Ravan Vs. Ram(an) - Page 3

Originally posted by: Reina1

First of all thank you, and I completely see where you are coming from. He does tend to make most of his mistakes where Adi is concerned, and this hurts Ishita. For this I hope Ishita knocks some sense into him, and makes him realize fully what he has done. He has broken his promise and her trust, which are two difficult things to get from a woman of Ishita's nature. Ishita has never made a grave mistake that calls from criticism, therefore, I have never had to defend her. She is always right. If a woman (in my pov) endures to the point where she is being tortured, then in that case her goodness in itself is a flaw. Because being passive when your self-respect is at stake, for me is also a mistake. But Ishita is not like that, she is strong-willed and will stand up for herself. She has before, and will, I am sure. She is a strong self-sufficient woman, and those ladies are often born from their own ashes. They think things through, and have a fiery resolve, which is why we don't see Ishita making as many stupid mistakes.

Raman as I said makes mistakes only where Adi is concerned. He does not blow his top off for everything like he used to before. Neither does he resolve to drinking and misbehaving. It is rare that we see him displace his anger at Ruhi, and when he did so today it was the whole 'adi bhaiyya ki kar' that sparked it (not an excuse, just a trigger). He is more respectful with everyone, and was actually making a conscious effort to change before this drama. So he is trying, he has setbacks, and I am not defending him, but I hope Ishita deals with him differently now so he fully realizes what he has done. He is always pampered, even today Toshiji was all worried as opposed to being mad at him for yelling at the poor girl. Ishita needs to fix this ASAP.

I don't agree with you that his preference to Adi is because he is a boy. I think if the roles were reversed and It was Ruhi who was his first-born that hated him, he would be just as desperate. I hope the CVs emphasize on that, because it does send a mixed message. It doesn't matter if a kid is a boy or a girl, they have the same potential for love and greatness. But I personally think, its just the case of wanting what you cannot have more that that which you have.

Originally posted by: DivAniTanni

That's the point...CVs are giving mixed signals through Raman's double standards. And, it's now more than enough the number of Raman's mistakes. It will go uncountable after few more mistakes of him. I hope, we don't have too see that day.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

to be honest tanni, I think there is a lot of focus on raman's mistakes because his mistakes concern adi and shagun- who is the main antagonist of the show. from the beginning, it has been about raman's past, and his flaws. I really am tired of so much focus being put on raman.

Firstly thank u for the post. It is refreshing to see posts where we are not bashing Raman to the core or supporting him blindly.

Raman's character is probably one of the most realistic in the show and that is why we all react to him so much, whether it is to bash him or support him. Yes, even though he is making the same mistake (hurting his loved ones for Adi), he has improved. Unlike the last time, when he was upset about falling down in Ruhi's eyes, this time he truly cares and regrets having to do this. He feels guilty for letting Ishita and the rest of the family down for Adi. He always redeems himself though and am sure he will do something to redeem himself this time as well, though it may take longer than before.

My only issue with Raman is his partiality when it comes to his kids. Though I understand that he tries to do everything for Adi because Adi hates him/is away from him. This is not an excuse for hurting Ruhi. Yes, Adi was affected the most in his divorce with Shagun but Ruhi was affected too, maybe even more than Adi. We haven't seen much of Adi's childhood with Raman but I assume that there were atleast a couple of years when he received the love of both parents. Ruhi has been deprived of a parent's love until few months back. Though she had a mother and a father, she grew up without them. She never or rarely met them and even when she did, she was mostly ignored. Then Ishita came in her life, became her mother and Raman too started expressing his love for her more openly. Slowly, she started blooming into a happy little girl who finally had what she yearned for - a happy family with 2 loving parents. But even this journey wasn't all rosy for her. First, Raman hurt her during the DNA track. Then again she was hurt when he asked Ishita to apologize to Adi. Now again, she was the one at the receiving end of Raman's anger. It is not fair for Ruhi. Right now, she is a child and won't reflect much into it. After a couple of years, when she recalls these memories, she will realize that her father had preferred her brother over her. This will have a negative impact on her life. No matter how happy she might be after this point, she will recall these incidents and when she does, her view on relationships may be affected. I really hope that Raman doesn't yell at her atleast from now or make her feel like she comes after Adi only. We know he loves both his kids but his actions show that Adi is top priority. In his search for his son's love, I hope he doesn't lose his daughter. I am okay with him being selfish, and we all do it at one point or another. But his selfishness is affecting his little daughter, who loves him so much.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

to be honest tanni, I think there is a lot of focus on raman's mistakes because his mistakes concern adi and shagun- who is the main antagonist of the show. from the beginning, it has been about raman's past, and his flaws. I really am tired of so much focus being put on raman.

Originally posted by: -SakuraS-

Firstly thank u for the post. It is refreshing to see posts where we are not bashing Raman to the core or supporting him blindly.

Raman's character is probably one of the most realistic in the show and that is why we all react to him so much, whether it is to bash him or support him. Yes, even though he is making the same mistake (hurting his loved ones for Adi), he has improved. Unlike the last time, when he was upset about falling down in Ruhi's eyes, this time he truly cares and regrets having to do this. He feels guilty for letting Ishita and the rest of the family down for Adi. He always redeems himself though and am sure he will do something to redeem himself this time as well, though it may take longer than before.

My only issue with Raman is his partiality when it comes to his kids. Though I understand that he tries to do everything for Adi because Adi hates him/is away from him. This is not an excuse for hurting Ruhi. Yes, Adi was affected the most in his divorce with Shagun but Ruhi was affected too, maybe even more than Adi. We haven't seen much of Adi's childhood with Raman but I assume that there were atleast a couple of years when he received the love of both parents. Ruhi has been deprived of a parent's love until few months back. Though she had a mother and a father, she grew up without them. She never or rarely met them and even when she did, she was mostly ignored. Then Ishita came in her life, became her mother and Raman too started expressing his love for her more openly. Slowly, she started blooming into a happy little girl who finally had what she yearned for - a happy family with 2 loving parents. But even this journey wasn't all rosy for her. First, Raman hurt her during the DNA track. Then again she was hurt when he asked Ishita to apologize to Adi. Now again, she was the one at the receiving end of Raman's anger. It is not fair for Ruhi. Right now, she is a child and won't reflect much into it. After a couple of years, when she recalls these memories, she will realize that her father had preferred her brother over her. This will have a negative impact on her life. No matter how happy she might be after this point, she will recall these incidents and when she does, her view on relationships may be affected. I really hope that Raman doesn't yell at her atleast from now or make her feel like she comes after Adi only. We know he loves both his kids but his actions show that Adi is top priority. In his search for his son's love, I hope he doesn't lose his daughter. I am okay with him being selfish, and we all do it at one point or another. But his selfishness is affecting his little daughter, who loves him so much.

Originally posted by: Anita.patel

Agree...

How can u hurt your one kid for another? Strange!!

And so many says that Raman is real and ishita doesn't exist.. If u never came across like ishita that doesn't mean they r not real.

My husband is like ishita ,he never get hyper or at least stay calm whatever the situation..sometimes I wonder hw can anybody behave like this ..but they really exist.( And stay calm or handle situation like this ,man can also do that).

Raman has to learn first that all women r not shagun.