The Laws of Manu - Nepo Defenders - Page 9

Originally posted by: pathaka

Ok so in most other fields u can decide who is more deserving based on marks , scores, exam results etc. there is a quantitative assessment . A right and wrong clearly defined and prerequisites clearly defined. 

how does one decide who is deserving in films ? who decides who is deserving? 
say kangana and aliaa are abt to debut at the same time....

They both audition for a role

Now one producer might think kangana is the best thing since sridevi and the other might think she’s totally untalented..it is highly likely someone dosent like ur audition or work no matter how talented u think u are

Both are entitled to have their opinion...

So who can point a finger at the latter and say he took away an opportunity from a “deserving” candidate? Deserving according to whom?

The producer / director put money on their films and they get to decide whom to hire...the hiring of someone is based on how much they “liked” an audition which itself is a subjective assessment ...

Ever thought that the so called “deserving candidates” u harp about might just be ur opinion and someone can beg to differ? Maybe someone who is investing crores wants to play it safe and hire a nepo face? Maybe the nepo kid suits the part better than the talented outsider?

There are several reasons for someone getting a film ...if they are a talentless hack, they would flop anyway..

As to “why is life be easier for some people than others” 

Ask urself that question the next time u sit down for a meal and someone somewhere in the world probably didn’t have food for 10 days

Would u stop eating ur food to make it a “level field” or rather put food on that someone’s plate? 

@bold, loads of maybees here. Maybe it's the truth, maybe it's not. Our choice what to believe and what not? What's wrong in that?

Originally posted by: FreeTheNipple

Sorry to say but you don't understand corruption, not all forms of corruption are illegal. Corruption is not defined by criminal jurisprudence. That is a circular logic.

Also, your appeal to nature in your original post is a totally bogus and fallacious argument.

Read this for starters, I can follow with further links if you want:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/corruption/

You might want to search for "nepotism" in the page since it is a long entry of SEP on corruption.

Nope. You made the snarky remark about reading philosophy texts. So the onus is on you to prove nepotism of a PRIVATE individual or company (not government or publicly traded entity) is corruption. 😆

Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

@bold, loads of maybees here. Maybe it's the truth, maybe it's not. Our choice what to believe and what not? What's wrong in that?

The point of the maybes is to highlight that the situation isn’t black and white like many think...I’ve seen many here equate decisions to hire nepo kids as a criminal offense 😂

Originally posted by: pathaka

The point of the maybes is to highlight that the situation isn’t black and white like many think...I’ve seen many here equate decisions to hire nepo kids as a criminal offense 😂

Ummm... in US, corporations have paid millions in settlements bc hiring managers have hired someone bc they knew someone at the company and tabled people even if they were qualified.

There is even a case where Two South Indians discriminating again another South Indian bc he was of lower caste. Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cisco-lawsuit-idUSKBN2423YE

It’s not a criminal but a civil case. 

Originally posted by: pathaka

.I’ve seen many here equate decisions to hire nepo kids as a criminal offense 😂

Lock them up 😆

Originally posted by: Kaya65

Harley_Quinn

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

🤢 Now that's a criminal attitude. 

A Kangana attitude 😆

Originally posted by: Pappu.Pager

Ummm... in US, corporations have paid millions in settlements bc hiring managers have hired someone bc they knew someone at the company and tabled people even if they were qualified.

There is even a case where Two South Indians discriminating again another South Indian bc he was of lower caste. Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cisco-lawsuit-idUSKBN2423YE

It’s not a criminal but a civil case. 

Like I said, in industries where there is quantitative assessments and pre requisites, that is what competence is decided by and u can form a civil case if ur denied opportunities despite meeting prerequisites 

Who decides who is professionally competent in bollywood? 

is there mark sheets, interviews ? Designed pre requisites? licensing that has to be acquired? 
Or is it based on i “like” this actor and I’m going to hire him?

Originally posted by: Pappu.Pager

Ummm... in US, corporations have paid millions in settlements bc hiring managers have hired someone bc they knew someone at the company and tabled people even if they were qualified.

There is even a case where Two South Indians discriminating again another South Indian bc he was of lower caste. Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cisco-lawsuit-idUSKBN2423YE

It’s not a criminal but a civil case. 

Nepotism is not the same as casteism/racism/sexism. Even if CISCO case was nepotism related (which it isn't), CISCO is publicly traded and answerable to government and stock holders. Mot BW production houses are privately held. They can hire only people of a certain ear shape if they so choose.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Nope. You made the snarky remark about reading philosophy texts. So the onus is on you to prove nepotism of a PRIVATE individual or company (not government or publicly traded entity) is corruption. 😆

It is not a proof, these are arguments. Unless it is mathematics or logic, nothing can be proved in philosophy or science. Damn who am I arguing with here. That SEP entry is not about government or publicly traded entity. Nepotism is nepotism, the same arguments mentioned there apply to nepotism of a private company as long as there are other parties involved in that company. it may or may not be illegal. It doesn't have to publicly traded. But I see you are not interested in exploring the POV or accepting mistake rather want to change goal posts here to define a new term called "nepotism of a private individual".