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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

thank you @nami.
i say DITTO to your posts.

Geet..
WORD girl.

Esha & Nami,
how could Cvs and the characters simply forget the 'rape attempt' issue?
without proper closure, apologies, talking about it.. something.. anything? like HOW?

or are we supposed to be grateful that the entire horror that rape is didn't happen till its gory ending? *gags*.

Chakor back off please.
and Suraj.. kindly step in and step up. Both in love and vengeance.

the bandua track surely had its beautiful moments. the emotional bonding of Sukor and sheer acting prowess of VJ was perfection.
but will i watch this track again either in voot or live on rishtey?.. a resounding NO!




how could Cvs and the characters simply forget the 'rape attempt' issue?
without proper closure, apologies, talking about it.. something.. anything? like HOW?

or are we supposed to be grateful that the entire horror that rape is didn't happen till its gory ending? *gags*.

Completely agree.

Chakor back off please.
and Suraj.. kindly step in and step up. Both in love and vengeance.

👏

The bandua track surely had its beautiful moments. the emotional bonding of Sukor and sheer acting prowess of VJ was perfection.
but will i watch this track again either in voot or live on rishtey?.. a resounding NO!


I second that.👍🏼
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Posted: 8 years ago
Is it just me or are the eps getting suuuper boring these days? On a side note,I quite liked the editing in yday's ep 😆
Also they are simply razing ImVaan to the ground, aren't they? Was it really necessary to make Vivaan so very evil overnight? I always disliked him post-leap for being spineless but this materialistic behavior is so OOC for him.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Aradh_27

Is it just me or are the eps getting suuuper boring these days? On a side note,I quite liked the editing in yday's ep 😆

Also they are simply razing ImVaan to the ground, aren't they? Was it really necessary to make Vivaan so very evil overnight? I always disliked him post-leap for being spineless but this materialistic behavior is so OOC for him.



Vivaan has always been such a flip flop character and now he's power and money hungry, becoz he thinks that with money he can buy Imli and himself anything they want, although Imli doesn't approve of this
So why not Vivaan buys himself the ability to become a father or buys a child...it may sound harsh like this , but the reason why all this started in the first place, has taken a total backseat now...
I thought Vivaan is doing this out of frustration becoz he cannot become a dad, but NO way...this is all about power and money !!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder the devils trio will take him further in to the shit and him coming out of that seems pretty much impossible...this is what happens when you sit and dine together with the devil
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Posted: 8 years ago
He's reached the point he's putting money above his saccha pyaar so...
Also you'd think all of this would prompt Imli to stay separately for a while, but these people clearly belong to the last century. Sadly I don't see Chakor behaving any differently if she were in Imli's place either. 'Cos Vivaan is the village hero for God knows what reason.

And KNR fooling Chakor was a huge thumbs down for me today. It wasn't enough they've made Suraj so aimless, Chakor's apparently become gullible now.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Aradh_27

He's reached the point he's putting money above his saccha pyaar so...

Also you'd think all of this would prompt Imli to stay separately for a while, but these people clearly belong to the last century. Sadly I don't see Chakor behaving any differently if she were in Imli's place either. 'Cos Vivaan is the village hero for God knows what reason.

And KNR fooling Chakor was a huge thumbs down for me today. It wasn't enough they've made Suraj so aimless, Chakor's apparently become gullible now.


Both Suraj and Chakor have lost their brains while falling in love I guess 🤪
And yes thought Imli would stay away from Vivaan, but I saw a pic on Insta one of these days of ImVaan together...don't know if its an old or new pic, so lets see !!!!
What a saccha pyaar I must say...truly commendable
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Aradh_27

Is it just me or are the eps getting suuuper boring these days? On a side note,I quite liked the editing in yday's ep 😆

Also they are simply razing ImVaan to the ground, aren't they? Was it really necessary to make Vivaan so very evil overnight? I always disliked him post-leap for being spineless but this materialistic behavior is so OOC for him.



I am enjoying the episodes when sukor scenes and even Kn plotting scenes are being shown...

But whenever I am getting to see,Chakor,Imli and Chagan hatching out their own plans,I am feeling like taking a heavy object and striking with it hard on their heads,😡
Their 'divide and rule' planning seemed a very impotent one...I really wish it by heart that trio gets a very big failure in this plan of theirs...😈

I really dont want anyone to interfere in any plans against KN,either it should be planned and executed entirely by Sukor or the four...and no one else😛
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.


@rabia..

beautifully detailed analysis girl. but for the first time ever i am disagreeing with you.
sorry dearest.

there are lot many superb cricketers around. but only likes of Dravid gets the title of 'The wall'. when many play when pitches are perfect, bowlers are friendly, sun is shining... men like him step in when the going gets brutal and play their guts out.
my friend's sister was a physiotherapist who treated army men. so many tales of how terribly injured the men used to get.. yet they were the first ones to beat down the injuries because simply.. they were men on mission not built to lose.

THIS is what separates men from boys.
how well you play when all chips are down.

and when the chips went down.. Suraj went down and got buried. Chakor had to dig him out time and again. barring few odd flashes of absolute brilliance where he rose to the occasion.

only other day on rishtey there was this episode where Tejaswini gives him Dubai tickets and begs him to flee. he refuses flat out and declares he will defeat KN.

and then Chakor came back in his life and rest is history... fleeing battle field, laying down armour and her fighting his battles for him. as geet said.. giving away his dor to Chakor.

i am being extra harsh on him i guess. that's because i expected to much out of him. HE is built to be a Titan.
yes lot many stories in history where battles are fought with patience and wits and guts.

i have patience of a saint but i am being patient since that Diwali rescue days. have simply reached the edge now.

we are not watching a documentary. this a fictional show which sells dreams and fantasies. a 7 years old being ultimate nemesis of a grown up terror of a villain sounds ridiculous in real life.
worked spectacularly in this world of fiction and dreams.

so i demand my Titan back... realities be damned.

and no kiddo he is anything but an introvert. he was an intense, passionate man with extreme emotions.
seeing him going so ... passive is disappointing.

Reciprocation.. that's a terrific analysis rabia. but isn't that what exactly Suraj is doing?
his thoughts are... Chakor has done so much for me. Chakor takes care of me so much. and so on.

to put it bluntly.. she is his need.
jaroorat hai.. kwaahish nahi!

Chakor fell for him with all his flaws and faults and darkness. when he has nothing going for him.

i want THAT kind of love from him for her.

and i seriously want Chakor to get a grip on herself. her 'need' for Suraj is no longer cute now.

and i truly desperately want Suraj to step it up.
angst, passion, fierce, ferocious, absolute love for her.. because he couldn't help falling in love with her.. because she is the stuff his deepest darkest dreams are made of. not because she has been his jagatmata. let that shade of hers be a part of his love for her.. not the whole reason.
or else this dark fairytale will lose its edge for me.





Nimmi di,you really dont have to be sorry,its absolutely perfect that we both disagree with each other,what matters is that we both must respect each other pov...


And yes,you said it right,-"THIS IS WHAT SEPARATES MEN FROM BOYS,HOW WELL YOU PLAY WHEN ALL CHIPS ARE DOWN"...
but there is a very large difference between physical pressure and mental pressure...many people may well perform under physical stress,but how many can under the mental one?

KN,played his cards very well,he chose to destroy and tear him...PHYSICALLY,MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY...
Would like here to share a one more personal experience of mine...I am so much attached to my personal belongings that if my mom would not had her control,I would have ended with an entire big room,with each and every stuff of mine,right from my childhood,but still I have with myself preserved,a pair of stationary and book from every,nursery,kg,1,2,3...and so one,actually attachment with one things is that a feeling...
AND WHAT WE GOT TO WITNESS,SURAJ'S EACH PERSONAL BELONGINGS,EVEN HIS ROOM FURNISHINGS WERE AUCTIONED IN THE VERY FRONT OF HIS EYES,THAT TOO IN ONE RUPEE...KEEPING HIM AS A SPECTATOR...
Just imagine,how would had he felt,then...Yes it was Chakor who helped him to go through these tough times...BUT WAS IT NOT THAT ONLY FOR HER,HE WAS GOING THROUGH ALL THESE...for he was ready to die of starvation than to beg for forgiveness...
But still,during those torturous phase,,,,,he STOOD OUT AS AN IRON TESTED OF FIRE...

Sometimes we just need it,it happens with all of us,a person who can gather our broken pieces when we are at our lowest,but tagging the person as our ZAROORAT would be indeed a disregard,,,,,,
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: geetkumar

Rabia Sweetheart 🤗


An entirely very different kind of perception I must say. And beautifully described.
But Extremely sorry for disagreeing with you.
Many a things what you wrote is absolutely brilliant.

"The man was broken of chip by chip,of his personality,the attitude he had been made off,waht he had to go through during this phase,no other bandhua had ever experienced in Azadgunj,the man was completely teared,broken,shattered inside,his soul had been torn off,he had to time and again keep aside his ARROGANCE,SELF RESPECT...

Yes true indeed.The man had to go through hell and back.
But then again isn't it the testing of true mettle when a person has to undergo extreme harsh conditions but doesn't loose his core essence.?

That is what I want to see in Suraj. Him not loosing his self worth. A person may change is behaviour, his manner, his attitude and all but how can his intelligence change? How does a very very cunning person become so dumb. How can he Just stop thinking and using his brain? Yes a beaten person takes time to regroup, but how does a devious mind stops plotting? That is what I have a 'sikaayat' with the Cvs.

If I love a person just because,the person loves me,then its not love in its true forms...ITS MERELY A RECIPROCATION...

"and this was what Chakor felt for Vivaan,he liked her,expressed it to her,proposed her,she simply RECIPROCATED it,,,,,,
But in the case of Suraj,she loves him,feels for him,entirely on her own,it has nothing to do with the fact of WHAT HE THINKS FOR HER...
Considering the fact that she was a simple,sober lover girl with Vivaan,I always wanted to see a fierce,passionate lover woman in her when it comes to Suraj..."

I absolutely loved this.
Yes she feels all that for suraj. But just a few months back she was shattered because Vivaan dumped her. Which was not the case with Suraj.
Usne apneaap ko sambhaal liya. And he also handled Chakor very well when she was heartbroken.
Then How come she recovered so soon and not being cautious? Aren't the Cvs rushing through this?

I don't want suraj to love chakor for her saving him all the time, and solving his problems.
I want suraj to love Chakor with a mad passion, intensity, Crazily, fiercely and all that with all stupidity, faults and shortcomings' and all that.
I want him to woo her with all he has, with his whole being.
And for me, I did not find Suraj introvert. The man was very vocal and did not give a damn what the world thought about him. In fact the man was a terror for the people around him.

And least of all, We all know what happens in reality. That is the reason we want to see the Hero winning in fiction. We fantasize about it.
In India, most of the serials are female centric. And we love it. But that doesn't have to be at the cost of the male lead.Sometimes we do want to see the man taking the bull by the horn and winning it. Whether it is love or war.

Once again, sorry for disagreeing with you. Do forgive me. Absolutely no hurt intended.




It really does not needs a sorry😊...And I literaly not hurt...🤗...

And what you said is my problem as well...GOOD LOOKING AND EXTREMELY TALENTED MALE ARTISTS USED AS A MERE EYE CANDIES IN INDIAN TV SERIALS...😒
But that is something we cant help...as shows are female centric and 90% viewers are females as well...😕
There had been some male cenrtric tv shows tried in the past,but they terribly failed in the trp race...
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Geet-

Regarding Chakor,you wonder that how the hell Chakor so abruptly recovered from Vivaan and she was not being cautious-now let me explain this to you from my perception...actually the feeling is like that only,If any love story gets doomed for some reasons then the lover is left ignited in his/her self,but if the reason comes from the side of the lover itself,then somehow the courage comes in on the other side to move on...

Lemme explain-If Chakor would have been separated from Vivaan due to any other reason,then she would have probably turned into a 'devdaasi',longing and yearning for him...but here Vivaan openly expressed her feelings towards Imli in front of her,The poor soul Chakor had to witness her first love willingly and happily settling down with his love that too in the very front of her own eyes...this very bitter sight has given Chakor the courage to move on,the strength to wipe him off her life...this is it
If you really witness,your lover forgetting everything and moving on,then it really helps it out for you as well to move on...and thats exactly happened with Chakor...
That is why it became so easier for her to recover from Vivaan...
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Posted: 8 years ago
Would like to share one opinion especially for Nimmi di and Geet that Suraj's love for Chakor could never be assigned the tag of RECIPROCATION...
If it comes to physicality,Suraj lose out coz he is not a virgin whereas Chakor is...Bit when it comes to emotional [which matters more],matters...Chakor loses out as It was Suraj who was always connected to her some way...it is just few months back that we got to witness that Chakor can feel even this way for him...
But his feelings for her dates back to the time when she entered azadgunj after years...

The moment he saw her,he was attracted to her,this is what prompted him to flirt with her time and again,as lamely running behind a girl was not his cup of tea,it was his own way...actually,the thing is that he had been always super-obsessed with her...but he wanted to see her defeated as well...Suraj's previous equations with Chakor had been like-AFTER YOU TO BE WITH YOU,AGAINST YOU TO FEEL YOU...much like the song,"TU HI KHWAHISH,TU HI KHATRA,ZEHER TERA DIL MEIN UTRAA"

But if we talk of now,Suraj does not feels for her,or cares for her simply to return her favours or just because he wants to reciprocate her feelings,,,,,,,,
Chakor came up to his rescue when she learned about the conspiracy against him...and slowly she started feeling for him...
But Suraj's concern and silent care[which he himself never acknowledged] for her dates much back-
1.During Imvaan's reception,he insulted her in front of the guests,but still there was few second scene with Sukor aside,where she was about to fall,and he held her by her arm in full attitude,to avoid her from tripping.
2.after the jagraata night,when he was dragging her to her parents home,and Chakor was pricked by a thorn,he stopped,himself took out the thorn off her feet...and then even carried her in his arms to her house.
3.he just sprang like Usain Bolt,during the navraatri dance,he just could not withstand her falling and getting hurt.
4.the very next day,he broke the door for her and carried her in his arms,when she fainted,did not anyone noticed the yearning in his attitude when she was suffocating
5.when the 4 were kidnapped,and there was a point when Chakor was ready to end her life for saving the rest three,what he said..."Zyaadah herogiri dikhaane ki zarurat nahi hai,tumne,yeh bhi nahi socha ki agar tumhe kuch ho jaata,toh hum ladenge kiske saath,hamaari zindagi se toh saara mazaa hi chala jaata'
6.there was scene after kn returned that he wanted to make a deal with Chkor,when Suraj returned home,he got to know it from her mother that kn had gone to meet Chakor in her home,What he did...his expressions,the way he immediately rushed to see if she was ok




and there are many more such examples,when he silently cared for her,was concern for her,but he himself never acknowledged it out of his ego,like in all the above examples he CARED FOR HER,WHEN SHE USED TO COMPLETELY WHINE AT HIM...


And yes,Chakor always wins hands on,when showing the passion...but what about any verbal acknowledgement...It is Suraj who always wins here...
Chakor always gets to show her passion for him through her actions,but Suraj always yearns for a reason behind it,I believe that he always waits for a green signal from her side...which sadly she never gives...
1.during there night stay in the village,on their way to delhi...in the rain...they were both discussing if their future partners,Chakor wants someone in complete contrast to him...and he gives an account exactly resembling her,the way he was saying all those,I felt as if he was trying to know the truth of what SHE FEELS FOR HIM...but sadly the way she reacted,suraj immediately stepped back
2.During the drunk sequence also,It was Suraj for whom IT MATTERED THAT ONE DAY THE DUO WILL BE SEPARATED...he asked this to her,then also he she did not uttered anything worthwhile...
3.Even after the dangal sequence,when she was applying ointment,IT WAS SURAJ WHO QUESTIONED HER OF WHY SHE CARES SO MUCH FOR HIM...then also he was left disappinted...


The fact is The horrid things he had done in the past,he just does not expresses himself fully even in front of Chakor...he was known to be 'self-centered','self-loving'...but the way things have been unfolded off lately in his life and thanks to the people around him,he had been turned into a SELF-HATER...
That is the reason why he appears to be so much restrained in his feelings development for Chakor...
The man respects her so much that he even hesitates to touch her,how could we expect passion...


AND LASTLY,TAGGING HIS FEELINGS FOR CHAKOR AS RECIPROCATION WOULD BE UNFAIR.VERY,VERY UNFAIR...





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