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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: kubare


Thanks for answering dear...

Yes it all depends on the CV's on how they want to carry this story forward...will they move and get back Laksh Swara together again making her forget what a Loser he is as a lover...or will they make her chose Sanskar ...the guy who did so much to pay for all his crimes against her...

Only time will tell...thus interesting days ahead indeed as long as this show does not become an other Uttaran...



So far, Sanskaar has had multiple layers of characters exposed; he has forgiven and asked for forgiveness for all his 'crimes'...have not seen such characterization in any other series (I admit, I don't watch many series but those that I have seen...). So, that guy, does deserve some amount of trust...

On the story ahead...CVs are the GODs of the series, they create but those who make or break the series would be the fans...unfortunately, online fans are not counted as TRP is based on actual viewership of the idiot box...So, TRP rules the roster...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JazzyM


So far, Sanskaar has had multiple layers of characters exposed; he has forgiven and asked for forgiveness for all his 'crimes'...have not seen such characterization in any other series (I admit, I don't watch many series but those that I have seen...). So, that guy, does deserve some amount of trust...

On the story ahead...CVs are the GODs of the series, they create but those who make or break the series would be the fans...unfortunately, online fans are not counted as TRP is based on actual viewership of the idiot box...So, TRP rules the roster...


Yes he is a character with mutiple layers...and the CV's have beautiful shown us that...loved how he was Honest enough to take the blame for all of his wrong doings in front of everyone...loved that...his honesty about his feelings fro Swara..and his promises to her...Loved that..

Agree with the Online Audiences or the ones who live abroad do not as TRP viewers the God of Making or breaking a serial...

Hoping for better...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33
Very Apt topic !!!
Swara has repeated told sanskaar that everything between her and laksh is over as there was no trust and hence no real love...and as rightly said, a relationship with no trust is no relation at all...

Shomi and shekar's relation is the weakest of all..

It will interesting to see how the writers take this battle of trust vs love forward...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ur point is about trust na???? So plzz answer my one question???? Did ragini deserve a second chance from laksh???? He trusted him blindly but she broke it Terribly... So did she deserve to be laksh wife when she tried to kill laksh's love????
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very apt post...trust indeed is a foundation on which every relation is based and if the foundation is weak, then it takes minutes for everything to crumble down.
But there is a very thin line between trust and blind trust. A child when is small, mother trusts blindly, but if the same blind trust is there in adolescence, then there might be chance that she might over look some very visible signs which might show not everything is right. So I feel trust is relative and it changes with time and its magnitude manifests itself in a different way in different situations.
You know I actually did not blame lucky when he did not trust swara. he was never shown to be a very wise character. Always was iimpulsive. Swara trusted him in mms case as she knew him well and of course she knew how to use her head, where as lucky failed in his test. And to a certain extent I don't blame him. He did try to believe her despite his misgivings and more over every drug addict says that they don't do drugs, so I kind of empathise with him. He was in a tough situation and was not strong enough to weather that storm. His main fault was that he chose not to believe dida and decided to marry ragini in that same mandap. That's when I lost all my sympathies with him. Dude its one thing not to trust, but entirely other to marry your love's sister. That's gross..😡
Sharmishtha and shekhar, very similar to lucky and swara. but their magnitude is more. Hell lucky is still young and where as shekhar he is old but not wise. Sharmishtha is herself responsible for all her problems and to a certain extent, I don't feel sympathy for her. Shekhar trampled her everytime, insulted her, questioned her upbringing of swara, bad mouths his own daughter and ultimately breaks his own relation and what does shumi do..? cry buckets...geez...I can't stand that. love is important, but is it more important than self respect...?
I am hoping in the serial they will show a monologue of shumi that she did it all for swara, took all the insults for her so that shona can have her long cherished dream of a family, however chequered it is. swara believes in fairy tales but alas world is not like that..!! I really hope shumi does not forgive shekhar easily, as just after sanskaar, she is my favourite. I really hate weak people. love should give you the strength to rise not fall.
MM trusting lakshya's version, am ok with that as of course they will believe family first and not believing sanskaar...well I would say one bitten twice shy.
dadi...just don't get me started on her...she is the very reason for the mess ragini has created. the seeds were sown long time back. lakshya and sanskaar just added fuel to it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: bluecool

Very Apt topic !!!

Swara has repeated told sanskaar that everything between her and laksh is over as there was no trust and hence no real love...and as rightly said, a relationship with no trust is no relation at all...

Shomi and shekar's relation is the weakest of all..

It will interesting to see how the writers take this battle of trust vs love forward...


Yes Swara herself has put so much store in Trust...and why wouldn't she when Trust is the building block, the corner stone of any and every relationship a person has in ones life time...

Yes she has kept saying that...but she also believes in Forgiveness and Second chances and we saw that with her Trusting Sanskar...and even Ragnin to some extent...

Thus I do see her forgiving and giving Laksh a second chance...as for trusting him with her heart again...not sure she will be able to do that immediately or ever again...but then CV's can write and do wonders...😆😆😆

Shomi and Shekar...the weakest relationship ever...It will really be more interesting to see if Shoumi forgives Shekar so easily as she shouldn't...she should make him repent for his lack of trust in her and also her upbringing and his own daughter,...

Hope the CV's do justice to that...but with Indian Seiral preaching Sanskar and protaying the ideal and perfect Sanskari values in their bahu's, betis and patni...they deviate from the path of whats right like self respect, integrity, etc
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: swalak_shivya

Ur point is about trust na???? So plzz answer my one question???? Did ragini deserve a second chance from laksh???? He trusted him blindly but she broke it Terribly... So did she deserve to be laksh wife when she tried to kill laksh's love????


Yes my point is about different Trusts...

Do you mean did or does...

Its depends on Laksh if he wants to give her and their marriage a second chance ...It depends on if he himself wants a second chance with Swara...

Ragini's crimes are more ...but then when his trust was put to the test for Swara he failed miserably and opted to Trust Ragini more and completely and blindly...Thus hes to blame as much as Ragini dear and him giving her a second chance depends on him

Yes he trusted her Blindly...a person he did not claim to love but think of as a friend only and the person who he claimed to love he couldn't trust her...

Thus Blind Trust is never good...as I said and questioned about...

Her deserving to be Laksh wife or not...he decided to marry her no one forced him...He decided on his Own...so he must have thought so that she deserved to be his wife more then Swara...and now that he will find out th truth..does that not make her his wife??? Why??? Just because he made so many mistakes ...is he not guilty too???

Laksh is shown as a very immature character...who does not know how his actions have messed up lives...It was his not trusting Swara and Blindly Trusting Ragini that got him married to her...Blindly trusting her lies over all of Swara or Dida, or Shumi or Sanskar's truth...

I hope this has answers your questions...


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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: kubare


Yes my point is about different Trusts...

Do you mean did or does...

Its depends on Laksh if he wants to give her and their marriage a second chance ...It depends on if he himself wants a second chance with Swara...

Ragini's crimes are more ...but then when his trust was put to the test for Swara he failed miserably and opted to Trust Ragini more and completely and blindly...Thus hes to blame as much as Ragini dear and him giving her a second chance depends on him

Yes he trusted her Blindly...a person he did not claim to love but think of as a friend only and the person who he claimed to love he couldn't trust her...

Thus Blind Trust is never good...as I said and questioned about...

Her deserving to be Laksh wife or not...he decided to marry her no one forced him...He decided on his Own...so he must have thought so that she deserved to be his wife more then Swara...and now that he will find out th truth..does that not make her his wife??? Why??? Just because he made so many mistakes ...is he not guilty too???

Laksh is shown as a very immature character...who does not know how his actions have messed up lives...It was his not trusting Swara and Blindly Trusting Ragini that got him married to her...Blindly trusting her lies over all of Swara or Dida, or Shumi or Sanskar's truth...

I hope this has answers your questions...


laksh many mistakes make him stupid n guilty of not trusting swara n losing the person he loves.but it dorsnt make him guilty as ragini coz what ragini has done is so immense n criminal that none of laksh mistakes can equate to ragini crimes.yes laksh trusted ragini n got married to her which was hasty but as the truth is out his blind trust on ragini isnt and shouldnt be an issue of guilt to make him responsible for ragini as his wife coz the reason he married ragini then isnt the reason now after the truth is out.he was cheated n deceived .his blind trust n lack of trust ruined gis chances of being with his true love but ragini deceit n lies isnt his responsibilities nor guilty as her.how can he give ragini a second chance where there is only lies from her.now there ua absolutely no trust.trust easiest thing to break hardest to mend
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: kaku17

Very apt post...trust indeed is a foundation on which every relation is based and if the foundation is weak, then it takes minutes for everything to crumble down.

Exactly!!😃
But there is a very thin line between trust and blind trust. A child when is small, mother trusts blindly, but if the same blind trust is there in adolescence, then there might be chance that she might over look some very visible signs which might show not everything is right. So I feel trust is relative and it changes with time and its magnitude manifests itself in a different way in different situations.


Ditto!!😃

You know I actually did not blame lucky when he did not trust swara. he was never shown to be a very wise character. Always was iimpulsive. Swara trusted him in mms case as she knew him well and of course she knew how to use her head, where as lucky failed in his test. And to a certain extent I don't blame him. He did try to believe her despite his misgivings and more over every drug addict says that they don't do drugs, so I kind of empathise with him. He was in a tough situation and was not strong enough to weather that storm. His main fault was that he chose not to believe dida and decided to marry ragini in that same mandap. That's when I lost all my sympathies with him. Dude its one thing not to trust, but entirely other to marry your love's sister. That's gross..😡


Same to same...my sentiments exactly...what made me lose all sympathy with him was him marrying Ragini in the same mandap the same day...like...urgh...yuck..😡

Sharmishtha and shekhar, very similar to lucky and swara. but their magnitude is more. Hell lucky is still young and where as shekhar he is old but not wise. Sharmishtha is herself responsible for all her problems and to a certain extent, I don't feel sympathy for her. Shekhar trampled her everytime, insulted her, questioned her upbringing of swara, bad mouths his own daughter and ultimately breaks his own relation and what does shumi do..? cry buckets...geez...I can't stand that. love is important, but is it more important than self respect...?


Same same same...word to word same ...my sentiments exactly...like Ditto...

I am hoping in the serial they will show a monologue of shumi that she did it all for swara, took all the insults for her so that shona can have her long cherished dream of a family, however chequered it is. swara believes in fairy tales but alas world is not like that..!! I really hope shumi does not forgive shekhar easily, as just after sanskaar, she is my favourite. I really hate weak people. love should give you the strength to rise not fall.


I hope the CV's do that too...they show us Shumis monologue as to why shes back with Shekar..thye should show us that she hasn't forgiving him and he needs to repent on showing his lack of trust in her, her upbringing, their daughter and even her mom...Shekar just can't be forgiven so easily...it truly wont sit well with me personally...

The thing is I don't trust Indian Serials to deal with a women's self respect ...especially against her husband ...susral...They are on a high to show us The Ideal Bahu, Beti, Patni...one who has no Self Respect whatsoever...who is ever forgiving of all kinds of crime against her or her loved ones...

Thus really no expectations there...but one can hope...

Swara wants a happily family like everyone else in society...but will she forgive her dadi, daddy so easily for them showing no trust in her?? Will she be so forgiving just because of her mom...or ?

And like you Sanskar is my most favourite character...follwed by Shumi, Swara , Dida and now DP...

MM trusting lakshya's version, am ok with that as of course they will believe family first and not believing sanskaar...well I would say one bitten twice shy.

True...
dadi...just don't get me started on her...she is the very reason for the mess ragini has created. the seeds were sown long time back. lakshya and sanskaar just added fuel to it.

Exactly...Dadi is one person I don't want to get started on either...As it would be difficult to stop...😡


Thank you for replying...your POV matched mine completely...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chinyere

laksh many mistakes make him stupid n guilty of not trusting swara n losing the person he loves.but it dorsnt make him guilty as ragini coz what ragini has done is so immense n criminal that none of laksh mistakes can equate to ragini crimes.yes laksh trusted ragini n got married to her which was hasty but as the truth is out his blind trust on ragini isnt and shouldnt be an issue of guilt to make him responsible for ragini as his wife coz the reason he married ragini then isnt the reason now after the truth is out.he was cheated n deceived .his blind trust n lack of trust ruined gis chances of being with his true love but ragini deceit n lies isnt his responsibilities nor guilty as her.how can he give ragini a second chance where there is only lies from her.now there ua absolutely no trust.trust easiest thing to break hardest to mend


Have to disagree...Laksh too is to blame for Ragini's behaviour...just as much as her dadi, and Sanskar are...

They together acted as a Catalyst in making her do what she did..

Laksh is not Blame free or even Guilt Free dear...he has to be a Man and take up responsibilities for his part in what all went wrong in his own life...


Yes Agree Ragini in her Obsession committed one heinous crime after and other, but Laksh not even one used his brains or even questioned his blind trust on Ragini...so how is he not to be blamed for his own mistakes???

As for his staying married to her after the truth coming out...thats upon him..if he wants to give their marriage a chance...can he forgive and forget and move on...can he ever trust her again...


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