for all delena fans. (stelena fans too) - Page 4

Originally posted by: Ayuzawa

So wait i didn't get you. What you mean to say is that damon's complete disregard for a human life is right just because he is honest about it? And Stefan is a hypocrite because he doesn't agree of damon killing people? Please answer this question as i did not understand what your view on this was.

As i said Stefan never said he is better than damon. Not once. Stefan just doesn't agree with killing people and hence he tries his best to not hurt them and submerge his ripper side. I didn't understand why Stefan is a hypocrite if he is trying to be good. In fact when he said he believed that damon could be saved he meant that he believed that damon would learn to respect humans. How is Stefan blaming anyone for his mistakes?? I am extremely confused about it.😕

As for Stefan killing vampire well the fact is vampires are dead. Yes it will be hurt full but still they are not supposed to be alive in the 1^st place. If tomorrow god forbid someone does kill Stefan or damon we cannot blame him though we will be heartbroken because no one is supposed to live 160 years. Even in fiction rules are rules.

And again if Stefan was selfish he wouldn't have stopped damon from leaving town in 04x03.

And since you say that Elena has almost lost everyone she love thats all the more reason for her to hold on to damon if she loves him. I mean if you don't realize your love when the person you love is about to die what is the use of it?

As for choosing damon's safety over searching for Stefan well damon had almost died of a werewolf bite an Stefan had sacrificed everything to heal him so how could she let that happen again. Its not like she chose damon's life over Stefan. No matter even if she didnot find Stefan he was safe. But damon was not so she went for damon's safety.

And as for damon sleeping with rebekah. Elena was jealous and that was evident but she had never given up on Stefan. And going back to Stefan when had she gone to damon in the 1^st place?

As for elena's feelings towards Stefan it was implied by delena fans that she chose Stefan because he is a safe choice. Because she knows he would never hurt her. So just assumed what delena fans have said. And again i know you have not read the book and that the book story is totally different but the characters of damon Elena and Stefan are same. And in fact their love story and the dynamics of their love story is the exactly same. So Elena mentions there that her love for damon makes her feel strong and powerful. It consumes her. But her love for Stefan makes her feel safe. Like the feeling when after a long time one has reached home. And when Elena picks Stefan she says Elena tells him: "I love him Damon. He came into my life at a time when I needed someone and I fell for him instantly. No matter what I feel for you, I never unfell for him." That speaks for itself. Also about damon's love being consuming Elena also described stefan's love when matt asked her if she thinks she owes Stefan she denies it. She says that she loves Stefan because he makes her feel glad that she is alive. She learned to live because of him. And i can never picture how damon would have ever made Elena get over losing her parents. But thats because its not shown.

And when damon meets Elena for the 1^st time she asks him what she wants and the love that consumes you part is his reply. That never meant that she wanted a love that consumes her.

As for Stefan not mentioning Katherine think about it. He was completely over Katherine. So when he slept with Elena he wasn't even thinking about her. It was by chance that Elena saw the photo. Also Stefan did not want Elena to freak out about the fact that she looks exactly like Katherine. In fact he gives a detailed explanation to Elena later when she confronts him.

As for Stefan saving Elena. At that time Elena stubbornly told Stefan to save matt. And the way she looked she did seem like she could last a bit longer. In fact i was surprised when she died just seconds after Stefan took matt. And Stefan did the 1^st thing that came to his mind. Stefan wanted to save Elena and matt too. So since Elena was still conscious he went to save matt. If he ha dwasted time to get an unwilling Elena out then there was no chance to save matt.

Now damon would have save directly Elena even though she would put up a fight. Because to him matt means nothing. He doesn't care which human lives or dies except for Elena. So he wouldn't mind wasting the time he can utilise to save matt in subduing Elena and saving her. If in the same situation was Stefan and Elena and damon was to save one of them, and if Stefan would have told him to save Elena he would sae her even though he loves Stefan more. He would come back for Stefan like Stefan came for Elena and never be able to forgive himself for letting Stefan die just like Stefan couldn't.

p.s.; i think you got the part of damon killing Elena before she gets sired to him wrong. It was Katherine who killed Elena. And since Stefan thinks that damon killed Elena he fights him but when Elena wakes up she tries to kill Stefan for she thinks he is a threat to damon(how ironic...)

okay then thats it and pls anwer my question in the begining as i did not understand what you were trying to say.

Okay this is my last post on it because if I dont get my point across at this point then there is no use trying.

^^ have u simply overlooked the fact that stefan has no control over his bloodlust? Its not he wants to kill people. Its simply that he has absolutely no control over his blood lust. He is like a person on drugs. He is addicted to blood or is a blood-o-holuc. Do u know what addiction is? It simply destorys a person. U must have heard so many stories of even the greatest people who have gotten ruined due to addiction! When he feeds stefan is like a totally different person. The ripper is not him! Every person has a weakness, this is stefans. Its not his fault that he cant master moderation. He has spent his life avoiding human blood because he knows he cant control himself. He doesnt want to hurt anyone. The remose he feels almost destroys him. Which is why he turns off his humanity. He doesnt enjoy killing humans. He cant help it. Anybody who has suffered from addiction will agree. Its like with smokers. They know that smoking is bad. That it will kill them. Its even written on the ciggerate packets that smoking kills. Then why do they smoke? Its because they cant help it. Addiction literally takes you over.
Stefan doesnt spout pretty words. Trust me. He actually feels remose for what he is done. Like u said human blood is extermly essential for a vampire to live. why do u think stefan stays away from human blood? Because he likes it? I dont think so. Drinking animal blood to them is like eating dirt to humans. It will sustian your life but will never nourish u and make u healthy and strong. Why do u think stefan puts himself and his health through hell? Because he enjoyes it? I dont think. Its because he doesnt want to hurt anyone. Its because he knows that he cant control himself. He is ready to put himself through hell to keep himself from killing people. He fights his vampire instint to drink human blood so that he doesnt cause any problems to anyone. And u call him a hypocrite? Wow!

Originally posted by: Missscarlett

^^ have u simply overlooked the fact that stefan has no control over his bloodlust? Its not he wants to kill people. Its simply that he has absolutely no control over his blood lust. He is like a person on drugs. He is addicted to blood or is a blood-o-holuc. Do u know what addiction is? It simply destorys a person. U must have heard so many stories of even the greatest people who have gotten ruined due to addiction! When he feeds stefan is like a totally different person. The ripper is not him! Every person has a weakness, this is stefans. Its not his fault that he cant master moderation. He has spent his life avoiding human blood because he knows he cant control himself. He doesnt want to hurt anyone. The remose he feels almost destroys him. Which is why he turns off his humanity. He doesnt enjoy killing humans. He cant help it. Anybody who has suffered from addiction will agree. Its like with smokers. They know that smoking is bad. That it will kill them. Its even written on the ciggerate packets that smoking kills. Then why do they smoke? Its because they cant help it. Addiction literally takes you over.
Stefan doesnt spout pretty words. Trust me. He actually feels remose for what he is done. Like u said human blood is extermly essential for a vampire to live. why do u think stefan stays away from human blood? Because he likes it? I dont think so. Drinking animal blood to them is like eating dirt to humans. It will sustian your life but will never nourish u and make u healthy and strong. Why do u think stefan puts himself and his health through hell? Because he enjoyes it? I dont think. Its because he doesnt want to hurt anyone. Its because he knows that he cant control himself. He is ready to put himself through hell to keep himself from killing people. He fights his vampire instint to drink human blood so that he doesnt cause any problems to anyone. And u call him a hypocrite? Wow!

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

That's what I see Stefan's bloodlust as: an addiction. In real life, there are rehab centers and specialists to treat addicts and help them get therapy. Unless some version of that appears in the show to help Stefan control and conquer his bloodlust, then he is all on his own. I think he's doing a pretty good job. He's trying for himself and he's trying for Elena. He wanted Elena to drink animal blood, but she can't keep it down. And I agree with Damon on that part that Elena needs human blood just as all the vampires do. Animal blood will not help them.

Lexi was his vamp rehab before damon killed her. In season 3 he pulled himself together without any help from anyone. Stefan isnt like damon. Damon knows how to keep his bloodlust in control. I really think that stefan has done an amzing jon controling himself given the level of his aadiction. Vampires do need human blood 2 survive. Thats d fact. Elena cant keep animal blood down. We can only imagine how stefan has been drinking the stuff for years. Calling him a hypocrite is plain stupid :)

Also, can someone explain to me why Stefan is considered boring? I think he's a great character. I love him just as I love Damon. I remember reading, I think it was the EW interview, that Paul said how some people found Stefan to be boring and thought Elena shouldn't be with him, but then after he became Ripper Stefan, people want Elena to be with him because they found him dangerous and appealing. Was Stefan not appealing as himself before 😕?

Lol its sad that we live in times where being a sweet, nice and gentllemanly person is considered as boring! Maybe ppl find ppl who rip innocent people's throats off for no reason interesting. I dont. Stefan was always a well rounded character for me. Unlike elena who is such a one dimentional character. Stefan has a very interesting back story and has his weaknesses as well as strenghts. Just because hes nice doesnt make him boring! I liked ripper stefan a lot but i love our normal sweet stefan even more :p

Originally posted by: Missscarlett

Lol its sad that we live in times where being a sweet, nice and gentllemanly person is considered as boring! Maybe ppl find ppl who rip innocent people's throats off for no reason interesting. I dont. Stefan was always a well rounded character for me. Unlike elena who is such a one dimentional character. Stefan has a very interesting back story and has his weaknesses as well as strenghts. Just because hes nice doesnt make him boring! I liked ripper stefan a lot but i love our normal sweet stefan even more :p

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

Elena does seem one dimensional now even though I loved her in the beginning. Stefan is a terrific character and I just love Paul0„2😳. My favorite characters are the ones that have a good back story. I like Damon despite everything, Stefan, Katharine, Elijah, Alaric, Rose, and Caroline. I don't really like Klaus after what he did to Tyler's pack, I just dislike him more even though a few episodes before I started liking him a little bit.0„2

The end of Thursday's episode just broke my heart for Stefan. He wanted to know how together Damon and Elena were and Caroline's silence and her face told him everything.0„2

Awee poor stefan... I havent seen season 4 yet... It must have broken his heart yaar... I started disliking elena when damon turned bonnie's mum into a vampire to save her life. M still trying to figure out whatz so special about her. Okay... Shes pretty but whatelse? Shes not even that interesting yaar... Is she really special enough that they destoryed a women's life just to keep her alive? I think stefan and damon both can do a lot better. Even i hated klaus in the begaining. I dont like him much now but i guess he is okay. But joseph morgan is a very talented actor and its hard not to like him lol . But i can never forgive him for what he did to stefan juss because he didnt wanna b alone :(

I hate Klaus but I like Joseph.

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

I hate Klaus but I like Joseph.0„2

About Bonnie, I remember reading comments on other sites how most people hated Bonnie. In the first season, she wanted to protect her town from vampires but she was seen as wrong because she was against Stefan, Elena, and Damon. She eventually started getting used to them and Stefan has proved what a good friend he is to Bonnie and Caroline both. But the thing is, Bonnie almost always gets the raw end of the deal. She has lost a lot and even though she's a witch who has to keep the balance of nature intact, she keeps having to break that balance to protect Elena. Because when it all comes down to it, Bonnie lost a lot and all for Elena. Her Mom got turned into a vampire by Damon and that was considered Damon's act of love for Elena. But what about his utter disregard for Elena's friend or her mother? Damon is a little selfish in his love for Elena. All he wants and cares for is Elena and nobody else seems to matter. Not her friends, not her brother, no one.0„2

I really really feel sorry for bonnie... You are absolutely correct. She has indeed lost everything to protect elena... Her mum gt turned into a vampire for elena yet she still cares about her. She really is a selfless person while elena can be really selfish.
You know the most important reason why i dont ship delena is that only. Its like damon only sees elena. It doesnt matter how many relations he has to break if he gets to keep elena. He doesnt give a crap about her brother, her friends. He was so ready to kill klaus in season 3 , even though that meant that tyler was surely gonna die. He mentally and physically tormented caroline in the first season, he killed jeremy in d 2nd season only because elena said that she doesnt love him. He even killed alaric when he told him to stop seducing elena in season 3 ( and he was his best friend right? ) . That is nt love! Its freaking madness. Loving doesnt mean trapping them and forgeting everything else.
I love how stefan cares about bonnie, caroline ( i love his friendship with caroline) , jeremy. Damon toh doesnt even care about her personal wishes. He feed her vampire blood in season 2. Even though he knew that elena doesnt want 2 be a vampire. Its like he is on a mission to i dont steal the people that stefan loves. His father, katherine all loved stefan more than him. So thats why i think he wants elena to love him no matter at what cost. Be it the cost of her own wishes or the life of her loved ones. But that really isnt how love works!
Are u seriously telling me that delena fans think that damon turning bonnie's mum into a vampire was a proof of his love? Thats freaking Nonsense!