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Posted: 9 years ago
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Finally i read it all!
Viji, it was awesome
Loved Ram Prasad's role! Much better than he gets to play in the show
In a way, he played cupid between them, That was awesome
SwaSan were obviously fabulous. How much angry Sanskaar is with her, he can't resist the connection that so very evidently prevails between the two of them.
I had been expecting a similar confrontation of her feelings to Sanskaar by Swara, where she tells him everything her heart has experienced and how she realised her love too late.
The concluding para was fabulous. We should never give up hope. Finally Sanskaar melts and we get to see a beautiful scene between SwaSan. It was so well described that I could picture it all in my mind! Really lovely👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Awsm OS Viji...
loved it vry much...
u very well described Ram's character... Really nyc to read that...
U r a brilliant writter Viji... Love u so much for these awsm stories of SwaSan...
Lots of Love... ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Viji🤗
Brilliantly written. Very Well said dear..
Ramprasad poor man not even got a right space even though as sanskar's father atleast he got full rights over here. Loved his pov throughout. even though i too think wer the raginis revealation cd disappeared! u pointed out everythin🤗 . Last swasan moment and those silent promises by swara❤️.
Awesome!
Loved everything dear..Nice work! 🤗
And Wish U a Merry Xmas ! And A a Fab Year Ahead. 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakura24

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hey Viji...

I am ecstatic about three things,
Firstly the mere fact that you wrote something like this is so good. Secondly you dedicated it to me! God, when your favorite write dedicates one of their most amazing works to you that feeling is out of the world, thirdly I am the first to comment!😃 Wow, just had a very late night and here is the pay off for all my hard work!...Viji this truly is a gem!

Coming to the writing, you know my love for Mahabarat analogies, I was just stunned at the way you drew a connection between Yudhishtira, staking his all, to Durga Prasad losing the wealth to Ragini, the concept here is perfect.

In fact when I watched those episodes the same thought struck me, as to how the family remained mute viewers not much unlike the royal court of Kavravas when this great injustice took place. Of how blind Durga Prasad has become in his deep love for his family that he just handed the entire fate of his clan to a evil hand, just like that! I can seriously see A yudhishtir bond by his word in him, more than the wise old Bhisma I used to envision.

Then our common interest, the brother of the king and the father of the king but never the king himself or the kingmaker, Ram. The subtle way you put forward his view is mind blowing, simply amazing. I really admire your way of exploring a character right from where their foundations were laid. It is such a vast approach in knowing a persons set of thoughts.

You build up the perfect image of a Laxman only named Ram, here. A younger brother who looks up to his eldest, with a god-like, devotion and the clash between that brother and the father who holds his son in very admiring eyes was pitch perfect here!

The way swara moved through out the piece, her bond with Ram, then her bond...or rather strained bond with Sanskar was aptly put. I really liked Ram's one thought here, that she always puts his son first where he and his wife had failed miserably. It was a nice punch amides all the witty arrows you managed to shoot. Ram holding his DIL in a position of respect is so Ram-ish, he knows to respect more than love.

Ragini here is more reptilian than she was in any of your fics before. I guess this is where our second interest comes😉 I adore that slithery, hissing and spitting image of hers, the perfect, sly villain she is! But what I adore the most is the way she knows how to pick up her battles wisely, the way she stepped back when she realized she is reaching a dead end by that path. It is a quality I admire in villains, their presence of mind.

Lakshya...oh, your hatred for him mirrored once more here. Neither you nor I can ever tolerate him a complete changed mature man can we? In our writing he always appear to be a toddler in a body of a giant, always trying to get his favorite toy one way or the other.

I kept the sweetest to taste in the end. Ah, Sanskar! Your Sanskar is always a man of many shades, in fact he is a total spectrum! The pain, the fear of getting his heart broken again blinding him against Swara's continuous declarations of love was perfectly portrayed here. My heart wrenched at some places for both of them, but mostly I felt a bitter sweet pain while reading Sanskar's thoughts.

Then the battle. You know how much I adore verbal, intellectual battles than of those with physical damages involved. So you picked up the partnership firm? Your logic here is pure gold my dear, I've never felt so thrilled in my entire life that I was almost smirking as I read it. What captured me here was one single word spoken in the almighty voice of Sanskar Ram Prasad Maheshwari, 'Enough!' truly this man does radiate power that one can hardly breath in his presence!
The subtle ending to the MU was so heart warming, Swara's clear indication of filling her maang in front of him was just the right touch there. I really adore that last smile shared through the mirror, so softly romantic.

All in all, this has made its place in my heart, I can't love you anymore than I already do for writing this...but I wish I could!

Stay blessed, keep writing!😊



Saku dear...🤗 🤗

Love you loads for this comment---actually I love ya anyway. 😊

I truly wanted to dedicate this piece to you, because it encompassed so many of our shared interests. Ram Prasad's character, the Mahabharata references, the ecological references (you identified the serpentine references for Ragini spot on, and I've also put in a Serengeti reference regarding Lakshya 😆).

The day that episode aired, I started thinking of the similarities to this heartrending scene in the Kaurava court. As you said, there is a parallel between how Durga Prasad just goes ahead to blindly hand over his family's destiny and security to someone so conniving and Machiavellian; and how no one stops the wagers from being made by Yudhishthira.

As you know, I was deciding between treating Maheshwari Karma & Sons as a partnership firm (which I finally zeroed in upon), or a private company (where also, the directors have the right to refuse to register transfer of shares ). So either way, Ragini's hopes of becoming the malkin of the firm were a pipe dream, Sanskaar would have blown them to smithereens! 😊

I really feel Ram must have a certain groundswell of quiet strength to his nature. When push comes to shove, I'm sure the Father in him will awaken, and come to the defense of his son. And maybe that is the reason he is so fond of Swara, because he realizes she will put his son first, something he tragically failed to do earlier.

Sanskaar's and Swara's pain--yeah, I was feeling all bittersweet and saudade-ish 😉 when I wrote those bits. I wanted to put in a fairly liberal dose of angst, but I can't take the extent of MU and pain they are showing on the serial, my heart's too fragile to take that! 😕 So that's where I put in those beginning signs of a reconciliation and a rapprochement. After all, Sanskaar adores Swara, she just needs to set his mind at rest that she is as devoted to him as he is to her; willing to put him first, just as he does for her.

And bingo about Lakshya. Like you, I love to hate him. I frankly don't think the character has the intellectual and emotional depth to turn over a new leaf right away. In the future, perhaps! 😉

I am so very, very happy to hear you loved it so much, Saku. Your opinion matters a great deal to me, both as a buddy and as a writer whose work I love. 🤗 🤗



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Meself

Hello Viji! I hope I am not wrong here! Well Mahabharat has always been my favourite epic as far as I can remember and I am a huge admirer of that brilliant, blazing and feisty queen Draupadi. No woman defines feminism as she does. Probably the reason why I ran to this OS was the title itself. The Dutya Sabha were the Kauravas tried to humiliate the fire-born and ultimately brought havoc to themselves!


I have to make a confession that I absolutely hate and detest the storyline but the characters have been woven intricately to lend a saving grace to otherwise a really old bottle of wine. I just finished reading the OS and I couldn't help but draw comparisons from that great, great epic. Ram Prasad reminds me of Vidur. He was an intelligent man, a wise one, someone who could have prevented the war and of course the shameful and heinous act of Vastraharan had he intervened at time and had others listened to him. This one man seems to be knowingly it all, trying to prevent it all and then failing in the cut-out roles of a brother and a father. His guilt at not having saved his son a heartache some five years ago, his pain at seeing him go through a similar pain now and his helplessness at the turn of events that humiliate his daughter-in-law...all scream how horribly he is breaking every now and then. I am afraid he will be reduced to being another Vidur...lamenting at the massive loss that his family will soon go through.



Sanskar is the reminiscence of Mahanayak Arjun. And no, don't take it as a praise of sorts...it is not easy to carry that title of being the best. You gave to cleave yourself continuously to keep that image, that fortress intact. Arjun had sacrificed so much, maybe more that what he could afford, to gain the title of being the Mahanayak in the saga that was drenched in blood. He forced to share the woman he loved, lost his child, committed a sin unknowingly and braved curses from divine and yet stood firm. Sanskar is so much like the man we talk in absentia. He has been slapped with heart wrenching tragedy, he has seen the woman he loved go beyond his reach, he has lost his hope and yet stands firm on the solid ground. Poor thing doesn't even have the luxury of breaking down because how can Arjun breakdown? He has to hold his Gaandeeva and draw blood even if that slits his own throat. There is no backing out now.



Apart from these two there is Swara who is an interesting mixture of varied odds. No I won't compare her to my Draupadi for she isn't. Not everyone can be that fiercely right and not everyone can be called Krishnaa the beloved of the God himself, but yes she is Chitrangada. Fierce, bold and yet insecure about what her future holds and if it holds anything substantial at all! Her self-flagellation and inability to love herself for who she is seems to be the one constant that is putting up a refusal for change. I have a distant cousin who Swara reminds me of, every time that I see her. A broken family and unquenchable thirst for love eventually does that to you. You run behind a mirage hoping against hope that it would transform itself into reality only to realise that it was your stupidity and that in doing so you destroyed perhaps that one thing that was so very dear to you.



I really appreciate your writing that constantly drew parallels between something that I adore with all my heart and the characters that I have come to like with an intensity that I myself didn't knew was possible. Rest of the characters I won't talk about for they literally make me go "dafaq"!!! Especially Ragini! This was a brilliantly written grey character that Tejaswi destroyed for me! I am kind of glad that she is moving away from the project, playing a grey character is certainly not her cup of tea. She should have taken a cue from Rashmi Desai who played Tapasya in Uttran. Now thats how you pull a grey character off! I want a better performer to fill Ragini's shoe!



Anyways this was a pretty piece! I see the sequel is Karna-centric...well not a character that I am fond of but would nevertheless give it a try if that is spun in your beautiful words.


~XOXO

-S




Hey...Thanks a lot for your very detailed and analytical comment, was lovely to read your thoughts about the epic. The Mahabharata is an absolute favorite of mine, too. I grew up reading Rajaji's "Mahabharata Retold" and then in more recent times, have read works on the Mahabharata by other wonderful authors like Dr Devdutt Pattanaiks "Jaya", and Shri Bhyrappa's "Parva".

You're right, I'm Viji. Very nice to "meet" you, please do let me know your name as well.

I really liked your interpretation of Ram Prasad as a Vidur type of figure. I do agree with you a lot here. Like you said, Ram is a lot like Vidur in terms of having the perspective and the wisdom to see things in the right way. But perhaps not having the forcefulness or the authority to ensure the right course was in fact, followed. But I do have high hopes for Ram. 😊 That he would, ultimately, break out of his self imposed shackles, and take a stand for his son and daughter in law.

I am also in agreement with your lovely analysis of Sanskaar as Arjuna--except with the small difference, that Arjuna is sometimes portrayed as someone who was insecure about his pre eminence. There is a tale where Arjuna resents Eklavya, and later Karna, because their skill at archery could rival his own. Drona of course, takes recourse to that extreme action against Eklavya, to keep his promise to his pupil that he would be made the foremost archer of the land.

Apart from the above trait, I would think Sanskaar pretty much fits into the Arjuna mold. I do see some stray traits of Karna in him as well---in terms of the way Karna knew he was destined for Greatness, had the capabilities to be so, but the fact that Kunti forsook him as a baby, and never accepted him as a son till right at the very end, condemned him a bit in the eyes of some. Sanskaar, though not exactly in a parallel position, has the unfortunate experience of being the most capable of the Maheshwari brothers, by far. But it is Lucky who has always been the favored son (especially by Annapurna). In the household where Annapurna used to call all the shots, even Sanskaar's own parents don't seem to have out his interests first.

And last but certainly not the least, he has certain characteristics displayed by Shri Krishna as well. In terms of keeping his eye on the ultimate, worthy goal. Sometimes he follows the means/ paths to the goal which might not be considered too straightforward in themselves (one reason for the occasional conflict between him and Swara), but he sees the larger picture, and as he says, an untruth spoken to achieve a laudable, worthy goal, may not really be wrong.

I just loved your interpretation of Swara as tallying with Chitrangada. Lovely! Very well analyzed, indeed. I completely agree, and I would probably say that there are some slight tones of Subhadraa as well, in the sense of the boldness with which Subhadraa held the reins of the chariot while eloping with Arjuna, proclaiming to all, loud and clear, that it was her choice, she was in love with this man.

Once again, thanks for your lovely words, I saw your comment late in the night yesterday, and wanted to wait till I got to my laptop today before commenting. An analytical comment like yours warranted a detailed reply. 😊

Cheers

Viji



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: foresight

you have a knack for blending mahabharta into this beautifully. dp and ap do remind me of dhrutrashtra and gandhari - blind in their love for their son (DP gave property away from ragini for AP, laksh and cover himself; but never realised the same pain when ram and sujata must have gone through it on sanskar's exile). ragini and dadi joining them to complete kauravas. ram and his family as pandas. uttara is sadly karna stuck with laksh sometimes in wrong doing. swara as arjun unclear many times though courageous, and cannot fight ragini many a times despite her wrong doings because she is family, or where she fights her always forgives her quickly as well. she doesnt alway have clarity when it comes to gadodia family or most of MM was. sanskar as krishna. i feel he is more suited for that though he has played his share of arjun as well. but as it stands today i feel he is the one who see it all and lets somethings play as destiny foretells. he sometimes hides the sun to kill the enemy only to later reveal the day hadn't ended - in short some not so right things for the greater good - burning shawl. he isn't as conflicted about fighting kaurava components as arjun was, he knows you sometimes must do it.


anyway mahabharat aside, loved how you got swara to realise the real issue and put it to sanskar in the right words. in the serial, swara loses track/focus and her words to sanskar often cause problems than solutions. you put them together with words that describe what they truly feel and want...in the right way

and brilliant portrayal of ram. he is the forgotten hero who could actually be used better in the serial. you have done a brilliant job in delivering him to us.

finally your quotes of love, absolutely fantastic and so true for the current situation


weil written OS as only a wonderful writer can deliver 👏



Hey Sapna...Thanks a ton for that very lovely comment, my dear. 🤗 🤗

I loved your take on the different characters. I certainly agree with you on seeing Durga Prasad and Annapurna as Dritarashtra and Gandhari. I had always earlier felt Durga Prasad was a Bhishma, but his recent conduct has made me change my mind. 😕

Sanskaar I think is a mix of good traits from several characters. 😊 Like you said, he has shades of Arjuna---his dedication and focus, but without his doubts which surface at inconvenient times, and without his insecurity. He certainly has Shri Krishna's approach of keeping his eyes fixed on the goal. The means which he follows to achieve the worthwhile end may not always be pristine in themselves, but he takes them because they achieve the greater good. I feel he also has aspects of Karna--in the sense of being supremely gifted, the one with the most natural talent, but who is treated unfairly by his family. Just as Kunti abandoned Karna, we see that Sanskaar's interests are not really put first by anybody. Durga Prasad loves him a lot, but ultimately, he too, defers to Annapurna in her open partiality for Lakshya. And Ram and Sujata haven't really done too much for their own son, they have just gone along with the flow decided by their Bhaisa and Jiji!

Thanks for saying you liked the portrayal of how Sanskaar and Swara move gradually to resolve their differences. I frankly wanted to see them working together to counter Ragini in the show. I was ok with some angst and pining between them, but the serial seems to have taken the MU to an altogether unnecessary level. Hope it gets resolved soon. 😊

And like I was saying in reply to a comment above, I do so want to see Ram taking a stand for his son. He gets to do next to nothing on the show, but when push comes to shove, the paternal instinct has to triumph over the sibling instinct finally. He needs to take a stand in favor of his son, its high time.

Thanks a lot again, Sapna for this comment. Am really very glad to hear what you felt about this OS. 🤗



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bwvianna

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Hey Viji,

Another beautifully written one shot.! Absolutely fabulous concept. Really loved the way you portrayed Ram Prasad. Very well done there. The way you have shown the bond between Ram Prasad and Durga Prasad is fantastic. Your start where you mentioned that although his name is Ram he is more like Laxman was so apt and beautifully worded. Hats off.! His thoughts on how he had failed Sanskaar once and did not want to do that again even if it meant going against his 'Bhaisa'. 👏 Absolutely splendid.! :)

Part 2 was the Swara centric portion. You have always been able to portray her feelings so well yaar, it has always made me feel good after watching the dreadful episodes they are showing. :) Thank you f or that. I loved this one line that you have written - And she wasn't Swara Sanskaar Maheshwari for nothing, she would find a way to do it. Absolutely loved this one sentence. It really shows how well she can read Sanskaar and with that hope she is not going to give up. :)

Part 3 was probably the best part. This one part touched me to the core: Ram Prasad was overjoyed that finally there was someone who was putting his son first something that he or his wife was unable to do. Gosh, Viji I loved this part so very much. This statement just reflected the sad and happy part of Sanskaar's life where no one had stood up for him and now finally someone was. It was too good! :) And let's not forget the awesome 'I have decided to learn something from my husband'! Bulls eye! Nothing could have surprised Sanskaar more than that.
And finally the counter attack to Ragini's blackmailing and that stupidity happening on the show. Very well shown, with the loophole and everything. Thanks for giving these people some brains to realise they have a full confession CD which is a big big evidence against Ragini. God only knows why the creatives have conveniently forgotten this crucial aspect.

Part 4: Thank you so much for the beautiful end. Seriously, thank you for not making it a happily ever after so fast. That last paragraph did complete justice to the whole one shot. Truly it did. Fantastic end.!

Awaiting the possible sequel with anticipation.!
I'm travelling so had a lot of time writing down this comment. Just realised how long it is. Anyways, Happy Christmas and have a Swasanlicious New Year! :)

-V



Vrinda my dear...🤗 🤗

Please don't feel bad about the long comment. I love all comments from pals--long, short, detailed, brief, all of them feel wonderful. 😊

To tell you the truth, I just loved your detailed take, and I was really touched that you had described a bit about each part that you liked. Thanks a ton for that.

Am so glad you liked the portrayal of Ram. I wanted to show some layers to his character, we hardly get to see anything of him on the show, and yet, the paternal instinct is a powerful impulse, isn't it? I would like to think, that when push comes to shove, Ram will finally decide that its high time he supported his son's interests.

I do think one reason why he is fond of Swara (we are shown that when Sanskaar says he wants the divorce, Ram gets very upset), is because he genuinely feels Swara will be good for his son, will place his interests first. As a father, I guess he feels terrible pangs of guilt for having failed Sanskaar five years ago. He would never want to repeat that mistake again.

As for the battle against Ragini, seriously, I also have no clue how and why the CVs have just forgotten about that CD where Ragini confesses to attempting to kill Swara, and before that, drugging her over a period of weeks. For God's sake, she was caught on the CD trying to stab Swara (though the knife was fake, her intent to kill was obvious). This would all be terrific mitigating factors for Lakshya's actions, but no one seems to think of it. 🤢

And there are a dozen corporate loopholes by which she can be prevented from taking control of the firm. They've forgotten those as well. 😃

Big 🤗 🤗 for your comment about the concluding part. Yeah, I did feel the rapprochement and reconciliation between Swara and Sanskaar would take some time, that trust would take a bit of time to be rebuilt. I wanted to show it as a steady, gradual process, but with very real hope now on both sides.

Thanks again dear, you mentioned you are traveling somewhere---so safe travels, and catch you on the forum later! Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours! 😊




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Mahabharat! You have no idea how much I love it! I myself have written a few OS & one SS on MBH😳

OK...back to SwaSan😆


RP as Vikarna...if only!


I was watching Animal Planet the other day. Hyenas are supposed to be super intelligent animals Viji. Lakshji hence is no hyena😆 Or maybe he is just Lion King cartoonwala hyena😆 But even they werent that bad😛 Does Lakshji not realize how cheap he is being. She is giving a second chance to Sanskaar because she loves him. Asking a woman who loves someone else to give a chance to you too...is there even a word for such a low life?


Swara you might need more than a few minutes to convince Sanskaar this time😡 Over confident fool😡 Though thinking like Sanskaar is any day a good move 👍🏼...



...Once again she goes mixing mission & love again!



Now that DP has disappointed everyone it would be so good if RP does something...this time for his son like DP did all for his son first & then wife. Finally the guy will get something to do. He is a good actor, I have seen him in other shows.

SK avtaar??😕 What is that? I am surprised Ragini didnt say that Swara would never allow Sanskaar to put her in jail.


If only we could get a scene where Swara too is asking him not to insult her love if he cannot reciprocate it...same to same scene like Sanskaar's was...him pinned against the wall & stuff😆


Instead of going full swing into love mode maybe Swara should try to become his friend once more. They were never a couple in the traditional sense of the word but even being friends they both fell in love with each other so maybe that is where she should start. he has broken off the friendship...start from there & then build slowly on it The amount of time I spend thinking on SwaSan reunion if I spent thinking on my own non existent love life...ab tak muze bf milke meri shaadi bhi ho jaati






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Originally posted by: maaneetfan

Viji viji viji...how do u do it??? U r truly a mine of flowing thoughts and beautiful words tht weave such pictures in one's mind!!!!

Its just so wonderfully written ...i sply love ur characterisation of Ram prasad...he is still such an enigma in the show...m glad u tried to explore his personality here.

Oh the descriptions of both sanskaar n swara's feelings. ..literally i could feel them myself!!!! Each one's pain and then hope flaring at the slightest possibility. ..such deep love fr each other...sigh...

A very intelligent loophole discovered and acted on!!! Hmmph Ragini makes me hate her so much I wish they could do something to oust her completely! !!!

Such a sweet ending. .eyes saying it all fr the 2 soulmates...can't wait for u to b bck frm ur holidays and write the possible sequel.

Enjoy! !!!
Love Tasneem



Hey Tasneem...Thanks a ton for your very sweet comment. 🤗🤗
This just made my day when I read it early in the morning. 😊

So glad that you loved the portrayal of Swara and Sanskaar's emotions. Both of them are in tremendous pain, they are pining for each other, and will be happy only when they resolve their misunderstandings and come back together. Swara just needs to reassure Sanskaar about the depth of her feelings for him, needs to assure him that she will place his interests first, the way he does for her. I wanted to show that gradual process of recovering that trust between them, and very happy that you liked it.

About Ram, I do feel he will take a stand in support of his son and daughter in law. We hardly see him doing anything important in the show, but surely, the paternal instinct is stronger than the sibling instinct, na? When push comes to shove, I would like to believe that Ram will be willing to even oppose his Bhaisa and Bhabhi sa, to ensure Sanskaar gets his due happiness.

And about the loopholes---there are so many, yaar. There are so many business laws which they can use to prevent Ragini from taking control of the firm; they can use her confession CD to ensure she doesn't blackmail them about putting Lakshya in jail...if only the CVs would remember that CD! 😆

Will surely do my best to write the sequel OS. Probably Jan 1st week, shall PM you as usual when I post.

Thanks again dear, and wish you Happy Holidays!

Cheers

Viji

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Originally posted by: ShadikaIshVeer

Hey😊

This was really a beautiful OS , i am mostly a silent reader on this forum 😳 read most of your work and loved them all😳 You are a extreamely talented writer and I loved this os😳😳 Loved how Sanskar told them about the cd of ragini 's confession 👏👏 i wished we could see something like that in the show 😉
And the last part was just too good yaar⭐️⭐️ Loved it , everything might not be perfect but there is a understanding and slowly everything will getter between swasan 😳😳 And Swara looking at Sanskar while filling her mang was so beautifully written
Once again a beautiful os , loved reading it 😃😃 A small request , could you kindly pm whenever you write a FF /os ?



Hey...Shadika, is it? Thanks a ton for your comment on this OS, as well as your lovely words about my previous works. 😊

Regarding this OS, am very glad you liked the gradual rapprochement and reconciliation between Swara and Sanskaar. It will take time for that trust between them to be fully restored, but the understanding and hope is slowly growing.

I really wanted to envision SwaSan countering Ragini together. And beats me how in the serial, they have conveniently forgotten that CD of Ragini's. 😆 They can use it so easily to prevent her nakhras! Also, there are so many business and corporate laws that will make it very difficult for Ragini to take over ownership of their firm.

I've sent you a buddy request, so I will be able to PM you for my future works.

Cheers

Viji



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