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Posted: 10 years ago
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Firstly I do not think she derives happiness from other people's happiness but rather she gets her confidence from their love and acceptance of her, When I 1st starting watching the show I always felt like Suhani was faking her confidence coz I just could not image any person having that much confidence in themselves. I remember I even said this on the forum but no1 really agreed with me than I can't remember what I had said in my comment back than but I found her confidence in herself weird and unnatural. I think we all have self doubts about ourselves and how we are perceived, how we look and I think the most beautiful person would find a fault in themselves and this is a very natural reaction. But Suhani never saw anything wrong with herself considering that she has had people pick on her darkness. Remember there was a scene when a sari lady told her she should not use a certain color coz she was dark so it is not as if she is unaware that she is perceived to be not perfect' so dadi's words is not something she has never heard before. But because of her family's love and acceptance we saw her never bother about those comments coz their love and acceptance made her confident and so we saw a very confident girl who expressed herself, stood up against anything that was wrong.

We then see her in the Birla house and back when I 1st watched it I hadn't picked up on how uncomfortable she had been with Yuvraj when they 1st got married (this is why her not pushing or wondering about them being physically actually made sense coz she was not comfortable with him). if u compare the 28 of august and 2 jan episodes u will see 2 diff girls. 28 august- u saw a girl unsure of herself, no confidence, u did not see her try and fit into his world and embrace it and be herself. And then if u watched the 2nd of jan episode when she met his friends u see a totally different person she is confident, she is talking to his friends, she is engaging them and entertaining them and her personality is coming through amazing. The major difference btw her august reaction to his friends and her jan reaction to his friends is that back than she could not feel the love that Yuvraj was supposed to have for her bt in Jan she did. So hence her ability to be herself is dependent on whether she feels loved from the person who is supposed to love he and if she doesn't u not gona see her being confident in herself and her being herself.

Yuvraj and his family's behavior towards Suhani is very bad and in the long ran could be very detrimental in how she perceives herself in the future and who the real Suhani is gona be. Coz they are in fact trying to change the way she is and modify her to how they want her to be especially Yuvraj. Yuvraj's words without thought, without understanding, u just do what u want to' is gona be a dialogue that is gona stay with her because when she goes forward in life she is probably gona watch every step she takes and for a person whose natural reaction is to react this will be hard. U are now altering how u react to things.

Suhani has not just sacrificed herself at the altar of love but she has given JerkRaj 99% power over her to the point that if he told her to kill herself she probably would. She never challenges him if he does something wrong, she does not change him she just allows him to be. Can u imagine the power 1 would feel to have such control over another person like this, imagine the sense of greatness that person would feel who in their right mind would actually want to let go of such a pathetic person? Yuvraj is the dominant, Suhani is the submissive until another loved 1 is in the picture and then she is not that. Yuvraj loses control over her when it comes to other people that she loves this is when their dominant /submissive r/ship changes coz she doesn't give him the attention he is used to. His reaction to Ankit might not have been actual jealousy because they had not done anything to warrant such looks and irritation from him but rather his feelings might have been coz of the fact that her attention was not on him her Master. With souyma again she is disobedient and does what she wants and when she does this she changes the equation of their r/ship and throws him of balance. She does not obey her Master' really this guy doesn't think he is a Prince he thinks he is her Master and she is his slave'. Their r/ship is just so 50 shades only thing there is no sex lol.

But back to her if u go back to the 1st episode u will see a Suhani who is not sure of herself it is actually snaky who was the confident 1, the bubbly 1, the go getter but now that is actually Suhani. So again in situations where she is not comfortable she is not confident and she will not go out and do anything. Even the scooter its souyma who taught her and forced her to learn how to use it and be bold Suhani did not want to learn. And dadi choosing the same sari for the kite day and I was very surprised to hear Suhani say that it was actually souyma who forced her to dress a certain or something like that when they were in college. So even in dressing something as simply as choosing clothes she probably does not even know her own style except to choose something she is comfortable with and is unadventurous in that.

In her love for the people around her she seems to change herself to suit them her words on the Christmas episode to the aunties that she doesn't change but rather she is the 1 who changes others is actually not true she has changed. 1 does not notice it because she is a good character and so her kindness is intact and she still treats people the same way but in her basic frame work she has changed. Her not standing up to dadi is the biggest change in her she has modified her reactions already to suit Yuvraj and his botox tramp of a dadi.

As for the goals/ aspiration part I cannot believe that the cvs did not bring up Suhani's work again in the show bloody b****rd. I dnt even know what she truly does.

I do think however that it is truly part of her nature to pamper and worry about the people around her she is naturally like this.

However love' is a powerful word for Suhani, really it is when she feels people are pulling away from her or changing she gets so clingy that she cannot and will not allow them to do this and wants to bring them back to the person she saw them as. For instance souyma the girl now wants to diet she changed her choice I know u find this weird but a normal person would mention it once or twice and then move on but Suhani does not allow a moment to go by where she would not try and force snaky to eat something oily.

Change, uncomfortability , not getting some1s love is something that makes Suhani uneasy and she feels she needs to do things for people to like her so hence her making their fav food or doing something they like is her way of bringing them closer to her. There is nothing wrong with this but she goes overboard and does not allow ppl to be.

Also with Suhani and dadi's initial scenes I always felt like Suhani could have a little dadi in her not talking about mentality but rather her rigidness and stubborn in having things done her way. Remember how she tried to get out of the fish spa and also the diwali issue about the fireworks she wanted things done her way she throw a bitch fit when they where lighting the fireworks. But again even this quality of hers has been changed byJerkraj.

I think the title means A beautiful girl right? But how will the woman end up being. So I think fans need to prepare themselves when Suhani finds out the truth to see some1 totally different coz if even now we do not know who she really is we will not recognize the person she will be after she finds out the truth. When a person is so extreme in nature there is no balance in a person so if a happy person is always cheerful and doesn't allow negative to enter them if something happens to make them unhappy the opposite would happen and they in their depression/sadness may not allow positive to come into their lives. This is why if after she finds out the truth yuvraj tries and is not successful in getting her back into his life and she moves away she needs a link to her past in the form of sharad and hopefully Ramesh to keep a bit of the person she was visible to her. The way she has tried to do with souyma.

I so wish Suhani was in an American show coz we could have maybe seen this character being handled properly really these Indian shows would never give us what we really want with such a character with their need for trps. It seems only if your name is neha yadav will any thought be given to your character.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Clarity... the question should be... Does Suhani have a brain...😉 and not does Suhani have an inferiority complex?😛
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nancy1996

Clarity... the question should be... Does Suhani have a brain...😉 and not does Suhani have an inferiority complex?😛




I think we already know the answer to that question is a resounding NO. 😆😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sandi, I think this is the best analysis I've ever seen on this forum, hands down. 👏 I think you dissected Suhani's character incisively and got to the root cause of the problem.

I too think that Suhani's confidence and self-esteem comes from the love, acceptance and approval of others. Her self-esteem depends on that and if this acceptance is missing, she deflates like a balloon. Suhani's a balloon and everybody's positive opinion of her is the air that keeps her in shape and afloat. Like a balloon that shrinks when you pump the air out, Suhani also becomes a shell when she doesn't have other people's acceptance and approval.

As you said, she is only in her element when she feels someone who is supposed to love her DOES in fact love her. I think you caught the difference in those two episodes very well. In the first, she is uncomfortable with this friends and the strata they come from and in the second, she is able to totally be herself without any restraint.

Regarding Jerk-Raj and Suhani, I too think that he has changed her for the worse and she was receptive to that in a bid to gain and keep his love. You know, I remember that time Soumya crashes YuvAni's dinner date and he tells her that Suhani is SUCH a good sport who never minds what other people say to her and NEVER gets offended. I think even I was so happy with his indifference towards Somu, that I dismissed the discomfort I felt at this dialogue. 😕 TBH, why is it a VIRTUE that Suhani never gets OFFENDED when people say OFFENSIVE things to her? Why does he appreciate the fact that she never retaliates to being insulted? Just because he gets to have his effing 'peace of mind'? What a joke. In fact, I now think the only reason he learned to appreciate her is because he began to see the kind of value she has as a slave. 😆

Can u imagine the power 1 would feel to have such control over another person like this, imagine the sense of greatness that person would feel who in their right mind would actually want to let go of such a pathetic person?

I think this part is the crux of their relationship. Suhani never gets angry with him even when she should. In fact, I think there has never been a scene where SHE is angry or when she starts a fight, despite him giving her umpteen reasons to do so. TBH, now I feel whatever affection he has for her is because he has seen her unconditional love and devotion for him. Who wouldn't like such a person? As you said, nobody would want to give up that kind of power over another. I had said this earlier too, but Suhani works as an ego booster to him. It must feel GREAT to see that despite how you treat them, a person totally worships you. Looking back on that scene where Ankit says he's become independent and Yuvraj gets irritated, I think Ankit was totally right. Is Suhani his mother or what? 😕😲 Why does he need her to look for his every belonging? Indian TV always shows that a wife knowing exactly where her hubby's things are and the husband depending on her for all his belongings is an example of a perfect marriage, but I beg to DIFFER. I behave like that with my mother or my maid. 😆 I don't expect to become my husband's caretaker, lol. I agree they are 50 shades of Grey without the sex. 😆😆 God knows what will happen when THAT enters the picture, I think he will totally dominate there too.

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I agree that Suhani desperately craves love and she is willing to do ANYTHING for a person she loves. Even with Soumya, she was the dominant one in their relationship, not Suhani. I started watching the show in Aug, so I'm glad you pointed out the scooty/clothes examples, so I can compare and contrast the difference in her behaviour. As you said, Suhani was supposed to change BH but BH has changed her. She has changed herself to give Yuvi 'peace of mind', principally by not arguing against the colorism that Dadi and her gang perpetuate.

Change, uncomfortability , not getting some1s love is something that makes Suhani uneasy and she feels she needs to do things for people to like her so hence her making their fav food or doing something they like is her way of bringing them closer to her. There is nothing wrong with this but she goes overboard and does not allow ppl to be.


Suhani gets clingy whenever she feels someone pulling away and she will do anything, including give them material comforts like cook their favourite food so that things revert to what they used to be. Personally, I feel this tactic doesn't work because then people will like you for what you DO for them and not who you are. For example, Yuvi also brings samosas for at times, but he is not trying to please her by doing things for her 24X7. At this point, the only reason that Yuvraj has developed some affection for her is because he has become dependent on her, like a child is dependent on its mother. Like yesterday's scene, I wonder how much he would like her if she started saying NO to him more often. 😕

Also, Suhani is actually a highly intriguing and interesting character whose transformation from a people pleasing doormat to an independent, assertive girl can drive the whole show, but Indian TV shows rarely handle personality changes well. I hope the SSEL CVs prove us wrong.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
Just agree to each word you have written. Remember when pratima said "if Suhani had not interfered Soumya would be still at Krishna's house where she was ill treated." During that I really wondered if her dil is better? Raising your hand alone is not ill treatment. The way Suhani is being humiliated by DiRagMen is ridiculous. And she takes all the shit because she is the most obedient sanskari bahu of Indian telly.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nimmu96

Just agree to each word you have written. Remember when pratima said "if Suhani had not interfered Soumya would be still at Krishna's house where she was ill treated." During that I really wondered if her dil is better? Raising your hand alone is not ill treatment. The way Suhani is being humiliated by DiRagMen is ridiculous. And she takes all the shit because she is the most obedient sanskari bahu of Indian telly.


Agreed. Abuse can be of various forms and includes verbal and emotional abuse. Why is the Phateechars' daily verbal torture not abusive? Currently, Suhani is being emotionally tortured by them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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2 minutes into the serial today.. and she has proved me right... she is brainless 😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow, this is one awesome post..

Personally, I think Suhani never had any complex before marriage... She only got it after marriage, as she mentioned to dumbraj once that if i was a bad bahu and goodlooking would that be okay??? She got the complex much later i think, and that too bcx of birla house..

Then, people pleaser is her nature, she is a sacrificing one...

Suhani is from a middle class family, and in middle class family ppl dont really feel bad doing the house work... Ordering people to bring water for them or nay such work.. Hence she likes to do the work.. And how everybody loved her food... Though it was not nicely presented.. Hence dadi compares her to ramesh :( just because she does house work.. And there is no shame in doing it.

Yes, yuvraj thinks of her as an inferior... Not an equal... Half the times he justified her in the show was to jalaofy soumya... The reason he took her out was cx soumya said so ... He himself has nothing for suhani else he would have been better...

And suhani is living with all this crap bcx she thinks yuvi loved her and married her...

Pyaar kehte hain taqat deyta hai, yahan to suhani se uski sari taqat loot le gaya!!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simpleton

Wow, this is one awesome post..

Personally, I think Suhani never had any complex before marriage... She only got it after marriage, as she mentioned to dumbraj once that if i was a bad bahu and goodlooking would that be okay??? She got the complex much later i think, and that too bcx of birla house..

Then, people pleaser is her nature, she is a sacrificing one...

Suhani is from a middle class family, and in middle class family ppl dont really feel bad doing the house work... Ordering people to bring water for them or nay such work.. Hence she likes to do the work.. And how everybody loved her food... Though it was not nicely presented.. Hence dadi compares her to ramesh :( just because she does house work.. And there is no shame in doing it.

Yes, yuvraj thinks of her as an inferior... Not an equal... Half the times he justified her in the show was to jalaofy soumya... The reason he took her out was cx soumya said so ... He himself has nothing for suhani else he would have been better...

And suhani is living with all this crap bcx she thinks yuvi loved her and married her...

Pyaar kehte hain taqat deyta hai, yahan to suhani se uski sari taqat loot le gaya!!!!



Yes, Famu. She has changed after marriage and has lost her some of her spunk. Not fighting against Dadi and her goons is something pre-marriage Suhani would not have done. She would have stood up against all this injustice. However, she shuts up now for Yuvraj's PEACE OF MIND. I think he should take sanyaas so that he gets it permanently. 😆😆😆 I don't think there is anything wrong with doing housework, but why does she keep doing it for people who call her a maid for doing it? That's my question. Why does she have to do it for RagMen who clearly DON'T appreciate it?

What you said about Yuvraj defending SUhani is also true. He actually only did it when it served one of his purposes- like making Somu jealous or making sure Dadi didn't find out about Pankaj's blackmail.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: nancy1996

2 minutes into the serial today.. and she has proved me right... she is brainless 😡



hahhahhahha. 😆😆😆 We have to tolerate her dumbness in the name of goodness.

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