Devil's advocate. - Page 2

Originally posted by: Fari_15

Copy/Pasting my reply to a thread:

I agree with everything you said. Whilst watching the episode, I was wondering the same thing. Swara keeps on going about how Sanskaar tried to murder her, etc, which is honestly very annoying because how can she ignore everything that he's been doing for her or what her family keeps telling her about their relationship?
She has a memory loss, and she remembers Sanskaar shooting the gun, however, shouldn't she be a bit affected by his actions. For example, despite of Sanskaar saying I love to her the night before, she starts calling him ghatiya insaan, etc the very next morning. I am not saying she should start loving him immediately but can't they show her conflicting emotions regarding him. Can't she question everything, like a man who claims to love her, why would he try to kill her.
Also, she knows she has memory loss, but she's so least bothered towards it. Won't a person be inquisitive about his/her life and things they don't remember? She isn't concerned about how her parents got married, how she and Ragini ended up in the same house, heck even the time span that she doesn't remember. I would expect a person suffering from amnesia trying to connect the dots and trying to recollect the past memories but here Swara is shown to not give two shits about anything. It's like she's happy to start her life all over again and the past year or two don't matter to her.
The dialogues being given to Swara are too extreme and not needed, for example, she said that she feels suffocated whenever the family members try to remind her of her and Sanskaar's happy married life, and marrying a person like Sanskaar was her biggest mistake. How can she make such bold statements without once wondering why she married him at the first place, why does everyone keep on saying they were happy together.

I really hope the cvs show Swara's emotional conflict when Sankaar leaves the house, her wondering and questioning everything, or at least her agitation on not being able to recall a number of years of her life and something as significant as her marriage. Also, once the memory is back, Swara should been shown remembering everything she said to Sanskaar and hating herself for it :P

Kissan's entry is a refreshing after the khooni drama and the unwanted Sahil and Swara scenes, however, I don't understand the point behind Sanskaar's disguise. He said in the promos that Kissan will get her memory back but he hasn't done anything significant as yet. Maybe it's just been a day or two to his entry, and that's why he's taking things slow.
I really liked how Kissan offered Swara chocolates to celebrate the occasion, but would have liked it more if he had repeated that one should always be prepared to celebrate a happy occasion (what Swara said to him in the initial scenes) and if Swara had reacted to it, like getting some flashes, etc.

Forum members might justify Swara and Kissan's behaviour saying it has only been a week since she came to know of her marriage according to the timeline of the show, but has the time really mattered? Ragini's redemption happened in merely a week, her wound got healed in a day, Sahil literally fell in love with Swara in just under three days.

All we can do is hope that cvs focus a bit more on SwaSan's cosmic connection and Swara regaining her memory.

Originally posted by: rammushree

Very well said. 👏

The CVs have lost their brains. I agree this is a daily soap but it can't be so illogical. Swara knows that she is married and people around her are telling her that she has a loving husband as Sanskar. She herself saw photographs. Instead of pondering over her married life, she is shown bindass moving around with her newly created friends. Is this logical? Wouldn't I even have a small pinch of some responsibility towards my marriage? What crap are these CVs showing. They are bent on ruining a strong character as Swara. I feel in the process even Sanskar's character is diluted. I still am not getting the purpose of Nissan though I am loving this character.

Originally posted by: The.Lannister

Res

Unreserved:

Kisan:

What is that man even doing? 😳 First & foremost I had hated the idea of disguise. But then seeing excessive of Sahil - Swara & family drama I decided to give it a chance. And I regret it so much🤢 I never thought Kisan will be just for comic relief. Dancing to weird songs, crass toilet humour, cheap antics. All these things could have been wrapped in one single episode. Did we need to spend four days on it? I dont find Kisan - Swara magical. I dont even like them together that much because like everything else it is taking away SwaSan screenspace. I was promised SwaSan & Kisan - Swara is not SwaSan, will never be SwaSan. I had expected Kisan will remind Swara of things. When on the first day itself he saw their marriage photo I was delighted! I thought that now he can ask her about it & the true track can begin. But seems not. And going by the OLVs & segments seems Kisan is just going to be stupid & lame🤢 Please just end this character & bring back the old Sanskaar Maheshwari. I dont know why they cannot bring him back. After all they did write him right? Or did they plagiarize someone's script😆

Sanskaar:

Sanskaar lost Swara & then he got her back just to lose her all over again. He wouldnt just be sad. He would be angry. Angry at anyone & anything that stood between him & Swara & atm only two things stand between them. Sahil & Swara herself. And what is Sanskaar doing about either? Nothing?😲 After getting over the initial hurt of her accusations he wont seek her out & try to talk to her? He will be OK with her not even thinking about their marriage while she roams the city with random guys like Sahil & Kisan? Where is the anger? Where is the possessiveness any husband will feel?

And one more thing. Sanskaar loves Swara but what about Sujata. So you let your mother (and family) suffer for your wife's whims & fancies? Your wife is ill...she needs a doctor! How about you take her to one? Does he have no responsibility towards his mother? For a woman who has been excessively rude with you, you leave a loving mother behind? Maybe such behaviour suits a college boy but it does not suit a man! I felt really bad for Sujju that day & then again yesterday. She has gone through this once, now again both time because of Sanskaar's love for a woman🤢👏

Swara:

I said enough on Sakshi's post. Just one more thing to add. I hated Sanskaar not talking to Swara during the maalkin track. Now, I would give a great deal for Swara to just shut up! Please put brains into gear before opening you mouth Swara🤢 Fisherwoman...good term Nimmi😆 I am finding her absolutely classless.

Sahil:

I dont even understand why he is getting so much prominence🥱 Just yesterday ONLY he could understand that Kisan is not singing when even Suro ki Devi herself could not? 😆 Why is that man so important? Its not as if they have hired Amitabh Bachchan for the role that he MUST be given most prominence. To actually compromise the leads in order to make a villain/ third angle smart is plot suicide which is happening here but even then it seems many dont think so😕

I do understand that if they sorted out everything immediately the track would end in a week but if you have to stretch, stretch SwaSan scenes! This track was advertised as being SwaSan centric, Swara falling in love with Sanskaar blah blah. Where are SwaSan here? I detest all those typical trip n fall sequence but I will watch that if swara is falling in Sanskar's arms. Yaha she falls in every other man's arms except Sanskaar. I roll eyes during cosmic connection scenes but I would sooner see those than Kisan spouting dirty toilet humour & being downmarket in general. Curtains, dupatta defying all laws of physics are utterly 😆 but that over Swara yelling like a demented banshee every other day, any day. Let Swara not remember but at least let her feel. Let her not accept Sanskaar but let her at least think about Sanskaar. When Kisan gave her those chocolates why couldn't she have some flashback? The "its been only a few days" doesnt cut it. Flashbacks dont follow timelines. They come & go as they please.

I had thought RNBDJ was a shitty movie. But honestly watching this track has made me like the movie. At least there was no Sahil in it. At least we know Tani never loved Suri. Yes I will watch that buddha SRK romancing a young girl over the shit we are being shown anyday.

I am back to LU I guess 😆 VK is doing great as Kisan but for me Sanskaar is more important than VK & if I want to watch VK play a gawaar dehati I will prefer to do it in some other show. Here I want him as Sanskaar only!

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">woah Lanny..
that was intense🤗.

and brutal.. and unfortunately.. Bang on!

when I saw Kissan's first look I was like... WHYYY????
but Sahil convinced me otherwise.😆.
I like Kissan. his antics and all. but I was counting on him to jolt Swara's memory. not to be the comic relief in the serial. his mom is doing spectacular job in that regard. let her. He is here for a purpose right? what is that purpose?
I don't mind Kissan.. but I want Sanskaar around too. and more of Sanskaar. and Sanskaar WITH Swara.
and I share your doubts regarding that plagiarism part. this is RS after all. Simar.. makki; GOF; remember.

Good old Sanskaar Maheshwari... where is he?
now I days I think we probably imagined him.

WORD WORD & WORD about Sanskaar.
Angry? he would be FURIOUS! I always associated him with Rudra (Shiv ji). the intensity. the attitude. the calmness and then rage.

now what happened to him. A guy drags his Swara away from him and he give puppy looks around. no clenching of jaw or fists, eyes flashing fire, no rage.. nothing.

where is that I will win you back Swara whether you want it or not attitude? yeah he is promising himself and all that.. but Man! I so miss the original Sanskaar intensity.

I loved Sanskaar's bond with Sujata.. that was so refreshingly real and normal. but you surely got brutally valid point here.

don't remind me of Maalkin track. Sanskaar was so unlike Sanskaar there. but yes.. time for Swara to really tone it down.
haha.. thanks girl. Fisherwoman is a gender neutral term for me. Fishwife more precisely.
there is this serial whose hero was hot. I thought of checking it out and found the lead girl screaming her lungs out at him. and I was like.. why is he bothering with this fishwife. bail out dude.

and then when I have the misfortune of seeing Raman kumar screaming in YHM i go 'someone shut him up please'.

would HATE to think like that about my favourite characters.

+1 for your words for Sahil.

and big squishy hugs for the bolder part.
there .. you said it!
*whistle and claps*

RNBDJ was dumb dumb movie. Suri ji deserved MUCH better. so did Raj.
gimme HDDCS anyday.

but trust our Cvs to make a mess of ready made plot provided by that movie. dumb turned into more dumber.

I dig characters. Not actors.
so Sanskaar over VK for me.. Anyday.
Sanskaar Maheshwari.. the good old Dark knight. I want him back.
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