YHM -Daily Episode Discussions and Live Updates Thread #26 - Page 118

Originally posted by: Aeryn

It was not always like this, there is a definite change between before and after accident track. She has been transformed into a typical SP bahu. There's no flow in her reactions IMO.

If Raman needs to tell it clearly to get her interested in her marriage at this stage then it is very disappointing. There goes my wish of finally seeing leads working in tandem in their relationship

It's always one or the other doing all the work and the wooing, it appears incredibly one sided. I simply hate and I am seriously tired of this trend 🤢

YHM seemed different with two mature people but alas it has gone down the drains *sigh*

no ways Aeryn🤢🤢🤢🤢
I DON'T WANT HIM GO FORWARD ANYMORE WITH HER IN THIS SITUATION

Be a MAN. he has not gone for any woman for 6 years so why now ? 🤢

if he goes anymore, downfall to drain and vain of RAMAN 🤢😭😭😭
if he talks about that, that would be complete gross, lust, . he will be not different from perv 🤢🤢

Aeryn,

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

lol, glorifying 😆


For my justification: I believe it depends upon each human how that person reacts to situation that he is put under. some person could have killed his wife if he sees her with another man, some leave happily and some grow with hate towards all women, some may try to make bankrupt and take revenge . we can't say that if they become negative that is bad. they become victim of disaster that s it. how they will react it depends up on individuality , am not saying that he was right to his reactions nor I am saying that he was wrong to react like that. but I don't blame him too the way he reacted.

i saw growth in this character from worst to try to become human and good father

even I have said he was wrong when he din share about adi and he was wrong to take shagun in picnic and other few many times. who says he was always right ? the thing I want to say that shaping of his characterization is not lacking consistency . he makes mistakes but he redeems too.

He was always guilty when he started to hide truth. his redemption is not still over . he is still facing rejections. what was needed more? walking on fire coals?

if he is not only having grey past so not ishita who can't conceive . has she ever tried anymore to consult any doctor as 2nd opinion?

@bold: if she din think marriage beyond "ruhi ke liye" she would not have cried like hell when raman asked her for picnic. why she told: there is no result to cry for him!! i clearly saw ishita madly in love with him.

the points you are trying to say about ishita is not real same do I. agreed both have flaws too but when he has taken his initials to work on marriage she is not supporting him. even if she was wrong in perv, he still supported her and trusted her to no end. why she can't give same trust to him?


of course both were wrong in past but who is showing progress in their graph that is important.

here I see Ishita back to square one. no progress in her thoughts for him at all. she still puts him on same page with perv when it comes to character .

Well, we clearly see things differently. I can't give him any benefit of doubt for how he behaved. If one believes one thing, the same should be applied to them as well.
Coming to the growth in his character, yes there has been a lot of growth in his character. There a few instances which disappoint me, but yes his character has changed a lot from what it was before.
Coming to the redemption, well I have never liked any of the redemption tracks. I never saw his majboori jaap as his guilt.. And I don't understand what you mean by rejections.? If its related to Adi, well that's how that kid is.

As for the Ishita second opinion thing, I would blame the cv's for that. Its them who pulls the strings.!

Well, she cried for him. Yes. She ran to check if he was safe when the fire fiasco happened, it is obviously love. But when have either of them ever acknowledged their changing emotions, if not love. He said ILU to her for the second time, he took is back immediately with another one liner. The whole presidency track, he accepted it that he did it for her, but again, didnt they cover it up in their ruhi ke liye rant.? Ishita has also done everything for him but like I said, they have never openly acknowledged it. They should. CV's never show consistency in their relationship.

Coming to Ishita not trusting him, well I have already said it.. I am disappointed with that as well. She was ready to trust him when it was her own sis speaking against Raman, she fought with Mihika. But now she chooses to believe a random stranger. t was obviously disappointing

Peace.! 😊

Originally posted by: redwine1

This discussion has veered to what we want to see .. but thats not what we were discussing .. we were discussing the TRACK .. & how we read it ..

Whether its right or wrong .. has the character Ishita been butchered .. thats not what we discussed at all ...

If one would talk about right & wrong this story would not start .. WHICH PARENT PUSHES THEIR CHILD TO MARRY A PERSON ... WHOM SHE HATES ... WHO HAS RAISED HIS HAND ON THE WOMAN IN FRONT OF HER FAMILY >> > A MAN WHO THINKS THE WOMAN IS CHARACTERLESS >>> A MAN WHO THINKS THE WOMAN IS A GOLD DIGGER ..

I guess thats another discussion .. what we were talking about was the reveal of Shagun .. & its relevance to the track .. & exactly what this track is all about ..

Like u personally i would like to see this story go in so many ways .. but unfortunately or fortunately i don't write this story .. its written by one Sonali Jaffar .. its how she wants the story to progress which is the question here ..

Now for me resolution of this scene yesterday would be IF ISHITA STANDS UP TOMORROW & SLAPS SHAGUN .. that would be what i would like to see .. it shows her resolution of the past .. & it also shows she has realised how she was manipulated .. NOW ur GUESS is as good as mine if this is played out 😛😉

Well, we clearly see things differently. I can't give him any benefit of doubt for how he behaved. If one believes one thing, the same should be applied to them as well.
Coming to the growth in his character, yes there has been a lot of growth in his character. There a few instances which disappoint me, but yes his character has changed a lot from what it was before.
Coming to the redemption, well I have never liked any of the redemption tracks. I never saw his majboori jaap as his guilt.. And I don't understand what you mean by rejections.? If its related to Adi, well that's how that kid is.

As for the Ishita second opinion thing, I would blame the cv's for that. Its them who pulls the strings.!

Well, she cried for him. Yes. She ran to check if he was safe when the fire fiasco happened, it is obviously love. But when have either of them ever acknowledged their changing emotions, if not love. He said ILU to her for the second time, he took is back immediately with another one liner. The whole presidency track, he accepted it that he did it for her, but again, didnt they cover it up in their ruhi ke liye rant.? Ishita has also done everything for him but like I said, they have never openly acknowledged it. They should. CV's never show consistency in their relationship.

Coming to Ishita not trusting him, well I have already said it.. I am disappointed with that as well. She was ready to trust him when it was her own sis speaking against Raman, she fought with Mihika. But now she chooses to believe a random stranger. t was obviously disappointing

Peace.! 😊

Originally posted by: redwine1

Brilliantly put Ishra .. Totally agree wit u

She trusts him on so many counts ... then why when a random stranger says something about being his past love .. she does a 2 min discussion within herself & is ready to believe her ..??

This is obviously BIG .. so why show such a thing .. & whats the only logical explanation one can draw from this ?

I really love your interpretations of the story.. So I would let you do the honor of explaining that.. 😳
I am sure yours would be better than mine..😆

Originally posted by: pomegranate

As shown in the last few episodes, Ishita is not the brightest crayon in the box. raman needs to clearly spell it out to her that he is over shagun. I'm hoping the recent events will finally give her a much needed reality check and she will stop interfering in other people's business. being good does not mean getting oneself into trouble.

Originally posted by: redwine1

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">This is not about Ishita being right or wrong .. at least i don't ever comment on moral grounds .. personally how we one would react to a situation is very different from how a story or reel would react to it ..</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Whether ishita is dumb .. insecure .. or whatever ..</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Whether ishita shud believe raman is over his past or not is not what v r saying here at all ..whether thats right or wrong ..</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">What we are saying .. is THIS IS OUR INTERPRETATION OF WHY THE STORY IS MOVING IN THIS WAY ,.</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">now this is my explanation .. this track is about romance .. & for romance to progress it needs a resolution of past .. This is simply what i have read of the track</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Now u may of course have a different reading of the same .. would love to hear what u feel this trck about ... & why is Ishita behaving like she is .. ???</font>

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">So please share what u think this track is about ..?? why did the makers show this reveal of Shagun .. would love to hear ur take on the Sanjana & Shagun & PP saga .. ??</font>

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Sorry to butt in.. but this is --- Perfect -- Ruby...
And below is my opinion - which everyone is free to disagree
Every character in the tale is imperfect in their own way
Eg. Bala was supposed to be the most sensible right -
1. would he call and ask his SIL to come alone at night in a place like delhi
2. Would he invite Shagun(in the name of Adi) the cvs could have shown him bringing Adi and not Shagun.. But why was it done..
because the track had to culminate in the beginning of Romance.. there is a long way to go for LOVE...

We seem to be confusing between lack of communication as trust issues.

Again it depends on whose shoes we are in.. every character can perceive and be perceived differently
No one is entirely Right or Wrong.

It is not about any of the characters - it is about the changing relationship between the characters.
Each track is about that - only about moving Ahead in the relationship..

Ruby

Originally posted by: -IshRaDivAn-

Well, we clearly see things differently. I can't give him any benefit of doubt for how he behaved. If one believes one thing, the same should be applied to them as well.
Coming to the growth in his character, yes there has been a lot of growth in his character. There a few instances which disappoint me, but yes his character has changed a lot from what it was before.
Coming to the redemption, well I have never liked any of the redemption tracks. I never saw his majboori jaap as his guilt.. And I don't understand what you mean by rejections.? If its related to Adi, well that's how that kid is.

As for the Ishita second opinion thing, I would blame the cv's for that. Its them who pulls the strings.!

Well, she cried for him. Yes. She ran to check if he was safe when the fire fiasco happened, it is obviously love. But when have either of them ever acknowledged their changing emotions, if not love. He said ILU to her for the second time, he took is back immediately with another one liner. The whole presidency track, he accepted it that he did it for her, but again, didnt they cover it up in their ruhi ke liye rant.? Ishita has also done everything for him but like I said, they have never openly acknowledged it. They should. CV's never show consistency in their relationship.

Coming to Ishita not trusting him, well I have already said it.. I am disappointed with that as well. She was ready to trust him when it was her own sis speaking against Raman, she fought with Mihika. But now she chooses to believe a random stranger. t was obviously disappointing

Peace.! 😊

Like I said I don't call it wrong or right. it s depends upon individuality how person reacts. and that was showed as his initial characterization till his redemption started after ruhi showed him ignorance. same goes for her. but as I said I don't see her graph changing status anymore from accident track.

he always knew that he s wrong and he has do that because he wanted to save his kid from punishment and he thought that his kid is innocent. he never had thought that he is on the path of becoming criminal till he got call from principle. he din wait for moment and rushed to her clinic to confess. and guilt of hiding truth was only saving his character. he knew he is wrong and he is human. here she is always claiming that she is right. that is completely out of realism for me. human always make mistake and learn from that.

yes I agree that ILU for 2nd time has disappointed me . of course this kinda few things are not going with shape but that are not comparable to what she is doing right now from perv track. But when he says he wants to make new memory and he wants her to become his strength was not for ruhi ke liye, any mature woman can understand it. name plate was not for ruhi ke liye. "biwi ho tum meri" was not for ruhi k liye. even mihika too passed his message that he wanted to spend time with just her. was not it excluding ruhi k liye?

anyways, her shaping has no consistency for me that was showed in starting and till accident track. I felt bad for her when she cried in accident track. why i feel to shaken her up even if she is shown to do for sab ki bhali k liye ? that makes the difference. why we felt that she deserved raman s out burst !!! why we felt right when raman got slap from toshi ?

yes she was about to acknoledge to bala just before hotel was caught in fire. so I can't ignore that she had not looked up to the marriage outside their " ruhi ke liye " rant..even she taunted him that what is our contract about "just for ruhi ke liye" , he said at that time that she has full right to ask him. what was for that? he had already given her status of wife who has right to question him. that was not even in case when he had stayed at shagun s room in hotel . I see here his changing thoughts for her and promoting her to next level.

why turning back to square one for one character and other going on and on developing desires ?

anyways agree with disagree