CHEE ... My analysis from a WOMAN's POV - Page 4

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow ..you have indeed written and articulated your point of view so well. Well for a minute I even completely agree with your portrayal of Ishita ..But given the past instances where she has had normal reactions, this behavior seemed rather inconsistent.
She has even lamented over the fact that she cannot give Raman kids...she cannot make her "mummy-ji" happy by giving her kids of her own ..Well when it was natural to consider the possibility of having kids with her husband ...finding her husband lying next to her and blurting out a "chee" seemed rather inconsistent...
Well you can hug a shirtless wet Raman and a Raman lying asleep next to you makes you say "chee" is kind of really not in keeping with her character...Though I must say by way of your post you have really given the CVs a winning chance in a court where one could argue if her reaction was warranted or not!!! I'm sure the CVs didn't give it as much thought before they wrote the dialogue...
Also, I don't see why they make such a big deal about sleeping on the same bed...you don't automatically indulge in love making if you are on the same bed!! ..Fine, accidentally you might touch the other ..but in a huge King Size bed that they have - that also is rather rare..the whole couch sleeping thing seems so farce...why not park some pillows in between and split up the bed...Anyway it's not like they don't touch each other from a non-sexual angle! ..so if that happens during sleep I'm sure they can have no qualms about it ...!
Edited by vandana21 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
Beautifully analysed dear. I dint find that chee thing OTT or meaningless. I found that cute. But, your analysis put another emphasis on that scene.
Brilliant.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy



bang on Aeryn, I really felt and in fact few here also expected ishita will be ahead in confession realization. but eventually he went ahead and it was in very convincing way from his side despite he was already having bed with ex and kids and the way his strong hate was shown in starting we din expect him initiating whereas she was still fresh in terms of intimacy.

of course both have acknowledge about their inner beauty as human and as a partner but physical comments too matter when it comes to intimacy

i was hesitate to put that point but really I don't remember single incident of her appreciating him calling on face or calling behind that he is attractive !! she has mocked him calling less height and eventually once defending in front of vandu that he is not short . even raman himself admitted in front of her that you should be proud your husband is still hot and happening( I don't remember clear words thou) she just nodded agree as if her ego was getting hurt to appreciate him or as if she does not care I really could not get meaning of that reaction 😲 just in last shower scene she called khadoos shakl. nothing more about REAL comments about him


Zener - it's very odd

Agree with you that both have recognized and appreciated the inner beauty of the other.
Raman has gone a step further by appreciating Ishita's outer beauty too. He is not immune to her in that way.

But Ishita on one side she is in love with him but on other side apart from instances when I feel it's more the circumstance/situation that has her feeling the intimacy than the man himself, there's nothing.

Is it even possible for a woman in love to be completely content with a platonic relationship, not beeing aware, affected by his physical attractiveness unless pushed into compromising situation? 😕
Ishita is shown being too dense in that department, she seems completely immune to the opposite sex...

She is a mature, educated, modern woman...why is she shown being so 'prude' (for lack of better word) ?

The only indication that she finds him to her liking was the recent comparison of him being like teekha mirchi in the car scene after the shower incident but bas...




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Posted: 10 years ago
#34
@bhairavi if am not mistaking,
true. rice scene her reaction was much more convincing. she was rejected with 12 years baggage at that time too .
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Colt.Pixy

@bhairavi if am not mistaking,
true. rice scene her reaction was much more convincing. she was rejected with 12 years baggage at that time too .

Yup Zene right?😊..yes ..rice scene..and even all her reactions later...for that point in their relationship were justified. ..and handled with a sense of humor too
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36
Another post Bhanu. Aren't you on fire today!!!! You really got into Ishita's mind there. I must say am not enjoying YHM too much right now, but your positive posts are a soothing balm to my boredom. You know, here in Fiji we say chi or chi chi to express admiration. So if you see an attractive person or someone is wearing fancy clothes, or has a fancy car, you say chi to express wow. So personally, I don't have an issue with chee. Just heard it as chi instead. 😆 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

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Hey Bhanu thanks for making this post honestly I can see people hate the chee thing but I took it with a pinch of salt and had two interpretations for it.

the first one is short and funny - Ishita had a mental image of Raman' w0rds come in her mind making her say the word Chee- her appa coming onto Raman cannot inspire any other word from her 😆

Next - honestly I am more put off with Raman' lines here - he could have said he was merely sleeping and doing nothing else. I can even understand him being annoyed with the questioning since he deflected his answer by relating the incident with Appa as he clearly didn't like being questioned by his wife why did he sleep beside her but the words he used next didnt sit right with me. About not considering herself some hoor and that he isn't even interested in doing anything to her. His callous offhand remarks made in rudeness are actually impacting Ishita and hence her demand the other day his words should be sweet too not just his actions.

That word was also a way of her rejection of his idea - that she would want to come onto him or want him close in any way because honestly here Ishita is the one who is more scared than Raman in my opinion.

He says I Love You offhandedly and takes it back just as easily - she on the other hand hasn't so much as held his hand to show off to anyone or to assert her right over him how can she when he dismisses her time and again? Yes he does sweet gestures like resign for her, get the nameplate for her but all of that is done openly... like you said the CVs are tackling issues one by one and making it be known to the world or the villains in general they are a single unit now not two independent, individuals who work exclusive of each other even in matters that concern them both and their families - but one.

Like how Ishita recently told Param as long as they are together she and Raman are invincible. Now with Shagun coming home she would see the nameplate and perhaps even certain interaction/s which would assure her that indeed Raman isn't bluffing anymore when it comes to his marriage with Ishita like he did initially or that recently when he chose to give that resignation it was because he truly has developed feelings for Ishita which is what I think is the point of getting her home like this.

But, BUT - Like you said the dynamics in a marriage inside the bedroom are a different thing - that equation has to change and for that Raman has to stop being so rude and dismissive of Ishita as a woman to begin with. He cannot expect her to reciprocate in any manner or be cool about sleeping besides him if he keeps on rejecting her even now as a woman or makes it come across she isn't the least bit attractive to him or that he considers her plain.

He need not go all Romeo on her but he should be considerate of how he treats her.

People assume Ishita is an idiot and what not when it comes to NOT understanding Raman' feelings but can you really blame her? Has she once felt in the confines of her room she is special to Raman.

The man was not even willing to share his cupboard with her and she had to live out of her suitcase for ages before she got a little space and even after that when she came back to the home post the Pervy fiasco Raman made it seem he doesn't like her clothes with his... even now on the bathrobe scene day he says how a Madrasan' clothes are in his cupboard... he gives her a nameplate outside the home - proclaims to the world she is his... but inside their own room he makes it seem he cannot wait to be as far from her as possible and suddenly one night he plops down next to her on a small mattress and expects her to be cool about it.

But as usual Raman can do no wrong almost - ah well lets see what causes the dynamics inside to change - what actually causes the fear to give away... cos from the way I see it inside their room with only each other around - they are scared - of themselves and each other but mostly the power that the other could get over them should they hand that out.

These two come with baggages of their own - and while his is a burden to bear - facing infidelity after marriage, post two kids and a divorce hers isn't any less too.

She has had a heartbreak, countless rejections and always the reminders of her infertility to bear .

Also why do people forget her relationship with Subu lasted twice as long as Raman' marriage to0 - 12 years vs. 6 years ... is it any wonder she is taking it slower here - especially when the man she is now dealing with keeps on changing lanes and is himself inconsistent in his approach and feelings for her or in the manner he treats her - cos inside the bedroom and outside he is two different people and unless these two merge - she wont be able to move ahead too.


Aani ... 👏🤗 .. You exactly took it from where I had left. In one sentence, you nailed it.

Going into the insides of the bedroom, when a couple consummates their marriage, it is called making love ... Yes, technically it is s*x, but the difference comes from the treatment. In that particular moment, a woman is ready to give everything to her man because he makes her feel beautiful, a perfect woman, the only woman he desires for. He admires her femininity which is the first step of intimacy. Of course, contrary to the popular belief, it applies to both the parties. Men are no robots. They are equally emotional as women, the only difference is the way they express them.

Anyway, getting back to the topic of Ishita ... when did Raman make her feel like a woman, a beautiful one at that? He has time and again taunted her even if it is in good humor.
Lets face it, how many women in this forum will agree with me that when they select a dress, they do imagine their husband/boyfriend/someone special's reaction at that ...
A woman needs to be appreciated for her femininity which is definitely missing at this point in their relationship.

Imagine the scene where she thought of him as her Pati ... it gave her goosebumps ... because she had never thought that he can be anything more than Ruhi's Dad to her ... so the very thought made her blush ... yes a woman's blush because she felt the desire ... a desire of a woman.

However, to begin with in yesterday's scene, she was sleeping after an argument with her husband who blamed her mother for the fiasco and slept in usual spot immediately and as soon as she woke up, the last thing she could expect was him in front of her.
So her reaction was acceptable to me.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veeann

Another post Bhanu. Aren't you on fire today!!!! You really got into Ishita's mind there. I must say am not enjoying YHM too much right now, but your positive posts are a soothing balm to my boredom. You know, here in Fiji we say chi or chi chi to express admiration. So if you see an attractive person or someone is wearing fancy clothes, or has a fancy car, you say chi to express wow. So personally, I don't have an issue with chee. Just heard it as chi instead.😆😆



🤣 so next time my husband tries to hug me I am gonna b like "chee" 😆
Btw positive post 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Great articulation Bhanu👏...i am amazed really with the amount of talent on this forum. And glad for that..esp when the show ain't giving any kicks😊.

While I agree with you conceptually...a character like Ishita who comes with her kind of insecurities and baggage may react this way. But my grouse lies with the inconsistency of it all.
Rewind to march when IshRa were married for less than a month. ..and Ishita thought Raman had written the let's start fresh notes. That one episode of her reactions..for a man she hardly knew..and probably hated...we're pretty darn accurate and well nuanced...she still had confusion...embarrassment. ..anxiousness...fear...but with a hint of anticipation and shyness. That feeling of how the next step in their relationship might be. ..was very well potrayed.

Now..cut to 5 months from then...her husband has almost told her 'the let's start fresh' dialogue when he said we will make our memories. .. yours and mine. He doesn't leave a occasion to put you on a pedestal. ..even though he taunts you. ..but his actions speak km louder than words...and better still she has started reading his reactions and she can sense his awkwardness and the need for more..ie the shower scene and the button scene. And the best part is that she also acknowledges that something different is happening to her when she thinks of him n now.
And then her reaction after seeing her husband next to her?😕...i can still buy the shock when she woke up...and her reaction prompted his defense mechanism. ..all the snide remarks...but Tthen after he left...why did she react with shame? If that was really shame...ashamed of what? Ideally ..yes she should have been embarassed...maybe a Lil confused since she was getting mixed signals...but she is at a stage where deep inside she should be thrilled with the attention. Physical intimacy is only the most logical and natural step now...even for the most damaged individuals.
Only my pov here...😊


@bold - exactly. Ishra have connected emotionally, they are in love with each other.

However much we want to romanticize relationships, truth is when in love the feeling of showing said love physically is completely natural, normal...the physical aspect in a couple's relation is important too. So much in fact that sexual incompatibility between a couple is considered a valid reason to apply for divorce!

We are at a point in Ishra relationship that physical awareness should be at its max so having Ishita still content with a platonic relation and not looking for attention of that kind, not being a bit excited albeit shy and nervous is unbelievable
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: btalwar


Aani ... 👏🤗 .. You exactly took it from where I had left. In one sentence, you nailed it.

Going into the insides of the bedroom, when a couple consummates their marriage, it is called making love ... Yes, technically it is s*x, but the difference comes from the treatment. In that particular moment, a woman is ready to give everything to her man because he makes her feel beautiful, a perfect woman, the only woman he desires for. He admires her femininity which is the first step of intimacy. Of course, contrary to the popular belief, it applies to both the parties. Men are no robots. They are equally emotional as women, the only difference is the way they express them.

Anyway, getting back to the topic of Ishita ... when did Raman make her feel like a woman, a beautiful one at that? He has time and again taunted her even if it is in good humor.
Lets face it, how many women in this forum will agree with me that when they select a dress, they do imagine their husband/boyfriend/someone special's reaction at that ...
A woman needs to be appreciated for her femininity which is definitely missing at this point in their relationship.

Imagine the scene where she thought of him as her Pati ... it gave her goosebumps ... because she had never thought that he can be anything more than Ruhi's Dad to her ... so the very thought made her blush ... yes a woman's blush because she felt the desire ... a desire of a woman.

However, to begin with in yesterday's scene, she was sleeping after an argument with her husband who blamed her mother for the fiasco and slept in usual spot immediately and as soon as she woke up, the last thing she could expect was him in front of her.
So her reaction was acceptable to me.


@red she was highly disappointed after wearing that green dress when she knew that Raman had left for mumbai? Was that only to show him that she can fit in size S?

@Blue Raman has always appreciated her physical beauty through eyes, indirect jibes or actions green dress, blue dress (sona which is an exact description of Ishita), Mihir sangeet etc

Y was the need for Ishita to say "Bijliyan gir chuki hai barish aane ki der hai " if she was not flirting with him and does not find him physically attractive. Just to rile him up?

i agree Raman is too harsh n insensitive in his taunts but Ishita never says u r going overboard with them she listens to it, last was when he said tumhari awaz kaano mein chubti hai. 😆

I know cvs r prolonging the so called confession for TRP's but it can't take back what progress has been shown in Ishra relationship so far and majority of the audience has that problem with the show now.

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