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Posted: 8 years ago

highly negative, criticizing, tired rant ahead. please do not read if you are enjoying the episodes.


why did i start watching the show?
Suraj.. a fascinating character with SUCH a phenomenal potential to be a spectacular character from the man he was to the man he could be.
SuKor: if this is the passion with which they hate each other.. imagine the way they will love. especially Suraj!

So what do i get?
a beautiful transformation of Suraj to such a precious man. - loved watching those brilliant flashes of brilliance.

and then what?

Chakor showing more intensity, passion, angst, feelings and depth for Suraj. i thought it would be other way round considering his kaands against Chakor and his intensity during 'imli' phase. looks like all his passion has been spent there.

his beautiful, sweet, poignant love for Chakor is truly touching but i would be lying if i say Chakor is not trouncing him when it comes to the sheer intensity, passion, need, desire, burning red hot fierce kind of emotions for the one she loves. She is.

and i thought she would be erecting walls and barriers around her and we will get angst, pining, going to hell and back for her from Suraj's side. the rate she is going she might say the magical words first. sigh! a walk in the park for him. and i was hoping from to hell and back journey for love for Suraj.

hope she finds some imli, Suraj pics in that jacket and finally common sense and sense of self preservation and vulnerabilities and insecurities giving a square solid knock on her head.
her feelings for Suraj are beautiful. all that missing, need and everything. but i want Suraj to be the one feeling AND showing those emotions more because between two of them i thought he is one who is more passionate, intense and dark.

and yes.. Suraj! remember your 'sood sameet promise?' are you planning to do something about it or should i stop hoping?

Dear Cvs...

Imli, Suraj, Baccha, rape attempt on Chakor - NOT minor issues but only ones who cares - US the audience.

Vengeance, retribution, payback, winning - again who cares for these things - US the audience.

are WE the only ones who care?

let me know so that i will stop caring once and for all.
i love Suraj and Chakor.
I love VJ and Meera has grown on me so much.
But thing is... i love a damn good story more. and the one you are telling is NOT the one i could enjoy without 'if onlys'.

The Suraj i want to see and the one you show - no connection.
The Chakor i want and the one i am getting - north south again.

you can tell me to change the channel if i am getting so disenchanted. tell you what? someday i just might!



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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Nimmi : Word sister 👏
I couldn't agree more with you !!!! Always thought we would see Suraj showing all the intense feelings for Chakor, considering how their equation was before, but here we see a totally desperate Chakor instead.
I like how her feelings for Suraj have changed, but I definitely do NOT like seeing her go all bonkers for Suraj like crazy the way they show it
And yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a cake walk for Suraj by making Chakor confess first, they way she so desperately behaves 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: eshasrk

@ Nimmi : Word sister 👏
I couldn't agree more with you !!!! Always thought we would see Suraj showing all the intense feelings for Chakor, considering how their equation was before, but here we see a totally desperate Chakor instead.
I like how her feelings for Suraj have changed, but I definitely do NOT like seeing her go all bonkers for Suraj like crazy the way they show it
And yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they make it a cake walk for Suraj by making Chakor confess first, they way she so desperately behaves 😕



thank you sistah.

desperate is the word indeed.
a little perspective please Chakor! yeah you had your Vikor but please the history Suraj shared with your sister is way too sordid. and then there is that tiny-winy rape issue too.

i thought i signed up for a woman. got a giddy teenager instead. how absolutely peaches.

and Suraj.
when he was unshackled and flicked his wrist giving those 'your time is up' kind of fierce gaze to KN.. i as a Suraj'ain should be doing seeti maar. (VJ was awesome there).
instead i rolled my eyes.. .. because i know his next step is baby sitting.
he is not even planning let alone plotting and acting.

i guess i am being too critical but then again i got too attached and hoped too much.
over expectations... always leads to utter disappointments. i guess i should stop hoping and start taking one episode at a time.
and if it gets too much to take anymore.. well there are too many fishes in the sea. i will cast my fishing rod somewhere else.

the fact that i haven't updated melting moments thread for so long despite getting so many of them should tell you that the 'disconnect' has already set in.
i am enjoying Rishtey more.
will bail out from there too the moment bandua track happens.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.


highly negative, criticizing, tired rant ahead. please do not read if you are enjoying the episodes.


why did i start watching the show?
Suraj.. a fascinating character with SUCH a phenomenal potential to be a spectacular character from the man he was to the man he could be.
SuKor: if this is the passion with which they hate each other.. imagine the way they will love. especially Suraj!

So what do i get?
a beautiful transformation of Suraj to such a precious man. - loved watching those brilliant flashes of brilliance.

and then what?

Chakor showing more intensity, passion, angst, feelings and depth for Suraj. i thought it would be other way round considering his kaands against Chakor and his intensity during 'imli' phase. looks like all his passion has been spent there.

his beautiful, sweet, poignant love for Chakor is truly touching but i would be lying if i say Chakor is not trouncing him when it comes to the sheer intensity, passion, need, desire, burning red hot fierce kind of emotions for the one she loves. She is.

and i thought she would be erecting walls and barriers around her and we will get angst, pining, going to hell and back for her from Suraj's side. the rate she is going she might say the magical words first. sigh! a walk in the park for him. and i was hoping from to hell and back journey for love for Suraj.

hope she finds some imli, Suraj pics in that jacket and finally common sense and sense of self preservation and vulnerabilities and insecurities giving a square solid knock on her head.
her feelings for Suraj are beautiful. all that missing, need and everything. but i want Suraj to be the one feeling AND showing those emotions more because between two of them i thought he is one who is more passionate, intense and dark.

and yes.. Suraj! remember your 'sood sameet promise?' are you planning to do something about it or should i stop hoping?

Dear Cvs...

Imli, Suraj, Baccha, rape attempt on Chakor - NOT minor issues but only ones who cares - US the audience.

Vengeance, retribution, payback, winning - again who cares for these things - US the audience.

are WE the only ones who care?

let me know so that i will stop caring once and for all.
i love Suraj and Chakor.
I love VJ and Meera has grown on me so much.
But thing is... i love a damn good story more. and the one you are telling is NOT the one i could enjoy without 'if onlys'.

The Suraj i want to see and the one you show - no connection.
The Chakor i want and the one i am getting - north south again.

you can tell me to change the channel if i am getting so disenchanted. tell you what? someday i just might!





Hey Nimmi, 🤗
Tumne to muh ki baat chheen li.
I started to seriously watch the serial because of Suraj. What a dynamic character. So much of passion and intensity. Now look at him. It seems as if some kind of inertia has settled over him. He has handed over is "dor" to Chakor and sitting ideal or should I say baby sitting as a damsel in distress waiting for his knight in shining armour (chakor) to come and rescue him.
I wonder where his devious mind has gone. The man was like a master plotter. He could anticipate his enemies 'chaal' and used to think ten steps ahead. Now look at him. I am nowhere able to connect him to the same man.
I agree that his transformation to a good man was a beautiful journey but how did he manage to loose his brain on the way is a puzzle indeed.
Then again, I shouldn't be surprised as it is an Indian serial. The Hero starts of with a bang and then some where on the way he slowly starts to fizz out.
Story of every Indian serial.
I really was hoping to see reserved Chakore as she was dumped within days by the love of her life. For her to be wary to love again and erecting lots of walls. And an intense Suraj to tear down those walls in order to win her. I wanted Suraj to go after Chakor with guns blazing but 'saari ummeeden mitti mein mil gayi.'
What we wanted to see and what the CVs are showing.
WE want to see love between a man and a woman, instead they are shown like teenagers.
Doing almost the same thing here Nimmo. Now a days I just glance through the episodes doing my other works simultaneously. While I take out time to watch the old episodes on voot at night.
And I am pretty sure many of us are sailing in the same boat.
If only we could make the creatives understand what we actually want.. (sigh...)
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Posted: 8 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that part completely...Suraj being reduced to a babysitter from a master plotter
When he was freed yesterday from the chains and that glare he gave to KN, I almost thought wow !!!! Suraj Rajvanshi is back, but then the moment got spoiled after that when I remembered that he will become a babysitter instead of figuring out ways and plan his revenge from KN and gang.
It's like the moment an Indian hero falls in love with FL, he loses his brains completely on the way and that is exactly what's happening with Suraj now

Sorry to sound negative, but the way this story is moving, I don't have high hopes that the old Suraj will be back anytime soon OR ever will be back.
I will not be surprised if Chakor will come up with another master plan to trap KN and gang and Suraj just going along with it...so much hopes and so much delusion
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.


highly negative, criticizing, tired rant ahead. please do not read if you are enjoying the episodes.


why did i start watching the show?
Suraj.. a fascinating character with SUCH a phenomenal potential to be a spectacular character from the man he was to the man he could be.
SuKor: if this is the passion with which they hate each other.. imagine the way they will love. especially Suraj!

So what do i get?
a beautiful transformation of Suraj to such a precious man. - loved watching those brilliant flashes of brilliance.

and then what?

Chakor showing more intensity, passion, angst, feelings and depth for Suraj. i thought it would be other way round considering his kaands against Chakor and his intensity during 'imli' phase. looks like all his passion has been spent there.

his beautiful, sweet, poignant love for Chakor is truly touching but i would be lying if i say Chakor is not trouncing him when it comes to the sheer intensity, passion, need, desire, burning red hot fierce kind of emotions for the one she loves. She is.

and i thought she would be erecting walls and barriers around her and we will get angst, pining, going to hell and back for her from Suraj's side. the rate she is going she might say the magical words first. sigh! a walk in the park for him. and i was hoping from to hell and back journey for love for Suraj.

hope she finds some imli, Suraj pics in that jacket and finally common sense and sense of self preservation and vulnerabilities and insecurities giving a square solid knock on her head.
her feelings for Suraj are beautiful. all that missing, need and everything. but i want Suraj to be the one feeling AND showing those emotions more because between two of them i thought he is one who is more passionate, intense and dark.

and yes.. Suraj! remember your 'sood sameet promise?' are you planning to do something about it or should i stop hoping?

Dear Cvs...

Imli, Suraj, Baccha, rape attempt on Chakor - NOT minor issues but only ones who cares - US the audience.

Vengeance, retribution, payback, winning - again who cares for these things - US the audience.

are WE the only ones who care?

let me know so that i will stop caring once and for all.
i love Suraj and Chakor.
I love VJ and Meera has grown on me so much.
But thing is... i love a damn good story more. and the one you are telling is NOT the one i could enjoy without 'if onlys'.

The Suraj i want to see and the one you show - no connection.
The Chakor i want and the one i am getting - north south again.

you can tell me to change the channel if i am getting so disenchanted. tell you what? someday i just might!






Ahhh...Nimmi Di,I really get your frustrations and understand your pov as well,but we all here who have loved Suraj from day one,stood by him in every situation,desperately need on very important thing,and that is PATIENCE...yes its that indeed,we all require it very badly...

we all have loved our old badass Suraj and yearn to see him back,and he will surely return with a transformation,but let him rest for abit,its not even a day passed that he had been freed from the shackles...

We all very badly waiting for the day that he will start his vengeance mission,and are getting pissed at the fact that he has turned into a baby sitter,but its just his job,and this is all he could get for himself,after all that he had gone through...he willdefinitely live upto his 'soot samet promise',but first he needs to settle his foot...remember during olden days,when rulers were totally defeated,and snatched of all that they possessed,what they used to do,they went to some quite distant places,first to calm their minds,then they slowly ans steadily arranged for a entire new army,some arms and people as well,and then re-attacked their enemies with all their might,and it took them years to do so,history is filled with plenty of examples like that...

In the last episode,you saw the way he rubbed his wrists in full attitude,and remembered that he will turn into a baby sitter,but perhaps you forgot to notice his glare,,,,,,did anybody noticed that why he did'nt had much dialogues to say...thats because he was experiencing a storm within,it happens with all of us,the way he did'nt uttered any thing worth while,but the way his expressions were changing,and his eyes spoke a billion words...
[I was going to write about it in a different post altogether,but feeling the need to write it here itself]...I dont know about you or anybody else,but Me personally,not known to be a very egoistic person,or self arrogant...but still it happens with me,like whenever I have even a small fight with elder sis,[I love her more than myself].but still,if we are not on talking terms,even for a day,and I have to ask her for something that I am badly in need of and only she could provide it,and I have to ask her,keeping my self respect aside,I feel like burying six feet under the earth,I feel that I am disregarding my self respect,...
And here we got to witness a man who had always been known to be self-centered,he did'nt had the discipline to talk to elders,THAT PARTICULAR MAN HAD TO LITERALLY BEG FOR HIS BASIC NECESSITIES FROM HIS SERVANTS,AND HIS BIGGEST ENEMY...
can we all imagine what he must have gone through...its beyond imagination...

The man was broken of chip by chip,of his personality,the attitude he had been made off,waht he had to go through during this phase,no other bandhua had ever experienced in Azadgunj,the man was completely teared,broken,shattered inside,his soul had been torn off,he had to time and again keep aside his ARROGANCE,SELF RESPECT...
would not it be very unfair to demand some thing from him at this point...

THE CHARACTER NEEDS TIME FOR A REMODULATION AND WE ALL NEED JUST SOME AMOUNT OF PATIENCE...
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Posted: 8 years ago
Yeah would like to share an entirely different opinion on the lover Chakor...

My perception of love is very different and too deep,for me love is just love,it need not to be a RECIPROCATION,it need not be a SYMPATHY,it need not to be a RETURN...
If someone comes to you,and claims to be in love with you,you agree to it and start with the relationship...its just a RETURN,,,,,,i dont consider it to be love from any angle
For me love have to be spontaneous,and natural,it need not to have a catalyst...
I have always liked,loved and respected that kind of love stories where two lovers are madly in love with each other,INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER'S FEELINGS...


If I love a person just because,the person loves me,then its not love in its true forms...ITS MERELY A RECIPROCATION...

and this was what Chakor felt for Vivaan,he liked her,expressed it to her,proposed her,she simply RECIPROCATED it,,,,,,
But in the case of Suraj,she loves him,feels for him,entirely on her own,it has nothing to do with the fact of WHAT HE THINKS FOR HER...
Considering the fact that she was a simple,sober lover girl with Vivaan,I always wanted to see a fierce,passionate lover woman in her when it comes to Suraj...


And one more thing,we have got to witness all the shades of Chakor's love in the past few months...its all that she has
But min you all,we have got see perhaps only 10% of what Suraj feels for her,I am damn sure of it...Chakor has done with it and now its Suraj's turn...
Mind you all here,the man is a REAL INTROVERT,he holds a storm within him,thats is why he is seen to be so much calm and composed outside...
His love will hold an entire different track...I am damn sure



And there is really no need to worry,IT WILL BE SURAJ ONLY WHO WILL EXPRESS FIRST,,,,,,,,,,,,we all will definitely get to witness his passion...
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Posted: 8 years ago
Moreover a cocksure master planner that was Suraj has now been reduced to a diffident person. His locus of control is no more internal to him. We see him suffering from crisis of confidence every now n then , even when he fails to find silly odd jobs in his village - as if hes failing in ultimate objective of his life -- which the leads seem to have long forgotten. Suraj is now a mere brute force, nothing more.



A total butchering of character indeed! Why women-centricity on shows has to be shown at expense of decline in men's character, i dont understand.

And yes the way SuKor story is progressing - with selective amnesia about narital rape n imlis preg-- is speaking volumes abt the woefully negative creativity!!



i m telling myself each day to stay away from show n forum for a few weeks n concentrate on studies, the vj chaska factor is just too strong to overcome
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: geetkumar



Hey Nimmi, 🤗
Tumne to muh ki baat chheen li.
I started to seriously watch the serial because of Suraj. What a dynamic character. So much of passion and intensity. Now look at him. It seems as if some kind of inertia has settled over him. He has handed over is "dor" to Chakor and sitting ideal or should I say baby sitting as a damsel in distress waiting for his knight in shining armour (chakor) to come and rescue him.
I wonder where his devious mind has gone. The man was like a master plotter. He could anticipate his enemies 'chaal' and used to think ten steps ahead. Now look at him. I am nowhere able to connect him to the same man.
I agree that his transformation to a good man was a beautiful journey but how did he manage to loose his brain on the way is a puzzle indeed.
Then again, I shouldn't be surprised as it is an Indian serial. The Hero starts of with a bang and then some where on the way he slowly starts to fizz out.
Story of every Indian serial.
I really was hoping to see reserved Chakore as she was dumped within days by the love of her life. For her to be wary to love again and erecting lots of walls. And an intense Suraj to tear down those walls in order to win her. I wanted Suraj to go after Chakor with guns blazing but 'saari ummeeden mitti mein mil gayi.'
What we wanted to see and what the CVs are showing.
WE want to see love between a man and a woman, instead they are shown like teenagers.
Doing almost the same thing here Nimmo. Now a days I just glance through the episodes doing my other works simultaneously. While I take out time to watch the old episodes on voot at night.
And I am pretty sure many of us are sailing in the same boat.
If only we could make the creatives understand what we actually want.. (sigh...)



Geetey.
🤗.

we truly are sailing in the same boat with one hand grabbing a life-raft having made peace with the fact that we may have to bail out soon.

Dynamic character. you said it. such passion, intensity and aggression. not unhinged unguided missile kinda aggression but controlled power he could tweak and twist and wreck havoc with.

he was sinfully rich dark chocolate with a dash of coffee and warm wine.
and now he is sticky sugary sweet spun sugar pink fluffy ball.

from master plotter (perfect description again) to perpetually in need of 'Chakor'. sigh!

he not only lost his brain he lost his spine, spunk and spirit too. the moment Chakor walked back into his life... HE walked out of his own life.

and Chakor lost her brain and common sense besides lot many other senses.

her erecting walls around and him tearing those walls down with his bare hands with sheer passionate intensity... that was my ultimate fantasy.
truly mitte mein mil gaye sequence here.

same pinch girl. i used to watch live episode recording and then keep late night episode for recording (less annoying scrolls) and watch it again.
now i watch only touching Sukor scenes recording and old scenes in voot.

i so wish we could get hold of creatives. i will personally kiss hem of their robes and beg to sunle our guhaar!

@esha..
hope and delusion indeed.
hope and a little prayer and dose of delusions. voila.. that's us.😆.



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Posted: 8 years ago
guys don't worry this is chakor's time..so she misses suraj...hope cv will have great scenes for suraj later he will miss her badly..becoz this is chakor's time..but particulary i don't like mostly imli,chakor &chagavan team..😡 better cv should concentrate sukor's problem in their own way..but i don't like chagavan ,imli involve with chakor.😡
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