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Eatifi

@Eatifi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#901

Originally posted by: gibbu
Moreover a cocksure master planner that was Suraj has now been reduced to a diffident person. His locus of control is no more internal to him. We see him suffering from crisis of confidence every now n then , even when he fails to find silly odd jobs in his village - as if hes failing in ultimate objective of his life -- which the leads seem to have long forgotten. Suraj is now a mere brute force, nothing more.

A total butchering of character indeed! Why women-centricity on shows has to be shown at expense of decline in men's character, i dont understand.

And yes the way SuKor story is progressing - with selective amnesia about narital rape n imlis preg-- is speaking volumes abt the woefully negative creativity!!

i m telling myself each day to stay away from show n forum for a few weeks n concentrate on studies, the vj chaska factor is just too strong to overcome

It very unfair to say this yaar,its not butchering its reinvention,of Suraj's character...just imagine first yourself,how you would have felt,if had to gone through all that he was forced to do,its very easy to type and comment,first imagine yourself in his shoes,what do you really expect him to do...

actually its beyond imagination,its just fiction,God forbid that anyone has to ever go through the mental draining and emotional torture that he had to go through...

and one more thing,Sukor love story has progressed in the most heart warming and beautiful way possible...I salute the cvs for it...

and regarding the 'marital rape' and 'Imli's pregnancy'...there is something called like...'forgetting.forgiving and compromising'...it really needs not to be discussed by either of us,and especially by Sukor...

I am really sorry if my comments hurt you,but actually I got very much pissed on reading yours,,,,,my intention was not to offend you...😊

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nimmi

@Banjaaran25

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

#902

@rabia..

beautifully detailed analysis girl. but for the first time ever i am disagreeing with you.
sorry dearest.

there are lot many superb cricketers around. but only likes of Dravid gets the title of 'The wall'. when many play when pitches are perfect, bowlers are friendly, sun is shining... men like him step in when the going gets brutal and play their guts out.
my friend's sister was a physiotherapist who treated army men. so many tales of how terribly injured the men used to get.. yet they were the first ones to beat down the injuries because simply.. they were men on mission not built to lose.

THIS is what separates men from boys.
how well you play when all chips are down.

and when the chips went down.. Suraj went down and got buried. Chakor had to dig him out time and again. barring few odd flashes of absolute brilliance where he rose to the occasion.

only other day on rishtey there was this episode where Tejaswini gives him Dubai tickets and begs him to flee. he refuses flat out and declares he will defeat KN.

and then Chakor came back in his life and rest is history... fleeing battle field, laying down armour and her fighting his battles for him. as geet said.. giving away his dor to Chakor.

i am being extra harsh on him i guess. that's because i expected to much out of him. HE is built to be a Titan.
yes lot many stories in history where battles are fought with patience and wits and guts.

i have patience of a saint but i am being patient since that Diwali rescue days. have simply reached the edge now.

we are not watching a documentary. this a fictional show which sells dreams and fantasies. a 7 years old being ultimate nemesis of a grown up terror of a villain sounds ridiculous in real life.
worked spectacularly in this world of fiction and dreams.

so i demand my Titan back... realities be damned.

and no kiddo he is anything but an introvert. he was an intense, passionate man with extreme emotions.
seeing him going so ... passive is disappointing.

Reciprocation.. that's a terrific analysis rabia. but isn't that what exactly Suraj is doing?
his thoughts are... Chakor has done so much for me. Chakor takes care of me so much. and so on.

to put it bluntly.. she is his need.
jaroorat hai.. kwaahish nahi!

Chakor fell for him with all his flaws and faults and darkness. when he has nothing going for him.

i want THAT kind of love from him for her.

and i seriously want Chakor to get a grip on herself. her 'need' for Suraj is no longer cute now.

and i truly desperately want Suraj to step it up.
angst, passion, fierce, ferocious, absolute love for her.. because he couldn't help falling in love with her.. because she is the stuff his deepest darkest dreams are made of. not because she has been his jagatmata. let that shade of hers be a part of his love for her.. not the whole reason.
or else this dark fairytale will lose its edge for me.

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Esha Singh

@eshasrk

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Posted: 8 years ago

#903

Originally posted by: gibbu
Moreover a cocksure master planner that was Suraj has now been reduced to a diffident person. His locus of control is no more internal to him. We see him suffering from crisis of confidence every now n then , even when he fails to find silly odd jobs in his village - as if hes failing in ultimate objective of his life -- which the leads seem to have long forgotten. Suraj is now a mere brute force, nothing more.

A total butchering of character indeed! Why women-centricity on shows has to be shown at expense of decline in men's character, i dont understand.

And yes the way SuKor story is progressing - with selective amnesia about narital rape n imlis preg-- is speaking volumes abt the woefully negative creativity!!

i m telling myself each day to stay away from show n forum for a few weeks n concentrate on studies, the vj chaska factor is just too strong to overcome

@ BOLD : Totally agree with you , seems like the makers have given Chakor selective amnesia all of a sudden that she's forgotten everything so easily

She made peace with Imli's pregnancy issue, did she make peace with the attempted rape too ????

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geetkumar

@geetkumar

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Posted: 8 years ago

#904

Rabia Sweetheart 🤗

An entirely very different kind of perception I must say. And beautifully described.

But Extremely sorry for disagreeing with you.

Many a things what you wrote is absolutely brilliant.

"The man was broken of chip by chip,of his personality,the attitude he had been made off,waht he had to go through during this phase,no other bandhua had ever experienced in Azadgunj,the man was completely teared,broken,shattered inside,his soul had been torn off,he had to time and again keep aside his ARROGANCE,SELF RESPECT...

Yes true indeed.The man had to go through hell and back.

But then again isn't it the testing of true mettle when a person has to undergo extreme harsh conditions but doesn't loose his core essence.?

That is what I want to see in Suraj. Him not loosing his self worth. A person may change is behaviour, his manner, his attitude and all but how can his intelligence change? How does a very very cunning person become so dumb. How can he Just stop thinking and using his brain? Yes a beaten person takes time to regroup, but how does a devious mind stops plotting? That is what I have a 'sikaayat' with the Cvs.

If I love a person just because,the person loves me,then its not love in its true forms...ITS MERELY A RECIPROCATION...

"and this was what Chakor felt for Vivaan,he liked her,expressed it to her,proposed her,she simply RECIPROCATED it,,,,,,

But in the case of Suraj,she loves him,feels for him,entirely on her own,it has nothing to do with the fact of WHAT HE THINKS FOR HER...

Considering the fact that she was a simple,sober lover girl with Vivaan,I always wanted to see a fierce,passionate lover woman in her when it comes to Suraj..."

I absolutely loved this.

Yes she feels all that for suraj. But just a few months back she was shattered because Vivaan dumped her. Which was not the case with Suraj.

Usne apneaap ko sambhaal liya. And he also handled Chakor very well when she was heartbroken.

Then How come she recovered so soon and not being cautious? Aren't the Cvs rushing through this?

I don't want suraj to love chakor for her saving him all the time, and solving his problems.

I want suraj to love Chakor with a mad passion, intensity, Crazily, fiercely and all that with all stupidity, faults and shortcomings' and all that.

I want him to woo her with all he has, with his whole being.

And for me, I did not find Suraj introvert. The man was very vocal and did not give a damn what the world thought about him. In fact the man was a terror for the people around him.

And least of all, We all know what happens in reality. That is the reason we want to see the Hero winning in fiction. We fantasize about it.

In India, most of the serials are female centric. And we love it. But that doesn't have to be at the cost of the male lead.Sometimes we do want to see the man taking the bull by the horn and winning it. Whether it is love or war.

Once again, sorry for disagreeing with you. Do forgive me. Absolutely no hurt intended.

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Namita

@Namita-M

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 8 years ago

#905

@Esha, seems like Chakor did make peace with the rape attempt.

Great posts Nimmi, Geet and Gibbu. I'm simply grateful that the toture is over.
I don't know how much patience is required. We get Chakor missing Suraj but where is Suraj missing Chakor.
I want Suraj's monologues about Chakor. Not about everything she has done for him but for who she is.
Why isn't Suraj pining away!!

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Namita

@Namita-M

Stunner

+ 5

Posted: 8 years ago

#906

Introvert?? Nah, Suraj isn't an introvert. He didn't hesitate in letting others know what he though or what he wanted from them.

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geetkumar

@geetkumar

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Posted: 8 years ago

#907

Originally posted by: -Namita-
@Esha, seems like Chakor did make peace with the rape attempt.

Great posts Nimmi, Geet and Gibbu. I'm simply grateful that the toture is over.
I don't know how much patience is required. We get Chakor missing Suraj but where is Suraj missing Chakor.
I want Suraj's monologues about Chakor. Not about everything she has done for him but for who she is.
Why isn't Suraj pining away!!

Bang on Namita.

That is the exact sentiment I am Looking forward to. Suraj pining for Chakor. His monologues about Chakor. His angst. His mind tearing in half with love for Chakor and revenge from KN. His mind working in overdrive. I want a burning Suraj. Not a 'Thanda' one. I want to see the same Suraj who called out KN 'Paagal Bhuddhe" to his face.

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Esha Singh

@eshasrk

Inactive

Posted: 8 years ago

#908

Originally posted by: geetkumar

Bang on Namita.
That is the exact sentiment I am Looking forward to. Suraj pining for Chakor. His monologues about Chakor. His angst. His mind tearing in half with love for Chakor and revenge from KN. His mind working in overdrive. I want a burning Suraj. Not a 'Thanda' one. I want to see the same Suraj who called out KN 'Paagal Bhuddhe" to his face.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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nimmi

@Banjaaran25

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 8 years ago

#909

thank you @nami.
i say DITTO to your posts.

Geet..
WORD girl.

Esha & Nami,
how could Cvs and the characters simply forget the 'rape attempt' issue?
without proper closure, apologies, talking about it.. something.. anything? like HOW?

or are we supposed to be grateful that the entire horror that rape is didn't happen till its gory ending? *gags*.

Chakor back off please.
and Suraj.. kindly step in and step up. Both in love and vengeance.

the bandua track surely had its beautiful moments. the emotional bonding of Sukor and sheer acting prowess of VJ was perfection.
but will i watch this track again either in voot or live on rishtey?.. a resounding NO!

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Esha Singh

@eshasrk

Inactive

Posted: 8 years ago

#910

Indeed the 1st phase of the bandhua track had its beautiful moments : one being VJ's superb acting talent which established once again for the umpteenth time what a tremendous , amazing actor he is and 2nd the emotional bonding btwn SuKor which was shown beautifully and 3rd the transformation of Suraj from the person he was to the person he has become

Edited by eshasrk - 8 years ago

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