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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15
I don't think suraj is unworthy of chakor... as he's a changed man now and has supported chakor during the drug accusation track and now chakor is supporting him. They both are complete opposites which makes them a strong pair - while suraj is physically strong and thinks from his mind, chakor is someone that's mentally very strong and always makes decisions based on her heart - an example of this is how villagers have time and time again betrayed her trust by not believing in her or supporting her, but she's continued to help them in need - only because of her emotions... this is something suraj would never do. Same goes for imvaan - imli is like suraj - she uses her mind - she and suraj knew they had to play KN and ragini by using their mind and pretending to be on their side. While vivaan is someone that like chakor who makes decisions based on his feelings... if he used his mind he would play dirty and take revenge on tejaswini by not helping suraj just like she took revenge on ranjana by attacking her son, but vivaan didn't do that - he gave importance to his heart rather than his mind and helped sukor. so overall the pairings fit well as one partner's weakness is the other's strength which is why as a team they work well together.while I am not particularly happy with the fact that imli and suraj were going to have a baby, it should not be something that continues to gain importance in their lives now... its a matter of the past and both have moved on. One thing I feel the CVs should consider going back to is Suraj's rape attempt - he owes chakor an apology for that.. it should be something the CVs approach with great sensitivity and should definitely not ignore it.chakor falling for a man who got her sis pregnant is nothing new on TV... its been shown before in other shows and some have even gone a step further where the male lead has had kids with both sisters... its difficult to accept but here the kids unfortunately not around so with time I think the audience will forget it...suraj and imli's so called LS was a matter of the past and it should remain that way and not affect sukor or imvaan's present or future. And personally I believe sukor LS should be acceptable since it does reflect reality in that how many couples in real life can truly say they were each other's first and true love? not many some do go through their fair share of break ups and heart breaks before finding the true one and that's what sukor would have done. having said that, going after ur sister's ex in real life would be so wrong, I mean going after ur best friend's ex seems so morally wrong that going after ur sister's ex would just mean taking it to a whole next level. But here she was deceived into marrying him so chakor's situation cannot reflect reality in that way... it would have been wrong if say she wasn't married to suraj and then fell for him after all that he did with her sister - but here the marriage brings a different angle to it, thereby making the viewers look at it from a different angle.
Originally posted by: Banjaaran.
in real life all the men that i root for in my fantasy land - would be in jail.
from my Dutta to my Sanskaar to my Suraj.
the stories i connect to; the ships i sail in; the men i fall in love with have not connect whatsoever with my real life.
#disclaimer.
______________________________1.Do you all also think that Suraj is unworthy of Chakor?
No! he is yang of her yin.
the way he completes her no one else will.
same goes for her.
2.Is a heart felt apology expected?
Yes.
actions speaks more than words.
but sometimes.. words are needed. they are healers; they are beautiful.. and they last a lifetime... if you mean them.3.What if nothing,regarding this matter is discussed...Can you all forgive Suraj for that?
He is not mine to forgive. he is chakor's.😆. but yeah.. i would be tad disappointed. *crying like a rudaali*.4.Does this fact that "Suraj once slept with a girl,which resulted in pregnancy" makes you uneasy of their love story?
my definition and guidelines of morality is slightly twisted. rigid at times. but mostly twisted. i can forgive physical closeness not emotional one.
and the emotional connect he shares with Chakor is priceless. and one of a kind. and that connect is something he shares ONLY with her.
5.Can you all relate with Chakor if she,knowing everything about his past continues with him?
#My disclaimer in the beginning.
i don't relate to any characters. i either love them.
or hate them.
or ff through them.😳
Originally posted by: .SoulMates.
1.Do you all also think that Suraj is unworthy of Chakor?
Suraj was completely wrong for Chakor in the past yess coz he was a very bad person but not anymore so no I don't think he is unworthy of Chakor. Also as long as Chakor does not think like that its okay 😆
2.Is a heart felt apology expected?
A heartfelt apology need not always be just that word 'Sorry'. I choose to believe everytime Chakor chooses to run into Surajs' arms now to feel safe or for comfort is her having forgiven him & that came about after he showed her that he could be trusted. Also Suraj willing to move heaven & earth for Chakor's izzat is a sorry too. So no I don't really want or expect a full fledged scene with him begging for forgiveness baaki CV babas ki marzi3.What if nothing,regarding this matter is discussed...Can you all forgive Suraj for that?
I already have due to the above given reasons. Also in the show itself Chakor was never shown to be really pissed at Suraj for this abhorrent act of his. The next day the fool gives her a bouquet saying sorry meri nayee naveli dulhan & she shows him chaaku that he better keep his distance.. bas ho gaya. Its the makers dimag ka locha that they used such a serious issue such as molestation or attempted rape for no solid reason in the show4.Does this fact that "Suraj once slept with a girl,which resulted in pregnancy" makes you uneasy of their love story?
I think I might be the only one or 1 of the few that is not bothered by the whole Imli/pregnancy issue. It was sheer torture to watch that track coz of the stupid way in which it was all put forth but it still does not bother me. But biology cracking its silly jokes with unwanted pregnancies in TV shows is just that silly. It would've made me uneasy if Suraj had set out to seduce Imli for revenge or for fun but it was 2 idiots getting drunk & landing up where?? of course on THE GHAAS.. THE place to be in Udaan for romance 😆
5.Can you all relate with Chakor if she,knowing everything about his past continues with him?
I try not to relate with anything that happens in TV shows coz I am no Jagat Maata & Suraj would've been dead 10 times over if it were up to me or I would have smacked every single bastiwala on the head at least once.. God forbid if I ever even looked at a selfish dude like Vivaan. But as far as seeing it as a viewer.. LOVING SuKor so yeah I am fine with it coz Surajs' past is just that his past
Originally posted by: Banjaaran.
in real life all the men that i root for in my fantasy land - would be in jail.
from my Dutta to my Sanskaar to my Suraj.
the stories i connect to; the ships i sail in; the men i fall in love with have not connect whatsoever with my real life.
#disclaimer.
______________________________1.Do you all also think that Suraj is unworthy of Chakor?
No! he is yang of her yin.
the way he completes her no one else will.
same goes for her.
2.Is a heart felt apology expected?
Yes.
actions speaks more than words.
but sometimes.. words are needed. they are healers; they are beautiful.. and they last a lifetime... if you mean them.3.What if nothing,regarding this matter is discussed...Can you all forgive Suraj for that?
He is not mine to forgive. he is chakor's.😆. but yeah.. i would be tad disappointed. *crying like a rudaali*.4.Does this fact that "Suraj once slept with a girl,which resulted in pregnancy" makes you uneasy of their love story?
my definition and guidelines of morality is slightly twisted. rigid at times. but mostly twisted. i can forgive physical closeness not emotional one.
and the emotional connect he shares with Chakor is priceless. and one of a kind. and that connect is something he shares ONLY with her.
5.Can you all relate with Chakor if she,knowing everything about his past continues with him?
#My disclaimer in the beginning.
i don't relate to any characters. i either love them.
or hate them.
or ff through them.😳
Originally posted by: vs215blooms
1. I don't think suraj is unworthy to chakor. Suraj supports chakor and taking care of her always, suraj changed a lot. He is not the one who hates chakor and bully her. Suraj is ready to bear all humiliation to protect chakor. They are strong in their own ways and having own attitude.
2. Yes it is. Suraj must apology chakor. He tries to molest chakor. We can't go easy with it. It is better cvs clear this means. Bt nowadays suraj reaction towards chakor makes me wow.. He values her more than his own life.3. I can't forgive him. But jagatmata forgive him. Everything is possible in telly world.4. All 4 peoples are moved on their life. Imvaan are happily living their life. Imli doesn't have issue on the bachua matter and moved on with vivaan. Then why can't sukor move on their life. Really it is wrong in real life. It seems like suraj and imli forget about that even cvs forget. We fans only always discuss this things. If cvs clear this bachua issue means am very happy with sukor love story. If that bachua is not suraj's it would be amazing. There is no boundary for sukor love story. Cvs please consider this.-sruthi
To be really honest, i am actually liking this track sans the atyachaar stuff..but having said that, atyachaar is part and parcel of bandhuva track..so i am not complaining...and suraj is paying for his sins..so no rules relaxation for him in that according to me..but they are dragging certain things and suddenly rushing certain things ..but the main thing for me to like this track is definitely the growing closeness and understanding between suraj and chakor and their scenes are really good according to me...so coming to the questions part..
1. I once upon on time felt that suraj is not worth of chakor. .but now i feel he is in the journey of making himself worth of her..the struggles he is facing now too are a part of it..2. Definitely needed..i am just dying to see that..because he has done stuff which are beyond forgiveness too..so he should let chakor know that he feels really sorry and guilty for that..3. If nothing is discussed then it's the cvs whom i won't forgive and not suraj, for not writing that ...and as nimmi said once, i too will mentally murder them😆4. I have 50-50 opinion in that..don't know how to put it..in real life i am strongly against it..but i very much agree with nimmi, physical/emotional closeness explanation..5. Actually it's subjective...what may be disagreeable to me may be agreeable to others..so if chakor is ok with suraj's past, then who am i to crib about it..😆 even vivaan has accepted imli with her past. .
Originally posted by: geetkumar
Hey Rabia.
First of all sorry for not answering sooner. Actually your questions put me into thinking mode, whether a girl should forgive a man like Suraj or not. Very valid questions. In the real world that is an impossible feat. But here it is fiction. Then again some times fiction is inspired by reality and vice versa.For some men, saying sorry becomes very difficult. Though they would be feeling guilty, ashamed and all but it still becomes extremely difficult for them to say the word sorry. So what do they do then? They say it through their actions. And Suraj has done that time and again. He was the one who molested Chakor, and he is the same man who broke away the chains to save chakor's dignity. He is the same man who bowed down on Kamal Narayan's feet to save Chakor, not for himself. He is the same man who is starving to death since the last twelve days, but when Kamal Narayan asked him to hit chakor, he rather preferred to starve for another 112 days than hurting her. Without saying sorry, he showed that how sorry he is and he has the highest regards for chakor. If he is not worthy of Her then I don't think any else ever will be.But yes sometimes apologising and saying the word has its own importance. So yes, Suraj needs to say it. This will not only heal Chakor but it will also heal him. I don't know about Chakor, but this apology would definitely lessen the burden on his heart. Or else he would never said that he was a very bad husband , a gunda and feel unworthy of her.Regarding Imli, I still don't think that he was ever emotionally involved with her. He loved his unborn child which was transferred to the mother of his child. If he would have loved Imli, he wouldn't have bounced back so fast. Whatever happened between them was because of a drunken stupor. And all four have accepted the past and have decided to move on in their lives.Plus the way Chakor can connect with suraj on emotional basis as well as intellectual level she couldn't do with anyone else. Not only Chakor but Suraj also. They always dump their ugliest truths, their innermost fears and the unvarnished and raw facts of their lives on each others lap. there is no middle ground for them.Even when they were enemies they had that unspoken haq on each other.And as the saying goes. Love defies logic. When you love someone with your heart mind body and soul then no past, no present can come in between. It doesn't even matter if the person is good or bad. So who am I to judge them.I hope I made sense.