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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

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Bhanu relax first of all I know this track is not an easy one to digest but then how could it be? Its a show that is dealing with a very sensitive issue that of infidelity especially one committed by a woman - a taboo in our society to even discuss. Now I am single you know this maybe that is why I am calmer when I see things, I have no experience of a romatic relationship since I havent yet found someone I could connect with.


Having said that I understand your anger, your frustration and yes your disgust at letting Ruhi watch somewhat of an ugly scenario between her parents but the thing is its a sad reality - kids watch UGLIER things than these in some homes where a father not just verbally - but physically even sexually assaults his wife day in and day out in front of them. Yes Ruhi got her parents when IshRa married but that doesnt mean she will always see rainbows and sunshines, every child watches something that they dont like between their parents at some point.

I am not trying to justify the cvs but only saying this was a real thing and maybe, just maybe they will be reprimanded for this by Sr.Bhalla who intervened and took Ruhi away.

Call me delusional/hopeful but I am still very much interested in this track - I wanna see where this is headed cos clearly what happened today was exactly what I imagined - past wounds were revisited, reopened and a man was ripped raw, he will BLEED tommorow even more. I am not saying anyone deserves this - no one does. But I wanna see the culmination of this track before accusing the CVs...to me this is something I have awaited.

Yes Raman Bhalla emerged from the ashes of Happy Bhalla and became RKB. He conquered the world, he made a place for himself and he showed his mettle to everyone who laughed at him. He proved himself - his capabilities the thing he was shunned and dumped for.

He got revenge but did he achieve healing in the process? The answer is NO.

Cause RKB was not the injured man here - he was the byproduct of that man who was ditched and duped. He was the enigma that emerged from it - he was Raavan Kumar.

Tonight when Shagun mocked him again he taunted HAPPY not RKB and that is the part of him that will finally, finally come out of his shell, he would be the one who would cry his heart out and ask - what makes me unlovable? Why me? What is so wrong with me that I deserve this?

The answer that would finally heal him is the one that he has been awaiting - that he never was at fault, he was never ever unlovable...cos he is loved.

Sometimes to heal you have to endure pain...All I can say is that this whole thing reminds me of a quote which sums up everything in perfect words as per me

"The emotion that can break your heart is sometimes the very one that heals it..."

Tonight you are angry and I am not against that, I wanna say dont write things off just yet. Wait and watch, yes its gonna be hard and tough - but then all things worthwhile are. 😳



Aani ... to begin with ... do not worry ... you are one of those few who help me remain sane in this mad forum ... so I cannot afford to be angry from you.

Having said that, I still agree to disagree to all that you have to say! I agree that being married does affect my POV, however, my first question to you is ... as an individual, you are not stranger to relationships ... And relationships are based on trust ... It can be any relationship ... even friendship is a relationship. The first and foremost step of a relationship is Trust and the first step of breaking trust is to lie to a person. For me, Ishita broke that basic rule today.

Secondly, Ruhi. I know there are worse parents than depicted in the show and there are worse scenarios possible. But this comes from the same Ishita who had a Dil Ka Rishta with Ruhi and could sense her discomfort from across the flat(Which frankly was unbelievable to my sane mind) and today she is point blank ignoring the breakfast of her child who has to rush to school ... a phone call is that important?

To be frank, any other day, I may have neglected it as a normal fight between the couple ... but today it looked like CVs were hell bent on ruining her character and left no stones unturned just to create MU ... to me it looked forced ... there was a better way out for it ...

Aani, that is where my problem begins ... do they really need to revisit the wounds? Some people may say that they need to be opened to treat them ... but I must say Ishita is worse than an quack on the roadside in this term ... do all second marriages which are successful culminate like this ... NO ... you can TALK and open and heal the wounds ... you can assure and heal the wounds ... you can love and heal the wounds ... gestures heal the wounds ... Recreating the same scenario does not ... what is the guarantee that Raman does not go into depression after this ... ok he is a fictional character ... but in real life ... Is it not possible that a man can have nervous breakdown after all this ... he may turn suicidal ... there are so many worse case scenarios to it ... to me a silver lining is what I have to dig out for ... And honesltly ... cannot see any in it.

I will use your quote to put my point ... I also wanted to have a glimpse of Happy Bhalla, the one who is vulnerable but not like this ... The healing process can start by an emotional confrontation, an emotion which will certainly bring pain ... but the path taken is what I am dead against ... to me it killed the soul of YHM and that is what am objecting to ...

"The emotion that can break your heart is sometimes the very one that heals it..."

Nicholas Sparks, At First Sight

Writing off ... naah ... am not a pessimist so am making no announcements of quitting this show ... It is a time pass for me ... and more than it ... it is a medium to connect with all of u ... my only point to all this is ... I am disappointed in the writing and someone who has made posts to bow down to writers cringes when I see such a horrendous track

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Posted: 10 years ago
#42
so with you ...especially today I was aghast! 😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43
I don't understand you people. You people cannot be happy no matter what ever you get. I thought I was not only the only one who is going to enjoy this track but alas i think everyone is thinking exactly opposite of me. Common this track is going to awesome we will see Raman insecurities again and by this he will get to know not every women is like Shagun, there are some ladiees like Ishita who only wants love from their hubby not frame.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
I cant say i dont like ishita anymore bcoz i does, and this track is very chee, but the problem is that its not with ishita or ishra its same track bloody same yuck track as in many ekta shows so for me untill this track yhm was an unique, mature, fresh, and very lovely and realistic show but with this stupid same track of every ekta balaji show has killed that thought of me
I just cannot blame ishita or raman bcoz this is not fault of the character its stupid same track
Now raman will doubt ishu and maybe imagine worse se worser things, and i really dont think this track will lead to confession, iqhita would try to tell raman that its for his business poste, but or he will be always so angry or he would have loose trust on her that much that he will think she is lying
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
even m not liking this track...its a typical ekta kapoor track...😡😡😡 don't want YHM to lose its originality...😭😭😭 poor ruhi...she got ignored by both her parents...😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: ..Mehak..

I don't understand you people. You people cannot be happy no matter what ever you get. I thought I was not only the only one who is going to enjoy this track but alas i think everyone is thinking exactly opposite of me. Common this track is going to awesome we will see Raman insecurities again and by this he will get to know not every women is like Shagun, there are some ladiees like Ishita who only wants love from their hubby not frame.



One can give love and if they receive love in return it's a gift. One can't force or manipulate another to love...waste of time and it never works in the long run. Ishita playing games with an emotionally bruised man who happens to be her husband is not acceptable, one never knows when it will come back to bite her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: btalwar

I was someone who came back to the TV duniya after so many years due to the sheer nature of this show. It was fresh, mature, and different, as close to reality as possible and the topmost ... It was sensible.

I had openly vented out and disagreed to the time slot change because I felt that it will end up becoming a scapegoat of the timeslot and boy I was right. Today the frustrated viewer in me wants to vent out the frustration of this track 😡😡.

There were many a times earlier also that we were disappointed from the ongoing tracks. I for a change, did not take all this to heart ... and week after week, though will vent out my frustration in LU ... I was made happy every Wednesday with one brilliant episode after another ... I have made posts to bring positivity to the forum and tried to cheer us all ... and I actually wanted to do it this time as well ... but this track makes me cringe, rather boil in anger and I had to write this piece to clear my mind ...

I have a problem with this entire track. I was all for it when Mani had entered into the scene and the jealousy track was all for fun and frolic and it brought out the possessive side of Raman. It was another step in realization and a cameo was a brilliant move by the CVs.

But the moment, this track went took a serious turn, I immediately knew that this show has been sacrificed at the altar of the time slot. The usual jealousy track, a known MU and then a dramatic confession!

Believe, my addiction to the show would have made me gulp this down as well as a bitter pill. But the butchering of the characters of Raman and especially Ishita definitely make me want to vomit at the moment.

Am a happily married woman and though it does not make me an expert on marriage, I definitely know the ground rules of marriage. The first and foremost amongst those is TRUST. And what Ishita did in this entire track is enough to break the trust of Raman. Even if he did not carry the baggage of Shagun behind him, this track for me is enough for breaking the trust.

I am no writer and no expert but why does Ishita need to talk to Mani when her husband is around? She cannot do that in clinic? A court case cannot be solved in a day so this issue does not need to be sorted out in the middle of night. Who picks up someone's call when you are having a kind of intimate moment with your husband ... the KC fast scene yesterday when she silently wants to thank him ... will Sarika deliver a baby in the next second if Ishita did not pick up the call of Mani ... heck ... it was her first KC . she could see her husband who is rarely expressive was all shy and they were sharing a romantic moment between them, he kept a fast for her ... he does not like Mani ... there is a message in every phone which says ... I will call you later ... she could have cut the call ... ever heard about it woman?? What was the need to change his name to a girl? Raman was only annoyed ... but did he ever stop her from talking to Mani ... She very well knows that her husband comes from a broken marriage where trust was the major factor and yet breaking the trust is something which came to her so naturally? She did not for once think what will her husband think if he finds out the truth and how will he interpret it? This same woman was giving her husband a silent treatment because he had trust issues with her and told him point blank that she does not need a character certificate from him. She is his wife and she does not need to prove anything further. Then why this so annoying step of changing the name of Mani? Raman found about this in a jiffy in the series ... otherwise imagine ... instead of Mani, now she is getting incessant calls from Manisha instead of Mani day and night ... I will blast the CVs if the CEO of the year with a history of adultery cannot figure out this stupid logic.

Mani. The less I say about this character, the better. Why do they want to butcher the fact that a boy and girl cannot be best of friends? Why can't they show that people from opposite genders can be sensible and use their brains while maintaining the friendship pretty well? Mani is shown to be a man in his thirties and a successful businessman. Can he not define the boundary of his relationship with his best friend? Which best friend calls in the middle of night and says sweetheart? If I get a call from my Papa at 1 AM, I will be shocked ... leave alone my best friend. All in all, this entire track was about lying and generating mistrust and sadly cementing the age old beliefs of aunties with prejudices that if a married person is talking, laughing, having coffee and dinner dates with a person from opposite gender, then definitely it is more than friendship ... a big CHEEE to the writers for promoting this track and this thought ...

You know, I was shocked to see all this ... because honestly ... I was immediately taken back to the "Ek Dooje ke Vaaste" sequence when they sit in the auto rikshaw together and Ishita gets a call from her then fiance ... she immediately tells him she is with Raman ... she tells the entire truth to the man she was engaged to ... and when Raman surprisingly confronts her ... she is like ... I do not lie ... That was the soul of YHM ... not this stupidity they are presenting to us.

Pardon me for my rude language, but for, this track butchered and mercilessly raped the character of Ishita and we were given a ghost of her real self ... a normal stupid, brainless, thoughtless, soapy land bahu who is not at the Ishita Bhalla I identified with.

In my opinion, is a jealousy track really required to show progress in their relationship? Why cannot Raman and Ishita fall for each other without the crutches of a third party? Why couldn't they come closer with the help of Ruhi? Why couldn't they open up to each other without this jealousy track all together ... the argument will be less drama ... so I DO NOT agree to it ... They are husband and wife ... the drama can come from so many angles ... life, a forced family outing, a walk in the park, comparison from other happily settled couples and parents, their understanding of each other, they are working so a geographical separation due to a conference, onsite visit ... hell CVs I can give you hundreds of other reasons which show a progression in relationship. But guess, all this is not acceptable in the soapy land of 7:30 when in the previous show, the old fat lady wears a king size bindi on her forehead at 4 AM and gets up all decked up ... nightwear and sans makeup look is forbidden in the sanskari soapy bahu land ...

We got a glimpse of Happy Bhalla ... who is desperate enough for just one clue ... just one clue and is ready to give up all ... what makes me sad is ... Few episodes down the line ... we will have a scene where he will end up drinking (his normal behavior till now) ... and then take out his frustration on Ishita ... And then our heroine will be made Mahaan because she will cry and TRP aunties will be happy ... no one will once, even for a second give a thought that this track actually played with the sensibilities of a man ... trust which was broken ... My mother once told me ... You can repair anything in this world ... but trust once broken cannot be repaired ... it is like a broken piece of glass ... u cannot join it ... Today, for me ... this is what happened ...

Another soul of YHM which was ruined today was Ruhi ... the show was based on the life of Ruhi ... Sirf Ruhi ke Liye ... Ruhi ke liye Ishita had warned Raman on the second day of her marriage .. Raman was ready to forego his post and everything sirf Ruhi ke Liye when his daughter took his test ... Ruhi was the center of this relationship ...

Sirf Ruhi ke Liye was butchered today ... one of the parent shouted on the kid due to his frustration ... and the second one vented out the same thing in her own manner in front of the kid ... Do I need to tell them that how smart a seven year old kid is and how quickly the kid will interpret a problem between her parents? Both of them happily ignored that the kid (Sirf Ruhi ke Liye) was pushed aside mercilessly ... CVs ... you could have at least spared this part ...

I cannot find a single piece of scene which was good, not even the breakdown of Raman because of the sheer senselessness of this track ... the actors were brilliant ... they will deliver what they are presented ... but I urge the people in the forum who have some connection with the CVs/Sonal Jaffer/Ekta Kapoor/Directors/Production House ... I dunno who else ...

I have only one thing to say ... as a viewer ... I have written posts where I have written CVs,Take a BOW. Today, I openly say, I am DISAPPOINTED in your writing and this entire track for absolutely butchering the essence of the protagonist.

As I said earlier, a big CHEEE for ruining this show for me.


Wrote the crux behind the reason of my frustration on page 4 as well ...

Completly agree u write my thoughts
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: shivani_gupta

even m not liking this track...its a typical ekta kapoor track...😡😡😡 don't want YHM to lose its originality...😭😭😭 poor ruhi...she got ignored by both her parents...😭

Agree typicall ekta serial😡😡😡 waiing for raman shagun adi ruhi reunion nowv for adi,s sake Bakwaaas
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49
Completely agree with your post.
I also think it sets a really bad example and reinforces some stereotypes in that women also bitch about their husbands. Sorry but the way Ishita is shown to bitch and moan to her friends constantly about Raman is really bad. I would never dream of talking about my husband negatively to anyone to be honest because if there is an issue I discuss it with my husband not go and openly bitch about his faults in front of others.

Her character constantly goes on about how Raman does not care for her but has she thought how careing she is when she speaks about him the way she does. She lacks complete understanding and emotional intelligence to understand why Raman reacts the way he does.

I know this is an entertainment show but this track is so bad in so many ways.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I was shocked seeing Ishita mildly bitching about her husband to Mani and this was not the first time. She had committed some serious blunders,so her bitchiness might have been overlooked by many viewers. But this is so UNLIKE Ishita. CVs shouldn't have butchered Ishita's character this far for the sake of added drama.

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