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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

Hi everyone this is SRKLuvr here...I might be known to u guys as the only Tapasya supporter on the forum and many of you probably think I'm crazy for defending her. I myself have been surprised to find that I don't hate her like I hate vamps like Ammaji and like Thakur from Bairi Piya and the bad ladies on star plus so I set out to find the reason for my still inability to hate Tapu and i think I have found a part of the answer. I was surfing through youtube, going back through all the old episodes. Always my feeling has been that once ichha was brought into the house and young pliable tapu saw how her parents love suddenly became divided, she started to develope an inferiority complex that could have been eliminated in just a matter of days if it weren't for the devil of all devils Nani, who, in my view has made Tapasya into another version of herself and her son Pushkar. Simply for no other reason than to make her a weapon for the future, nani started showing fake sympathy towards tapu, got her on her side and poisoned her mind constantly against icha and her parents, if you will remember the jungle, the school and the bike incidents. tapu being at such a tender age, wouldnt know what was right and wrong. Then comes the other point. Jogi himself admitted he knew all these years what nani had done to tapu but considered his weakness not to have done anything about it because his "sanscaars" said he couldnt throw divya's maa figure out of the house. This I feel is bad parenting on Jogi's part and really should have been stopped long ago. Then we see Tapasya growing up. She is still being poisoned like anything by nani and now she thinks nani is her only friend and confidante in the family, as she feels her parents have deserted her and icha has taken her share of their love. This was another thing...Tapasya should have never been made to feel this way...if jogi could take icha's responsibility for his guilt then he could make tapu understand but this obviously did not happen. So then tapasya grows up and gets a group of shallow friends and becomes a typical rich brat. she by now is completely in nani's grasp and nani constantly poisons her mind. we know tapasya loves richness and diamonds however psychologically I think this was bound to happen. when rich kids dont have stability in their lives they begin to like all the wrong things and get all the wrong viewpoints. Then comes the introduction of Thakur Veer Singh Bundela. he falls for icha. tapu we know is initially not bothered by this and says to icha she is free to marry him. then comes in the constnt nani poisoning about how icha will steal her right of becoming thakurian and all that. So tapu insists on marrying veer. all of us are sure shes after his diamonds and gold. we say she cares nothing for anyone has no care of relationships. yes we know she doesnt care about icha or ammu but i think its not fair to say that she doesnt care for her parents because we know that far away from her poisoned being is her good heart. if u will see 18th november episode tapasya is clearly shown asking nani on the phone how she phoned papa and how he didnt pick up and told nani to take care of maa and that she misses her. and this was said wholly sincerely. we know that she desperately wanted her father to forgive her. she cried bitterly in the hospital and then ran when she heard he's had a heart attack. then in the same part 18th november we see her happily decorating hers and veer's room and wiping veer's photo frame with such a look in her eyes that somehow led me to believe that she does somewhere feel something for him. tapu tried to do the housework even though she hated it and even ran out in front of veer when tej was waving a knife around. this also struck a chord with me, as a great deal of bravery is required to do that. she immediately ran and got him the water when vansh punched him and was even looking for the medicine when veer came and took it off her. everything she did, even the seduction act, was told to do so by nani. then the divorce papers came and tapu was about to do the right thing and sign when again icha and nani came along and again nani said that signing the papers was equivalent to losing to icha and that she was trying to steal her haq. again i groaned. as for the murder attempt, it was nani that gave her the idea in the first place by saying that somehow she had to get rid of icha. i dont agree with everything tapasya has done wrong but feel a deep pity for her. again today we saw her crying because she feels no one loves her but everyone loves icha. again that inferiority complex comes out.

The only reason I want Veer and Tapasya together is because I think he is the only one that can help her. This complex against icha needs to go away and I dont think a psychologist will be able to do that. She needs a good and true man like Veer to help her, get rid of the poison in her brain and stop her inferiority complex. if the creatives wanna bring in another man for her that is good then fine but at the moment I feel Veer is the only one that can help her. I feel for Tapu because at the moment she is living in a khokli world, like veer said. Any amount of diamonds is not going to fill the void in her heart that is there because she feels unloved and undermined. No diamonds will make her satisfied. Only love will and once she gets that, i feel everything will change and she WILL get better. i dont know but today I didnt see the longing on her face for the diamonds but rather the disgust that even mai had started regarding icha more than her. the truth is that the whole way nani has given tapu this feeling that she is unloved. Only veer can take this away.

I know there will be many counter arguments to what Ive said here and there may be some loopholes but on the whole I see tapasya as an extremely unfortunate, brainwashed young girl whos whole life has been ruined by her nani. whilst nani and pushkar find ways to be happy the way they are, tapu cannot because initially she was a good soul. My dearest prayer and wish is to see her life fulfilled in the real sense - with love and purity and this and only this will resurrect her back to her six year old good self. veer is the only person that can do this.

I hope maybe some of u understand why Ive always felt bad for tapasya. I know it certainly helped me in my understanding, to write all this. And please dont feel any hatred towards me for trying to understand someone u might see as pure evil, but I do have my reasons. I have tried to understand her fully. I certainly do not agree with many of the things shes done but I believe the world can become a better place when a bad and misled person comes back to the right path and stays on it, because no one is born bad. circumstances make people bad and this has what has happened to tapu. Before you say things like "kill her or make her die somehow, please try to understand that she herself has spent all these years growing up feeling downtrodden and inferior and with no real care. so she took solace in doing the wrong thing. Now all I want is her on the right path again.

😊 Thanks for reading my ultra long post!😳

Dear SRK...please accept my apologies for being unable 2 complete reading your post in one go...may be I read 1/3 rd or less and cant be brave anymore...😭😭..😆, sorry😉

In a nutshell I assume u agree that Tapasya is evil 👏but u blame Nani for her evilness.😕..and u r under the impression that Tapasya was young and unable 2 differentiate between good and bad...are you trying to suggest that she was girl with special needs in terms of mental maurity.....I wonder if sending her 2 a children's jail/to a school of mentally challenged children at that young age would have solved the current day problem....

Edited by shivani109 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Tapasya cast is amazing...aisa lagata hai ki original character hi aisa hoga...great acting... Rashmi desai!....sorry but i hate tap all the time.😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivani109

Dear SRK...please accept my apologies for being unable 2 complete reading your post in one go...may be I read 1/3 rd or less and cant be brave anymore...😭😭..😆, sorry😉

In a nutshell I assume u agree that Tapasya is evil 👏but u blame Nani for her evilness.😕..and u r under the impression that Tapasya was young and unable 2 differentiate between good and bad...are you trying to suggest that she was girl with special needs in terms of mental maurity.....I wonder if sending her 2 a children's jail/to a school of mentally challenged children at that young age would have solved the current day problem....





yes i know she does the wrong thing but I blame nani for using tapu as a tool and making her into another version of herself. its simple - if tapu had been raised by divya and jogi she wudve been good and true like them but since she has been raised by nani she is like nani. this is sort of the parents fault i feel
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



lol unfortunately even the summary would become too long! might as well read para by para😆

u mean even if we make a precis of it den also its looooooooooooooong.😉😉😉😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



yes i know she does the wrong thing but I blame nani for using tapu as a tool and making her into another version of herself. its simple - if tapu had been raised by divya and jogi she wudve been good and true like them but since she has been raised by nani she is like nani. this is sort of the parents fault i feel



hmnnn....I accept Nani n co might have a role...but do you feel tht shez still mentally challenged that she cant see what is right and what is not...or do u think shez evil....if u dont mind......plzzz place a hand on ur heart....u might see an answer of the two quoted above.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivani109



hmnnn....I accept Nani n co might have a role...but do you feel tht shez still mentally challenged that she cant see what is right and what is not...or do u think shez evil....if u dont mind......plzzz place a hand on ur heart....u might see an answer of the two quoted above.....



what i think is that if uve have been raised in a certain way, with a certain mindframe and especially if it is wrong and specially if its poison, then its impossible for that mindframe to change unless there is a reason for it to chage, like if the viewpoint is proved wrong and all or if the influence changes. tapu is still under the influence has been under for ten years, she feels nobody loves her and i think its unrealistic to just wake up one day now that ur elder and go "oh this mindframe is wrong it has to change"
tapu has seen nothing that proves her mindframe to be wrong. it wont change unless someone changes it. someone she will listen to and the only person who has that over her is veer!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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darling to get love u must give love not snatch love ...so i wonder how u seem to justify Veer curing her malady..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shivani109

darling to get love u must give love not snatch love ...so i wonder how u seem to justify Veer curing her malady..



buts thats just the problem! without seeing love and believing it shes not going to get out of this mindframe of hers. nani and pushkar live vicariously in their malicious lives but tapu cant be happy in her life. she has an inferiority complex and until somebody shows her that someone can love her she cannot get rid of the complex...on a purely psychological view! its really sad and I feel really sad for her because she doesnt have love in her life she finds pleasure in others unhappines and cannot bear anyone else to be happy if she isnt. its a complex but no shrink can help her! only veer can! someone she looks upto! veer understands her so well and knows nani controls her every move! he said so on the 16th december episode! so knowing all this, if he is forced to live with tapu and if he can get out of this gham regarding icha he might realise he can help tapu become a better person, like he helped vansh!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



buts thats just the problem! without seeing love and believing it shes not going to get out of this mindframe of hers. nani and pushkar live vicariously in their malicious lives but tapu cant be happy in her life. she has an inferiority complex and until somebody shows her that someone can love her she cannot get rid of the complex...on a purely psychological view! its really sad and I feel really sad for her because she doesnt have love in her life she finds pleasure in others unhappines and cannot bear anyone else to be happy if she isnt. its a complex but no shrink can help her! only veer can! someone she looks upto! veer understands her so well and knows nani controls her every move! he said so on the 16th december episode! so knowing all this, if he is forced to live with tapu and if he can get out of this gham regarding icha he might realise he can help tapu become a better person, like he helped vansh!



I like to believe she did not recieve any love....well can someone tell her that the first principle to get love is to give love...if she wants Veer to love her...then i assume she has to give Veer his love Ichcha..if Veer continues 2 b a meaningful character.....then Veer might consider forgiving and forgetting her....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



what i think is that if uve have been raised in a certain way, with a certain mindframe and especially if it is wrong and specially if its poison, then its impossible for that mindframe to change unless there is a reason for it to chage, like if the viewpoint is proved wrong and all or if the influence changes. tapu is still under the influence has been under for ten years, she feels nobody loves her and i think its unrealistic to just wake up one day now that ur elder and go "oh this mindframe is wrong it has to change"
tapu has seen nothing that proves her mindframe to be wrong. it wont change unless someone changes it. someone she will listen to and the only person who has that over her is veer!

i agree 2 u on dis dat if a prsn is moulded in a certain way wen he/she is a child den dat prsn bcums like dat.
we've many e.g. in history like tappu & 1 is of duryodhan who bcame evil under da influence of his uncle.
but just bcoz of dat he wasn't absolvd of all his sins & pardond.even Lord Krishana himself told pandavas not 2 pardon duryodhan bcoz a prsn's change in thinking is dependent only on him/her after u grow up.
tappu can see luv in iccha's eyes.why can't she think like dis dat may all luv iccha but iccha only luvs & cares abt her dats why she even sacrificed her luv 4 tappu.

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