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Posted: 9 years ago

#621

Actually I'm confused whose POV SKR is showing . .. Instead of showing more of Ram's heartbreak ,their search for Sita and Lakshman comforting him. ..they keep showing Ravan's family...SKR was always showing Lanka more than Ayodhya ..even before vanvaas..

When the actors are of such good calibre...its a pity that the script doesn't hold up. . Infact Surpanaka gets more screen space than Lakshman...

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Shivam...

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Posted: 9 years ago

#622

Originally posted by: rebecca6
Actually I'm confused whose POV SKR is showing . .. Instead of showing more of Ram's heartbreak ,their search for Sita and Lakshman comforting him. ..they keep showing Ravan's family...SKR was always showing Lanka more than Ayodhya ..even before vanvaas..
When the actors are of such good calibre...its a pity that the script doesn't hold up. . Infact Surpanaka gets more screen space than Lakshman...

I so wish that they show some ayodhya scenes in between , the state of mothers and the other 2 couples , as to how they are dealing behind

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Vrish

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Posted: 9 years ago

#623

Guys, one request - please don't sidetrack this thread w/ discussions on Chaya Sita & AgniPariksha now - that will come way later. Or else, do it in another thread.

So today, aside from the dove's encounter w/ Sita, Ravan is suspicious about Shurpanakha being on a leash, and how unlike her it is. I liked how he dismissed Meghnad's suggestion to increase Sita's security, and instead went into the 'Bhool-Bhoolaiya' strategy. What is this - the nawab of Oudh? Bhool Bhoolaiya is a labyrinth in one of the Nawab of Oudh monuments in Lucknow - built in the 18th century. How does it appear in SkR's Lanka? 😆

And Sulochana is now appropriating Sarama's (Mrs Vibheeshan's) role here - trying to figure out how to warn Sita? What is Sulo's role in SkR - siding w/ the Juliets whenever they prop up? 😆 Earlier Shurpi, now Sita?

Shurpi comes to Kaikesi w/ a plea for help. But the 2 of them have completely opposite interests here - Kaikesi wants Ravan to marry Sita, while Shurpi wants to kill Sita. So how does it even start to make sense for Kaikesi to intervene?

One thing I thought - these scene post Sita haran was perfect for Ashish to showcase his natural talents - that of a painful rage - the stuff seen b4 in GkD and Rangrasiya. It's a shame if they skip over that in the coming week

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Srutha

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Posted: 9 years ago

#624

I know Ramayan is called Sitayah Charitam Maham, but I still don't like the way they have dealt. With Sita Ma's character.

Janu, I agree with Lola. I've also heard that the exchange happened because Ravan can't touch Lakshmi Ma. Therefore, Chhyaya Sita, who was Vedavati, took Sita Ma's place to destroy him. There is a story that after Sita ke agnipariksha, Sita herself told Ram to marry Vedavati, who was as steadfast on Ram as Sita, but Ram refused, as his Eka-patni vrat. Vedavathi is later born as Padmavathi, and marries Srinivasa.

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Shivani Priyam Kumar

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Posted: 9 years ago

#625

^^Vedvati is Padmavati? This is very new to me.

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#626

Originally posted by: Meself
^^Vedvati is Padmavati? This is very new to me.

Vedavati being reborn as Padmavati is actually from Skanda Purana.

"In treta yugha, when I had incarnated as Ram, Ravan had deceitfully abducted my consort Sita. But fortunately she was not Sita but Agni's consort Swaha. Before this incident could occur,Agni had already taken Sita to Patalloka and kept his own wife 'Swaha' in her place. Indra's act had special purpose behind it--to avenge Swaha's death,who was Vedavati in her previous birth and who had committed suicide after being touched by the same demon.Actually, Agni's consort 'Swaha' was 'Vedavati' in her previous birth. So, in reality Ravan had abducted Vedavati instead of Sita. Later on, I thanked Agni and promised him that I would make Vedavati my consort in Kaliyuga. The same vedavati has taken birth as Padmavati. You must go and convince Padmavati to become my consort.Vakulmalika went to Narayanpur and informed the king about Sri Hari's desire. Emperor Akash was extremely delighted at the prospect of having Sri Hari as his son-in-law. An auspicious day was chosen for the marriage and thus, Lord Sri Hari got Padmavati as his consort."

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: MagadhSundari

There's a bit of a misunderstanding here - the Chhaya Sita theory does not posit that Ravan couldn't have touched Sita because of her chastity - it's because of her divinity. As an avataar of adishakti, touching the real her would burn him, and just as he couldn't carry Lakshman, carrying her too would've been impossible for him. There are several puranic stories about demons trying to carry avataars of Lakshmi and failing - here's a particularly fun one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL5p0YZm588

An additional element of the Chhaya Sita concept is that Vedvati had been dwelling in the fire ever since she immolated herself in response to Ravan's assault - when Sita entered the fire, it was Vedvati who emerged from the flames to exact her revenge. Sita was a purna avataar of Lakshmi, while Vedvati was only an ansha; therefore her shakti wasn't so overpowering that Ravan wouldn't be able to abduct her.

Hi Lols, I'm not saying this version doesn't have merit. I'm just saying I don't really buy it.

I agree that the power of Adishakti is so great that no one could touch her without her consent, but in this part at least I totally agree with what Valmiki has, that Sita let herself be kidnapped for the welfare of the world. It makes sense to me, because as Adishakti, she'd have the ability to control her own power, and in that instant she let herself be touched by Ravan so that his sin could become so great, Ram would have legit justification to kill him.

I totally agree with you and Shru that the same Ravan who could not lift Lakshman, would not be able to touch Sita normally, but Sita haran was an integral part of Ramayana. Sita Ma, as Adishakti, let Ravan be able to touch her in that moment, so that the purpose of her incarnation could be fulfilled through her abduction. Once she reached Lanka, Ravan was no longer able to touch Sita. In fact, he could not even get close to her. It was in just that moment in Panchavati that Ravan was able to touch her.

On the other hand, Ravan was not able to kidnap Lakshman, because nothing good would be served with him taking Lakshman's body. The war was already underhand, so Sesh Naag as Lakshman had no need to let Ravan be able to lift him.

The only time Ravan was able to touch the divine trinity was Sita haran, because it was an integral part of their lives. Ravan's destruction was why they took birth on Earth, so in order to fulfill their purpose, Sita on her part let the power of her chastity be unable to affect Ravan, just in that moment.

Ravan thought he was so smart, but if you look at the entire Sita haran in retrospect, the trio really outsmarted him. He fell right into their hands. 😆

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Arijit

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Posted: 9 years ago

#628

janaki, ravan being one of the two guards who were cursed by sanakaadi baal rishis indicates that he was also aware of what was going on.

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Shivam...

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Posted: 9 years ago

#629

Originally posted by: Arijit007
janaki, ravan being one of the two guards who were cursed by sanakaadi baal rishis indicates that he was also aware of what was going on.

sabhi log samajhdaar the😆😆

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#630

Originally posted by: Arijit007
janaki, ravan being one of the two guards who were cursed by sanakaadi baal rishis indicates that he was also aware of what was going on.

Actually, he was not, at least not per Valmiki Ramayana.

When the Sanat kumaras cursed Jaya and Vijaya that they'd be separated from Lord Vishnu, he gave them two choices. Either they could reincarnate on Earth seven times, being Vishnu's devotees, or they can reincarnate three times, being his enemies.

Jaya and Vijaya chose to reincarnate three times being his enemies, because they could not bear to be separated from Vishnu for seven lives.

Part of the curse was that they would not remember being Vishnu's guardians when they reincarnated, which makes sense, because they wouldn't be Vishnu's enemies if they remembered him. They wouldn't think of abducting Mahalakshmi if they remembered their divine forms.

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