gan.

Maya, Aru, Avni, Anu, Anku, Krishy, Becky, Kavya, Nidoo, Sunita, Roshnee, Neha, Boo, Vidya lovely posts all you girls.

Thanks Aani

I thought this track they are butchering Mr. Bhallaji character but your take on the whole parenting things put the situation in a new perspective for me

Edited by mayasundar - 10 years ago