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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1



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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">Oh well if he doubted it during the fast ... he now knows she did it for him .. actually the doubt was cleared at the time of the fast opening itself .. when Ruhi mentions it at the end of the fast opening ritual ... she says ISHIMA fasted for u ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3" color="#0000ff">He knows it ... he is just confused ... u see he is developing feelings for her .. which he is trying his level best to mask ... now apni Ishita is giving no indication of any softer feelings to him .. ( hence the fight over the second sari) ... how is the poor confused soul to understand that the fires of passion are burning bright at both ends😉</font>


So agree about Raman being confused. Ishita never gave any proper indication to Raman about her feelings - something she is not aware about herself. The saree fight, poor Raman as he admitted from his own mouth was expecting a smile and got Ishita complaining about price instead. He was so disappointed.
Btw, grt post. Your post always makes everything clearer.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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fabulous post..👍🏼 love epi so much..
yesterday i was thinking why raman-adi-shagun scene..there was nothing new..but now i understood the need of that scene..

for me ugly=ashok
and bad = shagun..

i think param is not that bad as ashok who uses his own wife in the way ashok using shagun...otherwise both r like twin brothers...actually param is smarter than ashok who never discloses his evil plans infront of anybody...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanig123


Hey Shani .. whats in a age 😉

I am assuming u mean the reexchange of the gifts that happened in todays episode right ??

Well the gifts were given as a way to NOT CHANGE THE STATUS QUO in their marriage ... Raman gave her the bathrobe coz the intimacy got to him ... & she gave him the eye mask as she saw the desire in his eyes ...

Tonite by exchanging the gifts right back they SIGNALLED with LOUD TRUMPETS ( borrowing ur words) .. that they are ready for the STATUS QUO Change ...

She ogled him .. he was giving her full chance to ogle back at him ... Today in that room there was more than a simple nok jhok .. there was INTIMACY

Raman knows why he did the sacrifice of his post ... & Ishita knows why she did what she did today to reinstate Raman ... they both spoke about RUHI ... but both knew the other was lying ... it was in their eyes & their expressions ... The marriage status has changed ... & this change was brought out in the OPEN by shockingly ... ISHITA .. she did the FAST .. & she loudly proclaimed it was for RAMAN ...
no mention of "surf ruhi ke liye"

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KK2926

Very nice post @redwine. Your posts always make me think and analyse more. Infact i was going through your index today. Kudos to you!!! You are awesome!

Whats interesting is Param's character and your comment on it. Making me think :)
And what a cute scene we got today with Raman and Ishita. I did not understand the meaning of it until i read your post. Nice analysis!!!

YHM is a nice show and i am proud to be a fan of it. Kudos to writers!!! They are connecting the dots and taking the storyline very carefully.



Thank u so much for ur encouragement ...

I second ur sentiments on the writers completely .. they are indeed doing a dam Gud job .. 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful post dear. Love ur analysis on all that happens 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well Written Post . Writers read your last post n they included it in Ramans dialouge I think. You have differenciated the two women beautifully. Shagun is, will be a loser .She was the darkest past of Raman. Once She was the biggest weakness for him . Ishita is the real winner in all sense.She is the strength, support system to him. I enjoyed the Bathrobe scene but the meaning behind it now i know. Param loves his wife its a revelation of the night.. We cant trust his words. CV's showed the difference between Param n Ashok.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: felciya

Well Written Post . Writers read your last post n they included it in Ramans dialouge I think. You have differenciated the two women beautifully. Shagun is, will be a loser .She was the darkest past of Raman. Once She was the biggest weakness for him . Ishita is the real winner in all sense.She is the strength, support system to him. I enjoyed the Bathrobe scene but the meaning behind it now i know. Param loves his wife its a revelation of the night.. We cant trust his words. CV's showed the difference between Param n Ashok.


Thank u Felciya ...

LOL .. i doubt the writers have the time to go thru our posts .. but its a lovely thot ..😳... ur mention of the weakness of Raman is a fab connect ... one woman his weakness one woman his strength ... does the strength have the power to trounce a weakness ... this is definitely not about RaMAN .. but will his strength ISHITA .. have the power to keep the weakness away ... ooops ... no prediction zone ... 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Redwine yr analysis is so good. you have done a great job. I was also thinking why they showed adi and shagun yesterday but u analysed it. Today the regifting I was wondering why they showed it. now after reading yr post I get it. Even I was sad they didn't show much of the fast and the truth revealing everything was fast but after reading yr post I got what the writers r telling us. i was also little upset with raman during the fast when he thought she is fasting to show his mother. what do u think abt that?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

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Lovely post Ruby.

You know last night when Raman went on stage and thanked Ishita - I too connected it with his speech at the award function - how times have changed since then and so much is different now.

Then he had thanked a woman - his ex for his success and said she paved his path by leaving him behind - his words were how her leaving him had inspired him enough to make someone out of himself from an anonymous man - today the same man once again thanked another woman in his life... who at the time of that event was just a stranger to him in a way, a woman he despised no less and called her the woman to whom he credits his success, since she isn't only the motivation behind it but also the woman who is by his side while that happens.


Though what makes the most distinctive difference is the man himself - on that day he had conquered the world so to speak as he stood out and lifted a trophy that spelled his success as the very woman and man who betrayed him stood before him. Then even that recognition - something which he yearned for at the time to show his competence couldnt give him the thing he most wanted - peace of mind, some relief, the control over his life and the balm to his bruised heart since he returned home drunk out of his mind not by celebrating but loathing those two who to show him down resorted to another trickery.

It was the very woman who he ended up with at that night as he humiliated and berated her and finally passed out in her arms.

Tonight that woman has changed the man so much in a matter of months that he knew even if he was losing out on a post he had so much more to register in the column of gains/profit - peace of mind, some relief, a respite to which he owes his sanity, the happiness of his child and family and so much more. For her he could overlook all material gains since she gave him something all the riches combined in the world failed to do - she healed him and is continuing to do so with her gentle hands, her loving and caring presence.

I love how you have interpreted the planting scene too - to me what makes that scene symbolic is the way they had Raman trying to help Adi in planting that sap and later showing him how to go about it once he has placed the sapling.

It was the difference that stood out here - planting a sapling and giving birth to a child - taking care of the sapling once its planted is akin to nurturing it - which can be equated to raising a child. Raman a father in his suit was ready to sink to the ground and get his hands and clothes dirty to help his child - he was guiding Adi the way to do things while his mother rambled on about her spoiled manicure... how very much it states.

To raise a child you have to sink to your knees at times when they fall and cry, when they are hurt and injured yet you do it, when you raise an infant you are bound to get dirty in the process but it doesn't matter to a real parent who continues to pamper and love the child even when changing diapers or merely throwing the dirty napkin on which the little tyke just burped. Also you can only guide your child once they get a little older they have to do the works you can't make their choices for them, only assure your guidance and presence.


Regarding the robe scene - I found it so cute and in a way such a subtle indication of the change in equation once again. A man blushes as his wife accuses him of taking back his gift and returning hers as she says he won't change now would he? He doesn't deny or refute or say anything just shyly looks down and smiles even as she smiles while accusing him.

When she gave him that mask she had said some people don't bother to control their eyes and he too uttered similar words last night.

What was unsaid and yet confirmed was the right here though - his to look at her, admire her, long for her as he does the same - which she finally gave him as she admitted it to herself shyly looking at her blushing, smiling self - aisa kabhi nahi socha ke woh mere pati hai.

His teasing about disrobing and her reluctance to look at him while not leaving until the last moment so even affirmed desires and attraction that is mutual among them - he is acknowledging it now since he could admit in a very funny talk - jo mujhe dekhna hai nahi bhi dekhna hai jo dekha accha bhi lag raha hai ... and while she does feel the stirrings of that attraction - she is scared too - of a foreign feeling or perhaps the return of a known feeling but this time with a man she never thought would invoke those thoughts and desires within her.

And last but not the least your fav guy Param 😆 (you might be his only fan in that regard Ruby, though yeah I love Anurag since he makes us hate pervy)

it was a shock to say the least to hear the word wife and love in the same line as much as him being aghast at using a ghar ki aurat - this the same man who lusted for a woman who helped him, who happens to be the wife of his BIL

I think if he does change it would be when things would really hit him in the gut- his change would be to convince the same woman he speaks of loving that he isnt the same man anymore when finally she would be face to face with the reality that she continues to deny and delude herself.

The day she wakes up to reality might just be the day his world comes crashing down and it be too late for him to ever win back the love and affection of the woman who completely adores and practically worships him when all would be lost forever.

And Shagun definitely is gonna be the one woman who time and again would play a vital role in the lives of those she is connected to one way or another.

I rest my post here today LOL got carried away as usual.



Aani ... once again .. Ab kya bolun mein ... speechless

@ BOLD: isn't it interesting one scene but 2 different angles of take aways ... i looked at it from Shagun's angle & u looked at it from Raman's angle ...
Loved ur analogy of the sapling ... fantastic ...

Hell yaar it makes u love this show even more 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya83

Redwine yr analysis is so good. you have done a great job. I was also thinking why they showed adi and shagun yesterday but u analysed it. Today the regifting I was wondering why they showed it. now after reading yr post I get it. Even I was sad they didn't show much of the fast and the truth revealing everything was fast but after reading yr post I got what the writers r telling us. i was also little upset with raman during the fast when he thought she is fasting to show his mother. what do u think abt that?


On a funny note ... yaar young gabru jawan & he is not getting any .. poor boy is frustrated out of his minds .. add to it his wife is blowing hot hot hot these days ... pura mind mien chemical locha ho gaya hai ... 😉

Ok on a serious note ...

he feels she is fasting cause his mom has made her .. note the dialog in the room .. why is a madrasi keeping a punjabi fast ... & specially when the madrasi fast is so simple ...

the dialog delivery was not put well ... but his dialog starts with ... kamal ki hai yeh madrasan ... he is amazed that to what level will this woman go for his family ... a ritual which was purely Madrasi .. that too she has adapted to the PUNJABI way ... he is in awe of her ... now listen to the next line on Shagun ... a punjaban who knew the value of these rituals .. cud not undergo the same ... & an outsider valued his customs ...

After which he says ... its probably coz of her this nature that I am feeling good about my sacrifice for her ...

Unfortunately audio quality of YHM is pathetic .. & the BG score is very loud .. the people doing post production need to take cognisance of this ..hence the nuance in the dialogs are missed .. & the right INFLECTION is lost .. hence the furore in the forum ... 😉

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