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@featherheart

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Posted: 13 years ago

#51

stefan is nt selfsh nd yup elena nd stefan were great togdr...but its lyk elena nd damon r fr each oder...
i feel dat damon is sumthng dat really consumes elena nd obvsly dat wat she wants...
i jst cnt explain but yeah damon is fr her...

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Lizzie Mathew

@-Lizzie-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: Missscarlett

First of all lemme ask u something Whats ua age? Let me tell u something... M nt a hormonal teenager and i am pretty sure what love is. Which is why i ship se... True love is not something that comsumes u but its what sustains you. Its not a fire that destorys u. Loving someone doesnt mean that u get lost in that person and not see the world. Loving someone doesnt mean that u go about killing and destorying things and ppl that come in between the person You love and yourself. Loving someone means loving and caring about all the people the person u love loves not tormenting them. It means letting the person u love make their own decisions and not forcing vampire blood down their throat just to keep them alive. It does not mean controling a person but setting them free. If damon loves elena so much than why was he always persuing her unlike stefan who accepted that she has feelings for damon too in season 3? Couldnt he let her go and leave town? And also tell me how come damon spent loving katherine for a hundreds of years and then suddenly jumped to elena when he saw that she was with stefan? The speed at which damon fell out of love with katherine (who he claimed to love so much) and fell in love with elena is remarkable . And i say this again elena is stefan's one true love. He never loved anyone before her and i dont think he can ever love anyone after her. U dont tell me what love is. I am sure i already know
U know what love in books is? A handsome man comes and sweep u off feet and makes u forget the world but real life doesnt work like that. Love doesnt know all bounds. Love is blind... Yeh sabh sirf filmo mein accha lagta hai... In real life ppl just dont 'fall' in love with any person. Sure we get attracted just by looking at the person. But what type of a person he is, do we get along well, is he a good person, what are his values and beliefs is what makes u fall in love with them. If the person doesnt respect my decisions or my family and friends, he can go to hell no matter how passiontely he loves me. This is how adults and mature ppl fall in love.
And yes, i do believe that if u want to be loved u should prove that u deserve love by being a good caring person. And no i dont believe that a person can fall in love with 2 people. Because true love happens only once.

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well said shweta!! couldnt agree with you more!!!

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Lizzie Mathew

@-Lizzie-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#53

Well i would like to add my two cents to it!!! Here i read that many comments saying that there were loopholes in Stelena's love!! It was not true love and if it was Elena wouldnt have left Stefan and fallen in love with Damon. Well Damon is madly in love with Elena!! But if i remember clearly he was madly in love with Katherine too and that too for more than a few hundred years. True Katherine was cheating on both of them and he was heart broken!! But is it so easy to forget someone whom you have loved for hundreds of years??

Fine let's leave Katherine from the picture. Elena has chosen Stefan over Damon plenty of times. Still Damon doesnt give up although he tried. Elena breaks up with Stefan and makes out with Damon. They fall in love. What proof do you have that Damon wont leave his true love Elena just like Katherine. After all he had claimed before that his true love was Katherine.

In my comment im not bashing Damon!! Im just justifying SteLena and why i choose them over DeLena!!

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Maddy

@iMadz

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+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: Missscarlett

First of all lemme ask u something Whats ua age? Let me tell u something... M nt a hormonal teenager and i am pretty sure what love is. Which is why i ship se... True love is not something that comsumes u but its what sustains you. Its not a fire that destorys u. Loving someone doesnt mean that u get lost in that person and not see the world. Loving someone doesnt mean that u go about killing and destorying things and ppl that come in between the person You love and yourself. Loving someone means loving and caring about all the people the person u love loves not tormenting them. It means letting the person u love make their own decisions and not forcing vampire blood down their throat just to keep them alive. It does not mean controling a person but setting them free. If damon loves elena so much than why was he always persuing her unlike stefan who accepted that she has feelings for damon too in season 3? Couldnt he let her go and leave town? And also tell me how come damon spent loving katherine for a hundreds of years and then suddenly jumped to elena when he saw that she was with stefan? The speed at which damon fell out of love with katherine (who he claimed to love so much) and fell in love with elena is remarkable . And i say this again elena is stefan's one true love. He never loved anyone before her and i dont think he can ever love anyone after her. U dont tell me what love is. I am sure i already know
U know what love in books is? A handsome man comes and sweep u off feet and makes u forget the world but real life doesnt work like that. Love doesnt know all bounds. Love is blind... Yeh sabh sirf filmo mein accha lagta hai... In real life ppl just dont 'fall' in love with any person. Sure we get attracted just by looking at the person. But what type of a person he is, do we get along well, is he a good person, what are his values and beliefs is what makes u fall in love with them. If the person doesnt respect my decisions or my family and friends, he can go to hell no matter how passiontely he loves me. This is how adults and mature ppl fall in love.
And yes, i do believe that if u want to be loved u should prove that u deserve love by being a good caring person. And no i dont believe that a person can fall in love with 2 people. Because true love happens only once.

Seriously? Don't even go there, sweetie. I am far across that teenage phase. I am 23. And may be you should watch Season 4 first and then talk about Damon not leaving town and not letting Elena go, and all shit. Coz half knowledge is dangerous. And I feel like you all live in past, Damon did this to Elena, Damon did that to Elena. No one is exactly watching what Damon has become for Elena. Yes. Damon did that mistake, BUT have you really chosen to forgot that he regretted it and presented him to Klaus as a Vampire in the ritual? And most important, he apologized to Elena and she forgave him. Why past events keep coming back? And trust me, you don't wanna make me start on how S has become in S4 with the madness called cure and what he did to Jeremy and all. I don't wanna talk about that and discuss S. I am past that level. Don't even ask or try to discuss with me. No comments on S.

And in real life, too. Love is Blind. May be you have not seen it yet, but I have. That's why I said it. Don't wanna believe? Fine. And Damon's value, I don't even walk talk if you are not willing to accept that Damon is a very good and even better person. And YES. There are two sides of Love, one is Dark, Dangerous and another is Safe. I am mature enough to accept that S' love for Elena is safe, sweet and all goody. And Damon's love is really consuming, dangerous and passionate. That's my choice. What's the point in falling in love when you don't even drawn into it and consume by it? And about all this talk you did about Love, then why can't you even once accept that whatever it is, Damon does love Elena. Its not cheap 'Hitting' or 'Wooing' or 'Lust' or 'Sex', if it would have been that cheap, Damon would take advantage of Elena before so long time. Why did you think he compelled Elena to forgot his confession? Why? Tell me honestly. And FYI, your great good brother S has so called 'observed'/stalked Elena for 3 months and made sure that she was not Katherine and then entered her life to know her. Damon knew her even before and within 5 seconds he knew she was not Katherine. Damon never chased Elena, and about stalking S should win coz he was there 'observing' Elena for 3 months. Coming to DE relation. It was all mutual, may be you should also read my very first reply where I explained entire DE journey. Everything was mutual, Elena was his friend. Tell me, why Elena saved his life, twice? She could have let him die. They were friends, for god sake. Damon was not Elena's puppy. They hated each other and with a deep understanding they became friends. And these are not even my words, Elena herself stated that she and Damon has something.

I don't get one thing. Me, being DE shipper, and a hardcore Damon fan, understands what SE has and still sees the good side of S, why in the hell, for once, you can't even accept that Damon is a good person and DE has something? Or you have just simply ignored all DE scenes in all 4 seasons? Or you have not watched DE and Damon scenes? Or you don't wanna accept it? Anyone can tell today that Damon has changed, of course, if he is being honest with his self. In the very last episode, Damon did set her free. Damon did the right thing for Elena and S. Have you watched that? Coz, season 4 has changed so many things? For example, till 322 I used to discuss S even and tried to like him(though I failed) and now, I don't even take his name. A lot of things changed. And Elena had feelings for Damon even when she was human. Even JP said that. You don't wanna accept? Bad for you. This season will be painful for you then, since you don't even wanna see the good side of Damon and DE. Damon's journey is the center of this season, not me, JP saying this all the time.

'Love happens only once' is not true. Epic love happens once, but you can't spent your entire life without anyone. You talked so much about real life and you can't see, an entire life spending alone is a JOKE! A Sad joke. No one can do that. No one. Love can happen again, but not the same, but it can happen. And I rest my case in DEFEAT when you don't wanna even accept that two persons can fall in love with one person. And Damon never really loved Katherine, honey. He was over-obsessed with her. And when Katherine rejected him for S, this was his last straw, now Damon can never go back to her, we saw that how conveniently he avoided Kat in past.

And about one thing, is SE love is so 'Epic' then Johnny Depp is idiot! 😆 (Please don't get started on that. I love Johnny Depp, so much, and I think he is my private property, I can say him anything! I so love that sexiest man alive on earth! 😳) Coz, he said something like this,

"if you love two people at the same time, choose the second. Because if you really loved the first one, you wouldn't have fallen for the second."

If this is true, which is actually, true, I always asked one question, when did Elena have feeling for Damon when their love was perfect? Elena is stupid, just once she has to google this, read this and THINK deeply on this. 😆

BUT

If you seriously hold this view on love then I am very happy to announce that I give up. According to you, Falling in love with brother's girl is oh-so-big-crime and love happens only once and it should be all safe in four walls and Damon is not even a good person with no values and morals, then seriously girl

I don't wanna even discuss now, coz there are conflicts of principles, values and belief. What I see is different and what you see is different. I tried to get to your good side by being all good but apparently, you are not that welcoming. 😊 And, I can be baddest of all, rude and all, but that is not my choice here. I still respect your love for S and SE, but personally that is not my choice. And you not liking Damon and DE, and their love is just cheap or time pass 'hitting' or 'wooing' for you then really, honey. I am sorry. I really don't wanna talk now. You win. 😊

Be happy. Love your great S and love your 'Epic' SE. Just be happy loving them. And let me be happy with Damon and DE. 😊

Edited by iMadz - 13 years ago

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Maddy

@iMadz

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: lizzie_ROFL
Well i would like to add my two cents to it!!! Here i read that many comments saying that there were loopholes in Stelena's love!! It was not true love and if it was Elena wouldnt have left Stefan and fallen in love with Damon. Well Damon is madly in love with Elena!! But if i remember clearly he was madly in love with Katherine too and that too for more than a few hundred years. True Katherine was cheating on both of them and he was heart broken!! But is it so easy to forget someone whom you have loved for hundreds of years??

Fine let's leave Katherine from the picture. Elena has chosen Stefan over Damon plenty of times. Still Damon doesnt give up although he tried. Elena breaks up with Stefan and makes out with Damon. They fall in love. What proof do you have that Damon wont leave his true love Elena just like Katherine. After all he had claimed before that his true love was Katherine.

In my comment im not bashing Damon!! Im just justifying SteLena and why i choose them over DeLena!!

Damon never really loved Katherine. It was over-obsession. Lust. They were not even in relation, according to me, it was just passionate-physical-comfort-convenient way for two people. Katherine fooled him, she only truly loved S and cared for Damon but Damon was, unfortunately stupid, idiot and blind (Hurts to say that but its true! Apperantly, I love Damon and I think he is my private property and I can say whatever to him, whatever I like! 😃) to trust that bitch Katherine(I like Kat for being so bad and all spark and spunk she has!😳)

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Lizzie Mathew

@-Lizzie-

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#56

Switching between Damon and Stefan doesnt make Elena a saint either. It might be true love for Damon but it might not be the same for Elena! What if she sees Damon as only a source of comfort, to forget all the horrible things that happened to her, because of her! A source of distratcion for her. For Damon,Katherine was "over-obsession., it was just passionate-physical-comfort-convenient way for two people."

It might be the same for Elena as it was for Damon with Katherine.

But honestly i feel that Elena is the most selfish. Choosing Stefan before, breaking up with Stefan and choosing Damon now. She is treating Damon and Stefan as two toys, doing as she likes!! Its always been Elena!

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Maddy

@iMadz

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#57

@ Misscarlett (whatever)

THREE THINGS.

First. You got personal, not me. 😳 You were all eager to know my age and now that you know you have started judging me by it and my thoughts. Which is so not cool, and literally...Leave it. I don't wanna use the word. 😆

Second. Where the hell have I bashed S here? WHERE? And WHEN? I am serious. SHOW ME, Proofs. I wanna know where the hell I bashed him and why the hell I don't even know? Am I that unobservant that I bash someone and don't even know it? 😆

Three. Trust me about NOT being nice, huh, I can beat you in that with a huge margin. 😳 Why you seem mad? You should be happy with all your SE and S supporters here? Instead, I am all cool and calm when I am defending Damon and DE alone from the evening! 🤢 😆 Literally, I am tired. 🤢 Seems like I am the only person in world who loves Damon this much and DE, too.

Look. I am not interested anymore. I know one thing. I have never disrespected SE's relation, I have never cheapened their relation. Never. While, all evening, you disrespected DE and Damon. Not good person and blah blah blah...but FINE. I am okay with that too. And I don't wanna make you accept anything. I already told you, I GIVE UP. You got mad, not me. 😊 I accepted my defeat, I accepted SE is great and S is great. I was out. 😊 This thread is all about SE.

And lastly, I still do not fight with 'Real' person over 'Fictional' characters. I am all good now too. Example - My best friends ship SE. Can you believe that? 😭 I have to fight with her everyday and then make up and forget and next day fight again. 😆 From season 4, I am winning most of the time. 😛 So, basically, apart from all these debate over dislikes, I am still good with this little dislike over S/D. 😛 May be you ship any other person rather than SE or S, and I ship him/her/them too then we can write hell long essays appreciating them. 😆 Because, I definitely know one thing by now, we both love typing/writing so much! 😉

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Maddy

@iMadz

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: lizzie_ROFL
Switching between Damon and Stefan doesnt make Elena a saint either. It might be true love for Damon but it might not be the same for Elena! What if she sees Damon as only a source of comfort, to forget all the horrible things that happened to her, because of her! A source of distratcion for her. For Damon,Katherine was "over-obsession., it was just passionate-physical-comfort-convenient way for two people."
It might be the same for Elena as it was for Damon with Katherine.

But honestly i feel that Elena is the most selfish. Choosing Stefan before, breaking up with Stefan and choosing Damon now. She is treating Damon and Stefan as two toys, doing as she likes!! Its always been Elena!

YES. That is what season 4 all about. Knowing the intensity of Elena's feelings. Everyone knows they are real but no one knows how REAL are they. We will know by the end of Season 4. 😊

Poor Elena. 😆 When she was with S, Damon lovers hated her. Now, she is with Damon, S lovers hate her. No one likes her. I, myself, hated Elena when she treated Damon like crap in the past. 😊 Now also, I do not trust her. She can do anything, she can run back to S. But from last 4-5 episodes, I started believing her, little by little. Not whole. Just step by step. One thing is sure, Vampire Elena is far more better than Human 'Becahri-Abla-Nari' Elena. This is bad ass Elena, you don't mess with her. 😆

Edited by iMadz - 13 years ago

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Lizzie Mathew

@-Lizzie-

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: iMadz

YES. That is what season 4 all about. Knowing the intensity of Elena's feelings. Everyone knows they are real but no one knows how REAL are they. We will know by the end of Season 4. 😊

Poor Elena. 😆 When she was with S, Damon lovers hated her. Now, she is with Damon, S lovers hate her. No one likes her. I, myself, hated Elena when she treated Damon like crap in the past. 😊 Now also, I do not trust her. She can do anything, she can run back to S. But from last 4-5 episodes, I started believing her, little by little. Not whole. Just step by step. One thing is sure, Vampire Elena is far more better than Human 'Becahri-Abla-Nari' Elena. This is bad ass Elena, you don't mess with her. 😆

Nopes!! Its not because she chose Damon now or Stefan before that i call her selfish!! Honestly i dont care about who she chooses now!! Its not only stefan and Damon!!!Definitely not!! Its just that i gave an example of Stefan and Damon!! These two are not the only ones who sacrificed themselves, their families for Elena!!

I dont want to go more in depth about it!! Because it would take pages and pages to explain what i mean and also the main topic is not about how selfish Elena is!!

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Maddy

@iMadz

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: lizzie_ROFL

Nopes!! Its not because she chose Damon now or Stefan before that i call her selfish!! Honestly i dont care about who she chooses now!! Its not only stefan and Damon!!!Definitely not!! Its just that i gave an example of Stefan and Damon!! These two are not the only ones who sacrificed themselves, their families for Elena!!
I dont want to go more in depth about it!! Because it would take pages and pages to explain what i mean and also the main topic is not about how selfish Elena is!!

Well then nothing can be said coz she is the main lead, Elena is TVD's center character. It will be always about her, whether we like it, or we like her not. 😊 Leave it. On Elena, even I have nothing to say.

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