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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: rutu83

i agree with the post to certain degree- though i don't agree that raman is the only one working on their marriage, i do agree that raman will never be a priority for ishita. ruhi always has and always will be a priority for her. so yes, shagun is adi's mom and ishita is ruhi's. but like i said, i don't think ishita is the one to blame for their "loveless" marriage. it's not that raman is working on their marriage while ishita is not. it's really more the case that neither is truly working on their marriage.


Ruhi was but not now. 😆 Ishita's only priority is now doing social services or jagga jassosi work and hanging out with Mani.😆 She hardly spends any time with Ruhi. Even Raman nowadays prepares Ruhi for school in the morning most of the times.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Unfortunately nobody can coerce some people into liking or accepting or celebrating Ishita Bhalla. I appreciate her when I think she deserves it i have done so many many times. Despite majority on this forum being women if they are unable to identify with her but instead identify with the male lead then there must be something seriously wrong with the way her character has been structured
You yourself essayed the 10s of things SHE has done for Raman
way more in your opinion than he has
YET why do people feel the urge to sympathize with him?

P.S. As far as Shaguns arrival later on Ramans insistence... I have to remind you that Ishita brought her home not too long ago. Ishita's overarching need for nobility dilutes most of the realism in her personality IMO

Edited by Nisha0604 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
It's not a case of unnecessary support for Raman. He just happens to be the one requiring it the most right now. But yeah, tomorrow if Shagun gets dumped royally (which Im afraid, she will) AND Raman gets into the previous, "Mere Adi ka kya hoga? Kahan jayenge Shagun aur Adi" mode, then I will feel like killing him as well.
Coz I felt superbly horrible when Raman went off to the outskirts of Delhi with Shagun and his kids, for a picnic. The look on Ishita's face when he said he had to take Adi out coz his son wanted to spend time with him, that was horrible and am sure our hearts went out to her.

But right now, she is acting too goody-goody, too indifferent towards Raman, a tad bit of a know-it-all, not paying any heed to anybody's else's concerns but hers. And of Course, MANI. Right now she is just acting stupidly and getting on our nerves :p
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Posted: 10 years ago
@tm..their marriage is not normal one but conditional one ..ruhi is the reason for their marriage ..ishita married Raman for ruhi only and Raman for custody of ruhi ..ishita wanted a happy normal life for ruhi ..and she started to do that after marriage ..family was not her responsibility but she did whatever she can ..she is the one who initiated relation with Raman and family ..till sanjana fiasco bhallas not truly accepted her as family member ( I think this because they didn't share mihir-shagun secret with her )..but she from starting accepted everyone slowly slowly as her own family (by heart) ..thatsy she said Mrs iyer/her own mom so many times do not interfere in her( ishita) family matter..Raman also started to accept all from iyer house but after ishita ..he show ishita was doing for his family then he ..he also did so many good things for iyers ..iyers accepted him as their family member from day one ..
After Raman gave her so many signals ??? Raman always give her negative vibes in that matter ..always taunt her about her look , about her choices and so so more ..two times fake confession.. He has problem with her in everything ( look, cloths,not beautiful enough, make fun of her profession etc..). Always make her feel like he isnt interested in her and whatever he is doing is because she is the mother of ruhi ..how u feel if your partner make u feel like unwanted or never interested in u !!! Instead of expressing your feelings to him u try to hide it .that is the case here ..
Raman's words say something else and actions say something else ..and ishita has her past experience ( bad) which is enough for her to hide her feelings ..and top of all his ex is always their to give ishita inferiority complex.. She directly asked Raman so many times about her doubts that Raman still loves shagun but Raman never directly cleared it ..but when Raman asked about subbu then ishita cleared his all doubts ..so its easy for Raman to step fwd in their relation but ishita needs some direct talk about Raman's feelings about shagun ..then im sure ishita will step fwd with him in their relationship..


Ishita never wanted to change Raman to love her ..she is already in love with him just like Raman ..if she was telling him something which she doesn't like then what is wrong in that ..married life is not like fairy tale story ..it give and take ..adjustments.. Some compromises ..both has to do that then their life's cart will work properly. Ishita told Raman whatever she doesn't like now if Raman has any problem then he can tell her..
Actually this is the first step from them towards becoming hubby-wifey(truly) ..demand ..acceptations..anger..mad ( here ishita got mad when she learned about Raman's accident and Raman got mad when he show goons r trying to kidnap ishita )..
Then how Raman is alone in this marriage with ishita ..nor ishita .ishita gave Raman a peaceful happy family life wchic was mess before ..he was alone not anymore.. They have difference of opinion but they reached to the point where they r together..
This is my POV ..both did mistakes and both did good things ..both r not flawless..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: .Ranju.

Its interesting to see how people conveniently ignore what Ishita has done to Raman in the verge of proving Raman is the best!! Of course he is the best but Ishita is not the worst!! Some comments are really like she has not done anything to him! Mending ways in marriage doesnt mean you are losing yourself and thats what makes a couple compatible. There is no wrong if a wife has expectations from her husband and husband has expectations from her wife!! Hasnt she took care of him? Has she ever told any bad about him to Ruhi? She is the one because of whom Ruhi and Raman came close and became the best daughter-father duo. Yes initially everything started because of Ruhi. If she wasnt working on towards her marriage she would not have done anything to Raman's family or Raman himself!! What is wrong if I expect my husband to talk to me nicely and compliment me? Has Ishita ever asked anything to Raman till now? She has always defended Raman infront of Shagun and Ashok.

Why cant she confide her feelings to her best friend, be it male or female.When Raman has always said mujhe farak nahi padta. She liked when she felt yes it does matter to him and he is jealous. How did it make her insensitive? If someone is praising other person infront of you it doesnt mean that they are de meaning you. Somethings are need to be expressed. Why Ishita should always understand Raman's intentions behind his rudeness? Why cant once he come clean and tell what he feels? Its the same Ishita who ran like a mad when the hotel where Raman was staying had fire accident. That time they were just friends!! Now she has strong feelings for him, definitely fake accident would make her angry.
Ishita has never shown sulking about the past. She lives her life as it comes. She always hides her pain behind her smile. She always looks for positive amidst the bad things happening. The small little things which Ishita does for Raman makes him happy like cooking, arranging his clothes!! If you think any daadi amma can do taking care of him, his kids and his family. Then he better keep one!!
Now since Raman is happy and content in life, Ishita is not required who brought that to him!! Great logic😊


Interesting indeed and agreeing Ishita doesn't love him. Its only "shaart" for her. So Raman must have been happy and content before Ishita. Ishita should stay quiet and take EVERYTHING from Raman, his taunts his anger which I am sure every girl here would love to get from their husband, then only she can prove that she truly loves him. Raman has a problem with her culture, dress sense, her selfless nature, talking, looks. and complains or demand changes too, but i m sure its ok for him.

We can claim and demand from our spouse and why not thats how it should be too..but here in IshRa, Ishita can't and should not. great logic 😊




Edited by i5hy - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
ishita is not acting goody goody, she is good. it is becoz of her, raman is happy now. she was always his support and strength, when they accused raman of not wanting a girl child. etc. the best part is she never expects anything in return. raman is also very good. the perfect guy of ishita. he is also very supportive of ishita. in short they both are good. enough of this bashing guys. i love both raman and ishita and their pair.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Haila ye kab hua?
May be I am watching a different YHM but I see them in love and increasing companionship.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Nisha0604

Panthera

Unfortunately nobody can coerce people into liking or accepting or celebrating Ishita Bhalla. I appreciate her when I think she deserves it i have done so many many times. Despite majority on this forum being women if they are unable to identify with her but instead identify with the male lead then there must be something seriously wrong with the way her character has been structured
You yourself essayed the 10s of things SHE has done for Raman
way more in your opinion than he has
YET why do people feel the urge to sympathize with him?

P.S. As far as Shaguns arrival later on Ramans insistence... I have to remind you that Ishita brought her home not too long ago. Ishita's overarching need for nobility dilutes most of the realism in her personality IMO


I have seen this before, where there is by many, over zealous and often blind one sided identification with the male compounded by female lead character assasination...and yet lead characters "romantic moments" are demanded!!😆

Yes there are some characteristics they all have in all shows. As for the majority not being able to identify with her even though they too are females has nothing to do with female solidarity or how teh character is penned, and more to do with cultural norms and indian soap indoctrination. Kekta and co know that most women are their own worst enemies. Just have a good looking male lead with a tragic past and all his jackassry will be justified, ignored or admired. Let me add here that raman is better than most. Wayyy better. He has a good heart but that doesn't mean he hasn't been shown to treat ishita like a verbal punchbag on a daily basis. Oh and just coz uptil now ishita hasn't minded doesn't make it right.

As for shagun's arrival back into puttar's life...I don't get your point. To me it implies coz she brought a drunk shagun home for one night, it will be her fault that shagun is back in puttar's life...when it happens.

There is plenty I don't like about how ishita behaves, not just puttar but I don't justify what I don't like about her by vilifying puttar! Am not saying you do I hasten to add. But a lot here do.
Edited by Panthera - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Eyes-Wide-Shut

Haila ye kab hua?

May be I am watching a different YHM but I see them in love and increasing companionship.



😆 😆 I tell ya!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
you're absolutely right. when she is expecting him to lover her then she also has to do somethiing for him right. Ishita always wants raman do whatever she wants, but most of the time her jusdgement fails. In mihir mms, mihir ki love, his sister case even in ammas court case raman didn't do wrong. actually her judgement is wrong. even in ruhi case too. she knows he never speaks up what he is doing but till now he was never wrong. even in bracelet scene, anyone in his place feels jelousy. even she felt jelous when she heard form sarika. he honestly tried to apolozise too. now also she will do something nonsense with this jasoosi work.

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