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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -Namita-

Introvert?? Nah, Suraj isn't an introvert. He didn't hesitate in letting others know what he though or what he wanted from them.



Namita Di,extremely sorry for disagreeing with you...
Yes Suraj was an extrovert in letting others know of what he thought,but when it comes to matters of heart,in expressing any kind of emotions,in bringing out any kind of compassion,the man is a real INTROVERT...

Like,I never knew that he loves his mother sooo deeply[he always seemed to be a very casual son],I only got it to know last week...
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Posted: 8 years ago
oh i LOVE a good discussion.
thank you Rabia for the beautiful comments and replies and for being such a sport.
i totally respect your views dearest.. but i will stand by mine.

yes he was attracted to her right from the beginning.
flirted with her and wanted her.
cared for her too. but was that enough?

coz when push came to shove; when it came to life and death: he did NOT drop imli to protect Chakor. he was ready to let imli die in a heartbeat for his mother.

that scene alone broke my heart for Chakor.
the trio.. Suraj, imli and Vivaan mouthed only dialogues at her. but NO ONE took active stance to protect her. she had to save herself and the rest. Vivaan was clear he will save his Imli, Suraj his mother.. what about Chakor?

that's why i am finding her showing NO sense of self preservation and common sense and insecurities... extremely stupid.
world including Suraj hardly gave any reason to her that they will chose her above everything.
her fiance dumped her for her sister in matter of weeks.
her husband cared for her sister and her happiness more.
her parents cared a jot for her.

i don't question her from moving on from Vivaan. the man has been such an ass it would be waste of time to pine for such entity.
what i find unbelievable is the speed and intensity with which she fell for Suraj.
yes he changed into a precious man who could go to any extent to protect her and for her happiness... but she fell for him even before his transformation.
the man tired to frigging rape you. was father of your sister's child. mouthed intense dialogues for your sister. proposed her. wanted to elope with her. so her speed and intensity of 'falling in love' astounds me. in not a pleasant way.

and what i find disappointing about Suraj that he has been a pale version of his own self from that blasted diwali rescue day. complete and utter dependence on chakor and her fighting his battles for him.
this is culmination of everything NOT only bandua track.

yes he loves her. but unless the makers gives him some intense monologues, missing Chakor, pining for her, angst and such scenes his love will look like reciprocation and jarootat only... because the dialogues he has been using are... Chakor does so much for me. she cares for me and so on.

no need to pin her to walls and go dark on her (i won't mind that) but passion and intensity are SO required from him . if not in actions atleast in thoughts. because Chakor is clearly showing both.. in actions and words and thoughts.




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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: KUTUR

@Geet-

Regarding Chakor,you wonder that how the hell Chakor so abruptly recovered from Vivaan and she was not being cautious-now let me explain this to you from my perception...actually the feeling is like that only,If any love story gets doomed for some reasons then the lover is left ignited in his/her self,but if the reason comes from the side of the lover itself,then somehow the courage comes in on the other side to move on...

Lemme explain-If Chakor would have been separated from Vivaan due to any other reason,then she would have probably turned into a 'devdaasi',longing and yearning for him...but here Vivaan openly expressed her feelings towards Imli in front of her,The poor soul Chakor had to witness her first love willingly and happily settling down with his love that too in the very front of her own eyes...this very bitter sight has given Chakor the courage to move on,the strength to wipe him off her life...this is it
If you really witness,your lover forgetting everything and moving on,then it really helps it out for you as well to move on...and thats exactly happened with Chakor...
That is why it became so easier for her to recover from Vivaan...


Great analysis Rabia.
I accept what you are saying here. Chakor Should not pine for Vivaan at all as the jerk didn't give two hoots about her. Infact I am quite happy that she moved on. I don't even count Vivaan here. I am not even complaining why she fell for Suraj. Of course Suraj is the one for her. Hell, I want to see them together. But what is bothering me is the speed with which she fell for Suraj. Yes Suraj changed and he deserves chakor. But What I feel is that the Cvs are rushing through this. How can you not have a slightest bit of reservation for a man who loved her sister. Because Suraj was very vocal about loving Imli. He decorated the entire 'Haveli' for Imli. As far as I remember a few episodes back she also said in front of KN that Suraj has had his share of punishment and done his share of penance as he lost the love of his life. That means she still believes that Suraj loves Imli. And Suraj also did not correct her. (Though we as audience know that he never loved Imli.She was just an infatuation) But does Chakor know that?
So please clear my doubt that why is she not cautious that she might be hurt again. I am still not getting my question answered that why doesn't she have any reservation, even a tiny one ?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: KUTUR

Would like to share one opinion especially for Nimmi di and Geet that Suraj's love for Chakor could never be assigned the tag of RECIPROCATION...

If it comes to physicality,Suraj lose out coz he is not a virgin whereas Chakor is...Bit when it comes to emotional [which matters more],matters...Chakor loses out as It was Suraj who was always connected to her some way...it is just few months back that we got to witness that Chakor can feel even this way for him...
But his feelings for her dates back to the time when she entered azadgunj after years...

The moment he saw her,he was attracted to her,this is what prompted him to flirt with her time and again,as lamely running behind a girl was not his cup of tea,it was his own way...actually,the thing is that he had been always super-obsessed with her...but he wanted to see her defeated as well...Suraj's previous equations with Chakor had been like-AFTER YOU TO BE WITH YOU,AGAINST YOU TO FEEL YOU...much like the song,"TU HI KHWAHISH,TU HI KHATRA,ZEHER TERA DIL MEIN UTRAA"

But if we talk of now,Suraj does not feels for her,or cares for her simply to return her favours or just because he wants to reciprocate her feelings,,,,,,,,
Chakor came up to his rescue when she learned about the conspiracy against him...and slowly she started feeling for him...
But Suraj's concern and silent care[which he himself never acknowledged] for her dates much back-
1.During Imvaan's reception,he insulted her in front of the guests,but still there was few second scene with Sukor aside,where she was about to fall,and he held her by her arm in full attitude,to avoid her from tripping.
2.after the jagraata night,when he was dragging her to her parents home,and Chakor was pricked by a thorn,he stopped,himself took out the thorn off her feet...and then even carried her in his arms to her house.
3.he just sprang like Usain Bolt,during the navraatri dance,he just could not withstand her falling and getting hurt.
4.the very next day,he broke the door for her and carried her in his arms,when she fainted,did not anyone noticed the yearning in his attitude when she was suffocating
5.when the 4 were kidnapped,and there was a point when Chakor was ready to end her life for saving the rest three,what he said..."Zyaadah herogiri dikhaane ki zarurat nahi hai,tumne,yeh bhi nahi socha ki agar tumhe kuch ho jaata,toh hum ladenge kiske saath,hamaari zindagi se toh saara mazaa hi chala jaata'
6.there was scene after kn returned that he wanted to make a deal with Chkor,when Suraj returned home,he got to know it from her mother that kn had gone to meet Chakor in her home,What he did...his expressions,the way he immediately rushed to see if she was ok






1.during there night stay in the village,on their way to delhi...in the rain...they were both discussing if their future partners,Chakor wants someone in complete contrast to him...and he gives an account exactly resembling her,the way he was saying all those,I felt as if he was trying to know the truth of what SHE FEELS FOR HIM...but sadly the way she reacted,suraj immediately stepped back
2.During the drunk sequence also,It was Suraj for whom IT MATTERED THAT ONE DAY THE DUO WILL BE SEPARATED...he asked this to her,then also he she did not uttered anything worthwhile...
3.Even after the dangal sequence,when she was applying ointment,IT WAS SURAJ WHO QUESTIONED HER OF WHY SHE CARES SO MUCH FOR HIM...then also he was left disappinted...


The fact is The horrid things he had done in the past,he just does not expresses himself fully even in front of Chakor...he was known to be 'self-centered','self-loving'...but the way things have been unfolded off lately in his life and thanks to the people around him,he had been turned into a SELF-HATER...
That is the reason why he appears to be so much restrained in his feelings development for Chakor...
The man respects her so much that he even hesitates to touch her,how could we expect passion...


AND LASTLY,TAGGING HIS FEELINGS FOR CHAKOR AS RECIPROCATION WOULD BE UNFAIR.VERY,VERY UNFAIR...






Here also I completely agree with you. What Suraj feels for Chakor is not reciprocation. He has genuinely fallen for chakor. And we were desperately waiting for that. But where are his dialogues or monologues? Again we see the action happening from Chakor's side. He is not even giving a hint to chakor that he is in love with her. All he is blabbering is that "Chakor you saved me, I would have died If you wouldn't have been there, I am forever grateful to you, You have done so much for me and my mother." and yada yada yada.

And yes,Chakor always wins hands on,when showing the passion...but what about any verbal acknowledgement...It is Suraj who always wins here...
Chakor always gets to show her passion for him through her actions,but Suraj always yearns for a reason behind it, I believe that he always waits for a green signal from her side.

This is exactly what I wanted to say. The girl has actually given the green signal. In her inebriated condition she said 'Suraj tum humme bohot achhe lagte ho" What more green signal does he want?

1.during their night stay in the village,on their way to Delhi...in the rain...they were both discussing if their future partners,Chakor wants someone in complete contrast to him...and he gives an account exactly resembling her,the way he was saying all those,I felt as if he was trying to know the truth of what SHE FEELS FOR HIM...but sadly the way she reacted,suraj immediately stepped back.


2.During the drunk sequence also,It was Suraj for whom IT MATTERED THAT ONE DAY THE DUO WILL BE SEPARATED...he asked this to her,then also he she did not uttered anything worthwhile...
3.Even after the dangal sequence,when she was applying ointment,IT WAS SURAJ WHO QUESTIONED HER OF WHY SHE CARES SO MUCH FOR HIM...then also he was left disappinted...


The fact is The horrid things he had done in the past,he just does not expresses himself fully even in front of Chakor...he was known to be 'self-centered','self-loving'...but the way things have been unfolded off lately in his life and thanks to the people around him,he had been turned into a SELF-HATER...
That is the reason why he appears to be so much restrained in his feelings development for Chakor...
The man respects her so much that he even hesitates to touch her,how could we expect passion...

Chalo ye sab maine maan liya. But still I want to see a little bit of fire in Suraj. That was his core essence. If not in case of Chakor (agreed he needs time) what about his vengeance from KN. We want to see the story developing not only from Chakor's angle but also from Suraj's side.
(*PS: I hope I am not upsetting you. In Fact I find your arguments are quite refreshing . I also feel you could be a very good psychologist or a lawyer.😉 )
Edited by geetkumar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: KUTUR



Namita Di,extremely sorry for disagreeing with you...
Yes Suraj was an extrovert in letting others know of what he thought,but when it comes to matters of heart,in expressing any kind of emotions,in bringing out any kind of compassion,the man is a real INTROVERT...

Like,I never knew that he loves his mother sooo deeply[he always seemed to be a very casual son],I only got it to know last week...



As far as I can remember Suraj was very verbal and passionate about his feelings for Imli, what abt that part ?????
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

oh i LOVE a good discussion.
thank you Rabia for the beautiful comments and replies and for being such a sport.
i totally respect your views dearest.. but i will stand by mine.

yes he was attracted to her right from the beginning.
flirted with her and wanted her.
cared for her too. but was that enough?

coz when push came to shove; when it came to life and death: he did NOT drop imli to protect Chakor. he was ready to let imli die in a heartbeat for his mother.

that scene alone broke my heart for Chakor.
the trio.. Suraj, imli and Vivaan mouthed only dialogues at her. but NO ONE took active stance to protect her. she had to save herself and the rest. Vivaan was clear he will save his Imli, Suraj his mother.. what about Chakor?

that's why i am finding her showing NO sense of self preservation and common sense and insecurities... extremely stupid.
world including Suraj hardly gave any reason to her that they will chose her above everything.
her fiance dumped her for her sister in matter of weeks.
her husband cared for her sister and her happiness more.
her parents cared a jot for her.

i don't question her from moving on from Vivaan. the man has been such an ass it would be waste of time to pine for such entity.
what i find unbelievable is the speed and intensity with which she fell for Suraj.
yes he changed into a precious man who could go to any extent to protect her and for her happiness... but she fell for him even before his transformation.
the man tired to frigging rape you. was father of your sister's child. mouthed intense dialogues for your sister. proposed her. wanted to elope with her. so her speed and intensity of 'falling in love' astounds me. in not a pleasant way.

and what i find disappointing about Suraj that he has been a pale version of his own self from that blasted diwali rescue day. complete and utter dependence on chakor and her fighting his battles for him.
this is culmination of everything NOT only bandua track.

yes he loves her. but unless the makers gives him some intense monologues, missing Chakor, pining for her, angst and such scenes his love will look like reciprocation and jarootat only... because the dialogues he has been using are... Chakor does so much for me. she cares for me and so on.

no need to pin her to walls and go dark on her (i won't mind that) but passion and intensity are SO required from him . if not in actions atleast in thoughts. because Chakor is clearly showing both.. in actions and words and thoughts.





@ bold : 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
I agree with everything you said, but this part ...word dear 👍🏼


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: KUTUR



I am enjoying the episodes when sukor scenes and even Kn plotting scenes are being shown...

But whenever I am getting to see,Chakor,Imli and Chagan hatching out their own plans,I am feeling like taking a heavy object and striking with it hard on their heads,😡
Their 'divide and rule' planning seemed a very impotent one...I really wish it by heart that trio gets a very big failure in this plan of theirs...😈

I really dont want anyone to interfere in any plans against KN,either it should be planned and executed entirely by Sukor or the four...and no one else😛

Ya rabia i couldn't tolerate chakor,imli and chagan 's team..i also really wish it that it's gets big failure ...so irrirate their handshack and yeh hounslon play... for them...😡i can't still believe that chagavan so soon he will turn against chakor&imli..girs did u notice yesterday episode...?he said to chakor imli...if vivan babu stayed with them ?😕..it will be great team😉 it means that he try to problem create between imvaan. I hope chagavan is a bachuva daddy of imli's child😉..kn &ragini must be have another plan to trap sukor😉
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: eshasrk


@ bold : 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
I agree with everything you said, but this part ...word dear 👍🏼



Nimmi n Esha, I third that..that mess needs some closure..
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

oh i LOVE a good discussion.
thank you Rabia for the beautiful comments and replies and for being such a sport.
i totally respect your views dearest.. but i will stand by mine.

yes he was attracted to her right from the beginning.
flirted with her and wanted her.
cared for her too. but was that enough?

coz when push came to shove; when it came to life and death: he did NOT drop imli to protect Chakor. he was ready to let imli die in a heartbeat for his mother.

that scene alone broke my heart for Chakor.
the trio.. Suraj, imli and Vivaan mouthed only dialogues at her. but NO ONE took active stance to protect her. she had to save herself and the rest. Vivaan was clear he will save his Imli, Suraj his mother.. what about Chakor?

that's why i am finding her showing NO sense of self preservation and common sense and insecurities... extremely stupid.
world including Suraj hardly gave any reason to her that they will chose her above everything.
her fiance dumped her for her sister in matter of weeks.
her husband cared for her sister and her happiness more.
her parents cared a jot for her.

i don't question her from moving on from Vivaan. the man has been such an ass it would be waste of time to pine for such entity.
what i find unbelievable is the speed and intensity with which she fell for Suraj.
yes he changed into a precious man who could go to any extent to protect her and for her happiness... but she fell for him even before his transformation.
the man tired to frigging rape you. was father of your sister's child. mouthed intense dialogues for your sister. proposed her. wanted to elope with her. so her speed and intensity of 'falling in love' astounds me. in not a pleasant way.

and what i find disappointing about Suraj that he has been a pale version of his own self from that blasted diwali rescue day. complete and utter dependence on chakor and her fighting his battles for him.
this is culmination of everything NOT only bandua track.

yes he loves her. but unless the makers gives him some intense monologues, missing Chakor, pining for her, angst and such scenes his love will look like reciprocation and jarootat only... because the dialogues he has been using are... Chakor does so much for me. she cares for me and so on.

no need to pin her to walls and go dark on her (i won't mind that) but passion and intensity are SO required from him . if not in actions atleast in thoughts. because Chakor is clearly showing both.. in actions and words and thoughts.






Nimmi Honey,
Are we the only two who are unhappy with the ongoing and upcoming track?
I loved suraj. I still do. I loved his dark side. And I Loved his transformation, him coming towards the light. But still I feel that something is missing(as if Suraj has lost his edge). Are we expecting too much?

what i find unbelievable is the speed and intensity with which she fell for Suraj.
yes he changed into a precious man who could go to any extent to protect her and for her happiness... but she fell for him even before his transformation.
the man tired to frigging rape you. was father of your sister's child. mouthed intense dialogues for your sister. proposed her. wanted to elope with her. so her speed and intensity of 'falling in love' astounds me. in not a pleasant way.

and what i find disappointing about Suraj that he has been a pale version of his own self from that blasted diwali rescue day. complete and utter dependence on chakor and her fighting his battles for him.
this is culmination of everything NOT only bandua track.

yes he loves her. but unless the makers gives him some intense monologues, missing Chakor, pining for her, angst and such scenes his love will look like reciprocation and jarootat only... because the dialogues he has been using are... Chakor does so much for me. she cares for me and so on.

Honestly, I am still stuck here and just can't think away and beyond that. I am so desperately waiting for Suraj to take the front seat and the rein in his hands!!
Or am I just too stubborn to change my mind???

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Posted: 8 years ago
I desperately want Suraj's monologues regarding Chakor and loving her.
When are the CV's going to give us that!!!

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