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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ..Mehak..



Has Raman ever expressed his feelings to her so how can you expect Ishu to do the same. Listen, Ishu is not doing this intentially. I know she is wrong by hiding things for him but she is doing all this for him na. No matter what ever Raman says to her or the way treats her. Thats a big thing that she doesn't says anything and act normal with him and on the other way Raman should have a trust factor on Ishu not every women is like Shagun but if he is having a doubt on her he should ask her rather than making his own assumptions!!

Sorry to hurt anyones sentiments that was only my POV.


It's not a question of Ishita should measure up to Raman's expression of feelings or vice versa. Raman has definitely through his actions and his teasing shown Ishita a glimpse of his inner world...but the emotional wounds of his past keep him in self-preservation mode, his past with Shagun was a nightmare that turned his life upside down. One little coincidence with his past and he could nosedive into the pain of the past.

Ishita on the other hand can't make up her mind...one minute he is MERE RAMAN and caring, next minute he is insensitive and uncaring. She knows Raman is jealous over her friendship with Mani and she definitely gets a kick out of seeing him in that jalan mode. She crossed a dangerous line when she went from someone who didn't lie to blatant lies now. Even when she met Simmi and Param before she brought them home for the first time, she never lied, she kept quiet. This time she's lying and to Raman she's going against the person he's known all these months and that rings an alarm in his mind. Why can't she admit she spoke to Mani instead of making up stories. In a marriage, trust is the foundation, it's like a chipped glass it can never be the same.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@My dear Rheash, Raman has also done the same thing. During Adi accident track, he use to hide things from Ishita and Ishu is doing the same during that time Raman was majboor this time Ishu is majboor. And, about Ishu giving importance to other man is not true! She is behaving normal with her bestie just the way any other women do! She is totally not ignoring Raman like Shagun did. She cares for him and cannot deny it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Loveforlife

Nice post!

All I want to add is a lady who knows about her husbands difficult past relationship will be careful in her deeds and actions as to not to hurt him ... and Ishita was one such sensitive person before the CV's gave her this grotesque transformation..


Does she think Ramu won't come to know later that Mani helped her in retaining his Asia head crown? What is the point of hiding that she is meeting Mani? Can't she tell him she is meeting Mani for coffee etc.. Something closer to the truth rather than all these suspicious goings on?!


Why just Raman, any normal person without a difficult past relationship will become suspicious if his wife does all these things!


Once trust is questionable it can change the course of any marriage where at least one of them cares about the other. Indifference is the death knell of a marriage. For Raman, a woman who never lied about anything suddenly lying about that call from Mani would be a blow. He doesn't want to doubt her but he is right to question why she would choose to lie about talking to Mani, after all she has gone on a Mani mantra for weeks now and much as he dislikes it he has put up with it and even felt jealous of the time she's spent chatting with her long lost friend over her own husband. He even stated as much when he walked away hurt.

Ishita is playing games...in real life this could have terrible consequences...he could go into a deep depression or send her packing not wanting to relive the Shagun betrayal once again. This time around Ishita is the one who has to set things right, after all, she's the one who created this mess. She comes across a bit of a sadist though she claims she wants to secure his title at the ABGuild. Bakwas, I say to that. 🤪
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Posted: 10 years ago
#64
For all these months the story is just moving in circles! I feel like a person lost in an haunted jungle reaching the same place in the forest every time. Be it accident track, Permeet track, Mihir's sister kaun track, Mani track or the current one... Every track they could have delt with trust, insecurity etc etc... But they backed out every single time! After every drama we are left at the starting point.. One day Ramu looks in love, the next day Ishu looks in love. Some days both look in love and on other days both don't look in love... One day Ishita is Jealous next day Raman is jealous. One day Raman is hurt, next day Ishita is hurt... One day it's about trust, next day it's about insecurities... It just keeps going on and on, like a black hole!Some of us try to bring out the sense in the story and then some of us find it senseless..

The bottom line is that we all know the CV's "confession ke baad people losing interest scenario se darte hai" this is their new tactic to keep audience tuned. But for how long can one make us keep running in circles? Ek din toh chakkar ani hai!


Sorry for venting, can't help it... 😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well written! I was actually willing to give this track a chance but today was the height to stupidity and unnecessary crap.
Let me start with the J track. To be honest I was really looking forward to this track because I expected and thought it was going to be a light written track which would bring out Raman's possessive side and cute jealous expressions. Also I thought this track would be done the first week it was introduce. Well boy I was so wrong its is still going to and it has taken for an unnecessary direction which was not needed. I dont understand why the CVs don't want to show a platonic relationship between a man and women. It could have been shown but they had to go ruin that too. Honestly if the CVs had shown it that way Mani would have been a bearable cameo.


Now coming to Ishita. Ishita was one of my favourite indian soap protagonist. She was sensible, smart, intelligent, strong and independent career women. She this woman that took no nonsense from Raman or anyone. I understand that people change after marriage a lot but its for the better. You tell me because you are married and would know more than me. But here they just butchered Ishita character. I don't understand why Ekta kapoor does that to her female protagonist. She shows them strong and then decides I don't like this character at all so Im gonna show her mahaan and stupid because thats what I like about my female protagonists. Cheee honestly! Miss Ekta Kapoor herself is a successful and independent women then why degrade women in her shows. I will never understand that about her at all. Its pathetic and its the 21st century I thought we would way past that but I'm wrong. Today Ishita's actions and naiveness was irritating and beyond childish. 🤢 I have notice instead of showing progression on Ishita's character through the show they haven't shown progression at all. They just stop caring about her character and just turned her into a typical indian soap protagonist. Im going to be so pissed if they show Ishita being angry at Raman at all. They better show her dealing with Raman in a gentle way. CVs need to bring back the old Ishita that was a great example to women. I feed up with Indian soaps showing stupid, weak, mahaan protagonists. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I hate what they have done to my old Ishita.

Raman's character has great progress actually. But that was ruined during the accident track but they sort of redeem his character following the various tracks after that. I dont even know what to say about his character during this track. I know they say people do stupid things when they are love but does Raman even in that category. I feel bad for this man but at the same time I am also frustrated with him too.
The Cvs claim this a mature love story but where the hell is the mature part. Im still waiting for them to show that part.

WHY CANT Ishita and Raman talk like mature adults. This couple seriously lacks communication and trust, the two most important things in a successful marriage. I guess the CVs don't want that.

Edited by cocololo123 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#66
Started watching this show recently- caught up on some old episodes which were really classy ! The way they have potrayed it seems like Ishita is having an EMOTIONAL AFFAIR with Mani !

- she wakes up with his call
- goes to sleep after calling him
-goes everywhere with him
- lies about him to her husband
- laughs with her bestie at her husband on something serious like her husband checking her phone.
THAT WAS SERIOUS - any married woman invested in her marriage will be jolted that her husband has so little trust that he needs to check her phone. That scene was so tasteless & Ishita came across as self-absorbed & totally mean. I don't think that act and changing the contact can be redeemed.
-bitches about her husband to him
-lets the bestie feed her, hug her, drop in whenever he want

Even if a brother/family does all these things, any husband would get irritated.

All in the name of some BS position. Left a very bad taste, and more fool us for watching :)


Here's the definition from WebMD-

- According to Saltz, these seven red flags suggest you may have entered into an emotional affair:

  1. You spend a lot of emotional energy on the person. "You end up sharing stuff that you don't even share with your partner -- hopes and dreams, things that would actually connect you to your partner."
  2. You dress up for that person.
  3. You make a point to find ways to spend time together, and that time becomes very important to you.
  4. You'd feel guilty if your partner saw you together; you are doing things and saying things that you would never do or say in front of your spouse.
  5. You share your feelings of marital dissatisfaction.
  6. You're keeping secret the amount of time you're spending with the person (including emailing, calling, texting).

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Posted: 10 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: ..Mehak..

@My dear Rheash, Raman has also done the same thing. During Adi accident track, he use to hide things from Ishita and Ishu is doing the same during that time Raman was majboor this time Ishu is majboor. And, about Ishu giving importance to other man is not true! She is behaving normal with her bestie just the way any other women do! She is totally not ignoring Raman like Shagun did. She cares for him and cannot deny it.



@Blue: True. But just because Raman did something wrong, Ishita would repeat the same. It's not a competition for making errors after all. Besides, sensitive Ishita that we knew would never do such things considering her husband's difficult past.Well, Ishu is majboor for what or whom exactly is still a mystery to me.

@Red: There is two versions of it. Firstly, I'm a teenager with lots of male BFFs but I never change my daily routine for them. I don't seek their constant help in my private matter either. Every relationship has its own limit. Secondly, Ishita is a married woman and it does change the perspective in a whole other level. No husband would like the way Ishu is behaving and to be honest, irrespective of the marital status, no woman would chant about her best friend for almost 24/7. To make matter worse, she can't even function properly without Mani these days. From petty household chores to jassoosi work, she seeks Mani's hands. I don't think any woman would go that overboard. My aunt, a sucessful lawyer by profession and a staunch feminist, who watches the show whenever she catches time told me other day what was Ishita doing in the name of friendship would've cost her marriage in real life.

Edited by RheaSh - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#68
whoa Kodai

thanks for definition of "emotional affair" 😈
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: kodai

Started watching this show recently- caught up on some old episodes which were really classy ! The way they have potrayed it seems like Ishita is having an EMOTIONAL AFFAIR with Mani !


- she wakes up with his call
- goes to sleep after calling him
-goes everywhere with him
- lies about him to her husband
- laughs with her bestie at her husband on something serious like her husband checking her phone.
THAT WAS SERIOUS - any married woman invested in her marriage will be jolted that her husband has so little trust that he needs to check her phone. That scene was so tasteless & Ishita came across as self-absorbed & totally mean. I don't think that act and changing the contact can be redeemed.
-bitches about her husband to him
-lets the bestie feed her, hug her, drop in whenever he want

Even if a brother/family does all these things, any husband would get irritated.

All in the name of some BS position. Left a very bad taste, and more fool us for watching :)


Here's the definition from WebMD-

- According to Saltz, these seven red flags suggest you may have entered into an emotional affair:

  1. You spend a lot of emotional energy on the person. "You end up sharing stuff that you don't even share with your partner -- hopes and dreams, things that would actually connect you to your partner."
  2. You dress up for that person.
  3. You make a point to find ways to spend time together, and that time becomes very important to you.
  4. You'd feel guilty if your partner saw you together; you are doing things and saying things that you would never do or say in front of your spouse.
  5. You share your feelings of marital dissatisfaction.
  6. You're keeping secret the amount of time you're spending with the person (including emailing, calling, texting).


Wow...👏 I request you to make an individual topic in this forum and post this content there.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: btalwar

The entire point of my ranting is not this episode ...

I have a problem with the NAHI SOCH approach of Star Plus/YHM creative team

1. Why does marriage need a third wheel to work? How many arranged marriages between two diametrically opposite souls work out brilliantly each and everyday ... I can vouch we will have many people out there in the forum itself who have had a successful arranged marriage ... it is not necessary to bring the cliche jealousy track all the time.

2. What do the creative wants to portray when they show mistrust and lying as the savior to the relationship ... Lying is a big NO in any marrige

3. Why can't a man and woman be best of friends ... correction sensible best friends ... why can't they have platonic relationships without generating stupid MUs between either of their lives ... Good Morning SP .. nayi soch ... this is 2014 ... not 1914 ... what is the use of your tagline if you are stuck to cementing the age old concepts of Indian culture that kuch to hoga in dono me .. BULLSHIT

To me, this track is a mockery to all this ... this serial was mature because it was based on sensitive issues ... custody, infertility, infidelity, second chances in life, anger management, letting go ...

But turns out, as usual as per the (in)famous SICKA** JEE .. we FANS are FOOLS and fooled we have been


Hey Bhanu.. 🤗 .. you just said everything i wanted to.. late posting here.. blame my work..

anyways... they have tried recreating the accident track by interchanging the protagonists.. and woh they have screwed it big time atleast according to me...

jealousy was not how I wanted these two to confess their feelings.. nevertheless thats how they want to show it to us its ok.. but in this whole track they have butchered Ishita's character (I sound like a broken taperecorder now 🥱) and also the friendship between a guy and a girl after marraige... and that was not required.

As Swathi said, a girl who wouldnt lie and went broke down on being called a liar... she lied and that too for what... the whole premise seemed ridiculous...!

I agree Raman hasn't been the easiest husband to live with there have been soo many instances in the past when he should have apologized or reflected on his behavior then Ishita was shown very very understanding (that was also strange , but whatever) and now she is shown stupid... she in her innumerable monologues has been noticing the change and can't she connect the dots (@Ruby se seekh sakti hain 😃)... They have all along showed Ishita as perfect, and now they are progressively making her more stupid... I would have been glad if she had told off Mani for bothering her during her morning routine.. but na that too didnt happen instead we got a tasteless conversation...

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