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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishy13


Maaloo...this is BEAUTIFUL! I feel I've been pushed to the point of looking at the overall show more scientifically and only allow myself to get caught in the emotional moments now. But you have done a wonderful job of encapsulating the emotional poweress of the show.

I read somewhere that the CVs didn't even try to use old school YHM type story-telling once the time slot change happened and I kind of agree. The creators did not even allow their original product to be shown to the masses before experimenting, which is sad.

Thank you for this post because it's remotivating! 🤗


Krishy.. True that.. and that is sad.. the makers didn't want to risk taking a chance with their product or didnt believe in their product enough, and ended up making it like every other one in the market, but by doing so, they have totally missed their niche audience!!

And you know what bugs me the most? Each and every track has the potential which means that there is someone out there thinking right or has really understood the need of the hour, has understood what would capture the attention of the audience and what is a viable topic. But they botch it up royally in execution. Raman and Ishita could have talked about Adi's depressing/suicidal thoughts.. may be there was a less cheesier way to deal with it than what is shown..
And this is something we all have been crying hoarse about in so many posts.. but somehow its falling to deaf ears.. Is it over-confidence on the part of the CVs about their product? To re-evaluate it and make it a better or unique one rather than going through the cliched route?
I wonder.. 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
Sach mei Gan Di.. I miss his witty one-liners! I used to go crazy on hearing those! Pata nahi ab kab sunne ko milega!
RKB in remorse mood 24/7 , making mistakes but never correcting them and no progress too!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It's not just RKB but everyone. No one seems to be in character these days. I used to love Bala and Ishita's convos, Raman and Shravu's, Toshiji and Amma's bickering, the feisty Mihika..
None of them had any substantial role in the recent times
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: appuss

Thanks gan for making this post.

It is sad that our feedback is never welcomed.
CVs never realize it is becoz of our love that we rant... but they always take it as obsession of jobless people.


For bold - when I read that someone had said that about the viewers...I was disgusted. Do they not realize they marketed their show to an urban, tech saavy audience who stays interconnected via social sites? We rant/rave because we are intelligent and know when BS is being served. Also using the term "unemployed" as a derogatory term is sad.

At the expense of sounding rude...they want a TRP audience who gives two craps about what is shown and not an intelligent audience who actively invests in entertainment and cares about the issues shown.

Makers of this show fail to show respect to their viewers, which is sad and reflects an inability to accomodate to the modern audience. The people I have interacted on this thread are highly intelligent and accomplished people, so to belittle our investment in the show is petty.

I have seen another one of Ekta's CVs positively interact with viewers and even express her frustrations over things like TRPs and stuff. That speaks volumes to that person's character.

No matter how good a product, there is always room for improvement. Many people are not rude when they give feedback, so why the OTT response? Yes some people are rude & hateful but if the actors of the show are good at ignoring it...why not the creatives?

I would pay to see an actual reporter have an honest interview with the creatives of this show.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: maaloo

Gan.. 🤗 WORD!!! Lovely post as usual.. and I hear ya.. loud and clear.

I hate to rant too, constantly, and these past few days.. I realized that I had only rants and grievances that I totally stopped commenting in the thread and dampen the proceedings with additional rants.. and hoping fervently for it to pick up so that I can stop ranting and start raving about the show as i used to before. Like you mentioned, the entertainment value is gone.. nada.. zilch.. kaput..

One of the reasons that I started watching YHM was because of the fact that I could relate to it. Relate to Raman.. relate to Ishita.. relate to Simmi.. relate to Ruhi.. dang.. I could even relate to Shagun!! I could put myself in their shoes and could justify their actions.. to a certain extent.

Raman .. a totally broken man, who realizes that his seemingly perfect marriage was nothing but a mirage, accepting that his wife whom he idolized has feet of clay, coming back with a vengeance, bitter and broken, but taking on life head on, and testing the new "woman" in his life to the utmost to see if she breaks, regaining his trust in women, realizing that his wife is his strength..accepting that he loves her as she makes his home .. a haven. This entire character graph has a lot of growth.. though there are lots of dips in the graph, it always showed growth.

Ishita .. a person who was left at the altar, so to speak, because of limitations which was totally out of her control, compassionate and still not bitter and taking life head on, lived life by her values, feisty but still very loving and ready to compromise to a situation so that the family doesn't suffer.. generous and giving.. Again another character who made wrong calls and mistakes more because of her naivety and belief that people are more good than evil, and willing to accept that it was situations that made a person act the way they did.

Shagun..the narcissistic person, who felt she deserved more than what she got in her marriage with Raman, and when opportunity arose she moved on to greener pastures not caring about the trauma or the havoc that she left behind.. and that included an infant girl. She was a classic case of narcissistic personality disorder and believed that she deserved the best at any cost.

I could go on and on and on about each and every character which were neither white nor black and on an average all had grayish undertones.. And this is what attracted me to the show in the first place..

In each kaand.. i could relate to the reaction by the character whether it was a right one or not. During param kaand, it was not that Raman did not believe in Ishita but he reacted as a brother, not knowing what to do in a situation wherein his sister could be left heartbroken. He didn't want to be seen as the husband who took his wife's side without giving a fair hearing to his sister.. but on gaining proof that Param was wrong he realizes that it was not about his wife or sister but about letting a person like Param go free. And Ishita was reacting to the crime as a person..and that no person no matter what the situation/relation is, should be made to suffer such indignity on oneself, and keeping silent only encourages such baddies like Param to be more powerful to hurt others. And Simmi was reacting as a wife who totally trusted her husband and could not believe that her husband could do something so bad.. and also at the same time failing to accept the reality that the earth was shifting beneath her feet and she was trying to stay afloat by clinging on to her "vishwas".. that her husband could not cheat her.. or do the things that he was accused of, because after all said and done he claimed to love her and she loved him.. so what was the need for him to stray.. the classic case of disbelief or rather scared to doubt because that would mean that her vishwas was wrong .. her judgement was wrong.. and how could that be.. so it was better to challenge it than to question her judgement..

During amma's accident, i could relate to a father who wanted to protect his son from going to jail.. at the cost of doing stuff totally against his grain, more because he believed that his son was the one who was affected by his divorce and he felt guilty about having put his kids' through that trauma that he didn't want to inflict more trauma on them.. so he did what he did.. even though he knew in his heart that it was not right. Ishita on the other hand believed that guilty should be punished and rightly so too.. and is upset thinking Raman was protecting his ex-wife but backs off once she realizes that its her step-son .. and leaves it upto the parent to decide what to do about it.. as it was the parents' decision to make..

During Mani track, I could relate to Ishita..who knew that her husband was slightly jealous of her friendship with mani, and initially flaunts it just to make him realize his love for her and accept it and not to really make him jealous. She was confident of her friendship and in her eyes they were the best friends so she couldnt understand why anybody should mistake their friendship.. And Raman reacted like a jealous husband, not believing that a male and a female could be just friends.. and he viewed everything through the eyes of the green-eyed monster, and couldn't stand the thought of losing his new found love to another man who was in her life as a friend.. and on the award night, everything in his head came to a boiling point and helped with a few drinks, to make him lose it, and he tried to physically get his wife to accept that he is "the man". Not that it was right thing to do and that I approve of it.. but yes, i could understand where he is coming from.

I am not sadistic to want to see a man on his knees begging forgiveness from his wife for his mistakes or crying with remorse all the time, or to be dominated by his wife.. nor am i a feminist who believes that women are a better species and are superior .
I would rather see them as equals who approach an issue with some logic and resolve it.. and yes.. having come thus far in their relation .. to communicate with each other.. because that was something that was lacking and led to all the mis-understanding in all their previous issues.

But come December, the whole color palette changed and the balance was totally disturbed. The CVs thought the gray was not a color and went about painting their character's either black or white, and making the vamp, the hero in the story.

All the issues that they dealt with are real ones.. children's mental trauma in dirty custody battles, depression among kids, possessiveness for a child, heck even the rant about GKC, all are valid issues..but the way they are going about depicting them is all wrong. And that's where I have a problem. I could understand as a parent, what Adi is going through and Ruhi is going through but then being the same parent, i dont think I would do what Raman is doing or Ishita is doing .. or even what Shagun is doing.. and that for me has been the crux of the problem.. not being able to relate to anything.

And I loved the way you said how you saw DIVAN in the last romantic scene and the power of their acting but still they failed to convince you that it was an ISHRA romantic scene.. (I haven't watched it btw, I stopped watching sometime last week.. but still do read the updates.. ) There .. that itself is, according to me, half the battle lost on the part of the CVs.. the ability to convince the viewers in their story.

I hope the CVs realize that and do something about it.. And realize that the success of their story telling is in the number of viewers that want to stick with the show and deliberate about the happenings in the show .. reason things out and thus discuss openly about social issues and possibly go about promoting the right way out of these social issues and cliched situations, and not in the number of those who just play the show in background not caring for the story and ready to switch channels when another one comes along.. A story becomes epic when it will be remembered even after the curtains are drawn not when it will be forgotten and trashed even before the last scene is played out..

Phew.. that was long one Gan.. not my intention at all when I started with the first line but then I just couldn't stop it mid-steam..😆


Word Maloo!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: krishy13


For bold - when I read that someone had said that about the viewers...I was disgusted. Do they not realize they marketed their show to an urban, tech saavy audience who stays interconnected via social sites? We rant/rave because we are intelligent and know when BS is being served. Also by using the term "unemployed" as a derogatory term is sad.

At the expense of sounding rude...they want a TRP audience who gives two craps about what is shown and not an intelligent audience who actively invests in entertainment and cares about the issues shown.

Makers of this show fail to show respect to their viewers, which is sad and reflects an inability to accomodate to the modern audience. The people I have interacted on this thread are highly intelligent and accomplished people, so to belittle our investment in the show is petty.

I have seen another one of Ekta's CVs positively interact with viewers and even express her frustrations over things like TRPs and stuff. That speaks volumes to that person's character.

No matter how good a product, there is always room for improvement. Many people are not rude when they give feedback, so why the OTT response? Yes some people are rude & hateful but if the actors of the show are good at ignoring it...why not the creatives?

I would pay to see an actual reporter have an honest interview with the creatives of this show.


Word! We rant because we know it's bullshit. I had a W*F moment when I read about what the creative said- Coz i definitely remember this show being marketed as one for the urban audience- And if they think the urban audience are a bunch of uneducated fools- then I feel really sorry for them- Coz ultimately they are gonna be at a loss.

There was a point when KP/DT even replied to some fans on twitter saying they are hoping for a better storyline too. Well I guess that pretty much covers how much the creatives actually care about their product- which is Nada. Even the actors care- but i doubt they have any say in what they are portraying.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47
Great Post G 👏👏.. Every line was to the point. I just hope the Redeem/Resurrect RKB soon. Missing RKB the CEO, Husband and Father 😭😭.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Morning All- U wonderful Ladies!! Thx a lot Gan for posting this and sending a PM. U have in your post, reflected most of our opinions and feelings.
Over the last few weeks, it is so unfortunate that YHM started to leave a very bad taste and being honest, other than reading your posts (religiously) and some other FF (by some excellent writers here), its just random episodes that I've been watching- that too purely based on your posts!!

Coming to the current post, how much more APT can the title be? I would also like to add "PLEASE RESURRECT YHM". I have started watching YHM sometime in Feb/ March 2014, and got so addicted to it, purely because it WAS, though, a fictional show, very close to reality and most of us could relate to almost every character in the show. I had to use the past tense, because unfortunately, lately, it is no more the same YHM that it used to be. As you mentioned in your previous thread, related to the Sat's episode, I have not been able to relate to the show for the last few weeks- months. Probably I am a bit more impatient, compared to most of you. There is still a small flicker of hope somewhere, and hence I keep checking here to see, if I can go back to my fav show.

As you and others have mentioned, Raman's characterisation has been going downhill and it is really getting difficult to watch it. Thinking back, I missed a few episodes in Mani's track as well. Too much drama. To start with, they part butchered Ishita's character. A very sensible woman like her, who could easily sense Raman's and others feelings, could not pick up her husband's anguish. They had to stretch it to the extent of almost marital rape/ mloestation. HE WAS WRONG ETHICALLY, MORALLY and LEGALLY. Though most of us felt that and were upset with the way, it was dealt with- we could still stick to the show and try to rationalise, thinking and understanding Raman's frustrations. And as you rightly pointed out, there was absolutely no closure to that incident. It was/is a shame, but most of us, though unhappy, continued to stick to the show.

The next most liked character, after the leads- Mihika! Not sure, where the fierce, brave, independent lady has disappeared. It was so painful to see her character being reduced to what she is now- starting from befriending Shagun (U don't do that in real world), Shagun's marriage preparations (what rubbish and utter waste of time) etc etc..!
I don't want to talk about the so many other character assassinations (esp, during the Shagun's marriage fiasco) and random tracks, over the last few months, as I'd go on and on. The "ex-biwi's" tactics, scheming, plotting and her dressing- THE MOST IRRITATING!!

Coming to Raman- what more can I say, that talented people like U have not already said. It is so sad to see his current portrayal of character. Leaving aside his character for a second, I cannot even look at his scruffy, shabby and unkempt look. I am sorry, I think my personal preferences (not disrepecting others likes here) are taking a stand here. (My POV, Raman is clinically depressed- hence maybe no time to go the barber😕). And probably I could have half-closed/ opened 😉 my eyes and continued watching the show, if he was the RKB! But no- what I see, is a guy, who is forever guilty, tearful and is committing one mistake after the other. And grave ones too!! And to top it all, the disjointed, kind of forced intimacy scene on Saturday- what was that about? It didnt even leave a good feel, seeing IshRa together. I tried and tried but could not understand what Raman's intentions were at that time? Really?? What were the CVs trying to convey? Am I not smart enough to understand what they actually intended to show? If I remember right, Ishita did talk to Raman, about being husband and wife and sharing everything. And he still ends up doing the SAME MISTAKE. This non-communication between the couple is driving me up the wall. I'm sorry!!

Of late, there has been a lot of INCONSISTENCY about everything in the show. As of now, the only consistent 2 characters are Ruhi and Mihir. I hope they stay intact, esp IshRu's relationship.

I am not really sure if I made any sense. I have started watching this show, as I felt good after it. I don't want to waste my emotions on unwanted drama and heart-breaks. I can't take it. As it is, we all have our own share of drama in real life. I will be lying if I say, I'm not watching YHM. I am, everyday- but the old episodes. How well- done were they? Beautiful! Even Toshiji and Mrs Iyer's taunts and North Vs South, though a bit OTT, were so realistic.

I don't yet want to give up hope, still like this show, for what it WAS and hoping what it might be. I shall still continue to follow you here, and hope our YHM gets better and takes back its place soon!!

Apologies for this long, nonsensical rant!!!

Lavy




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Amazing posts guys .. It's good to know I'm not pulling a shagunniganhere over a daily soap😆 and there are others who feel like they are in the same Boat as me: ranting but still has hope for YHM

Well I don't know which Cv is that who thinks people who interect with them on Twitter are jobless individuals .. Well I would say this much it proves the Cvs indeed don't know part of their target audience. 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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A much needed and wonderfully written post Gan!
And everyone's very eloquently weighed in their inputs as well.

As an audience the first thing I look for in a show is entertainment-and like you and Malu said, that essential factor is missing big time from this show now. Maybe what and how they are steering the story and story telling is entertaining to many(it's still the #3 show)-but they have lost my interest!

I also understand I am/we are the minority, and our feedback/opinions don't mean much(did I just read we are addressed as the 'obsessed jobless audience'???). However what these producers and CVs forget that it's us 'obsessed jobless audience' from whom they directly hear praises and applause regarding their work- not the TRP audience. The TRP audience helps them pay their bills but their creativity and brilliance is applauded(and they get to read abt it) by us-so a little bit of modesty and niceness will take them far!

Coming back to the show and the current state of it, from my experience of the past shows-this was expected. It doesn't matter that it is EK's show-at the end of the day, everyone needs to feed their stomachs...for as long as they can. And for better or for worse such illogical melodrama, OTT scenarios and a weak male lead make for great prime time television viewing.

Most shows on TV are shutting shop within 6 months...and these are shows that started with a unique concept. From where I see it, no one has mastered the balance of drama and sensible story telling past the 1 yr mark!!

Having said that, I will be around in the hope that maybe EK and the CVs will surprise me one day- because ummeed par duniya kaayam...and all that jazz:)
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