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Posted: 9 years ago
Hi All
Had a busy day
So while we wait for DD's post to be edited, I think let me post my points for yesterday's..
yesterday had a few good dialogues, esp by nidra devi.. particularly, that not following pakriti would lead to destruction.. its such a deep one..
I recently said to someone in some other context.. when someone (a boy) was getting married.. a general discussion was going on about the girl's merits and whether the girl was good? I said that yes.. she was perfect for the boy as well as his family.. god or bad is always relative..
yesterday I was reminded of these words of mine while watching the epi .. I thought urmila was perfect for laxman..in just the previous episode she told sumitra that she doesn't have a habit of sleeping much.. yet she so readily accepted to sleep for 14 LONG YEARS!
One thing I really love about this show is that each character, however insignificant, is given importance and each of their stories (Subplots) are being well developed and presented..earlier it was keikayi n now urmila..

So I was saying urmila was perfect for laxman.. and what liked the best was that laxman knew she would happily accept to do anything to help him in his dharma.. in his kartavya palan.. This.. when they barely spent any time together.. yet he understood her so perfectly..thats y its said that sometimes a moment is enough to understand someone and sometimes even a lifetime isn't!

The best thing was everyone acknowledging urmila's sacrifice and mandvi pointing out laxman's sacrifice..

The one thing that touched my heart was keikayi standing at the door all the time.. the guilt writ large on her face.. wondering what new devastation her one mistake will bring now.. she's scared to come in... partly out of guilt, partly this fear of being able to now face a new situation she was herself responsible for, and also because she dint know if she's even welcome near the others. And, in spite of being so emotionally wrought, she still had the presence of mind to actually call kul guru.. she's an able woman.. no wonder she enjoyed even political power in court., she was indeed an all-rounder and excelled in each of her roles/talents - wife, mother (at least she proved a good mother to ram till the catastrophe), queen and a warrior. Grusha nailed each scene totally.. I am loving the way keikayi has been concieved and presented..

DD and Shruthi, I totally agree with the title and I loved your analysis on substitutes'.

Another thing that strikes me is that in life we often get what we don't want and vice versa.. as u all said, here:

Urmila doesn't like to sleep much but she had to sleep for 14 years.

Laxman being fond of good food and lots of sleep doesn't get either for 14 years.

Bharat - all he ever wanted in life was to stay with family, esp. his ram bhaiya but today he's all alone in nandigram

We can add almost every character in this list... but u get the picture?

And yes, LOVED, LOVED AND LOVED today's epi
Edited by sshirley - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Guys on slow connection. Made separate post on shatrughnan kirti. Rest analysis will post tomorrow
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Posted: 9 years ago

DD loved ur analysis as much as the episode.. as u said it was one of the best epi's of skr till date.. esp. SK scene

I will have to think some and then plunge into the discussions.. for now m surprised at the depth with which my ques and doubts were answered by CVs
also.. please go through my post just below your epi analysis.. its about the previous epi .
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra




again very touchi post, i felt very emotional reading this👏

Thank u
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: KALVIN

Beautiful. Now days my day is incomplete without reading this post. Such a beautiful analysis. Last two episodes were beyond appreciation and same applies to description in this post.


Thanx a lot kalvin.. We would also like if you share your thoughts with us 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Rex_Ryan

savita loved your colour concept... I never bothered that colours can be so much descriptive ...but I thought ocean blue represent urmila here free and passionate nature just like waves...regarding substitute I think we need substitute to not let the situation worsen because of void ...a substitute can try to keep things and situation from wrosening even more...(and regarding shatrughan even I felt his decision somewhat inappropriate [may be according to presnt situation]but he gave best possible justice to the girl according to treta yug and that time values he shown his trust on girl and also provided her protection) ...moreover he is a substitute of ram and conditions are not good for him... before sometime people were hating bharat and kakeyi for ram, sita and lakshman vanvas they think ram have to suffer and is subject of their selfishness ...I think that anger is still prevalent in them and he have to act accordingly to win back their trust and maintain peace and harmony in society but also he have to give justice to that girl ...he can't break any rule just like that ...people will have reacted differently if ram was present and do something like breaking that rule with providing evidences and circumstances in favour of that girl by making changes to assembly functions ...but again people trust him love him and consider him as their ruler their great king ...they were expecting him to be their king ...their great king ...and banishing him from the kindgom turned the things upside down ...they don't have that much faith in anyone as much as they have in ram ...they knew injustice is being done with ram by breaking the prampra of making another son ruler instead of elder one plus 14 year vanvas for elder son i.e. ram only because of amibition of kings favorite queen ...they need time to trust anyone in place of ram ...because they are common people ...moreover dshrath always worked within the limits of rajdhram...so shtraghun changing any rule just like that can make praja angry ...they will think ill of him ...whereas for ram they will try to understand his views because they have faith on him actually blind faith...they have already accept him to be their king ...even before his rajyaabkesh ...so I tkink substitute is a substitute ...he can never act like original one moreover generally conditions and circumstances are also not in his /her favour ...their main aim is to lessen the loss and maintain the conditions as it was ...people expect this from them ...atleast right then
p.s. totally my view...not to meant heart anyone's feeling ...and sorry for wasting your time if it doesn't make any sense to you ...I just wrote my feelings


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Posted: 9 years ago
I have always revered Ram and loved the numerous versions of his story, but it has always been Sita, urmila and mandodri who have been my center of interest. Sita for strength of character, steadfastness etc and Urmila for her sacrifice have always stood tall .But Mandodri evokes a feeling of pity...the moment She met Sita in Ashok vatika, she would have known that Ravan had passed the point of no return and his destruction was inevitable. Everyday Sita spent in Lanka would have been reminder of the troubles that would befell her family. The helplessness Sita felt was reciprocated by Mandodri though for diverse reasons. Sita at least had the hope of deliverance, but Mandodri did not have even that.
Anyway to come to my point, S.K.R has made me delve deeper into Ram's persona and understand him and his actions a little more clearly.It has always been easier to love Krishna even with his convoluted leelas, but understanding Ram with his subtleness and depth is sort of aided by this depiction of Ram. 👏Kudos to the team of SKR.
Now to today's episode...Janhavi I also could see the parallel between that boy's mother and Sita with her luv -Kush.There is a very Interesting story about Sati Anusuya; the Tridev to test her, came to her in the guise of rishis and when she tried to serve them food, they stipulated that she had to do it in her natural state...Sati Anusuya had by now determined their true form.. So with a smile she turned the three of them into babies and fed them ...When Ram addressed her as mata today that story came to my mind😊.
Janhavi Iam glad you liked the color analogy for Urmila.
@jaya and Shruhti,loved your posts. don't have time to reply to them.
@Rex-ryan Thank you for liking my colors. We are always surrounded by the colors of nature ,aren't we?
Savita
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hello friends, i am Trina.
All your posts are really wonderful and DD I really loved your analysis. Every day I try to read them because it helps me understand the episode. Todays episode was wonderful and so was ur analysis.But I am kind of very lazy to comment, but today I decided to comment on it😃
The title Wind was very apt for today.Entry of Hanuman was nice.

But my fav was Shatrughan and Kirti. Well really like both of them and I think I am like Kirti.She is just like air, insightful and intelligent. Sometimes we tend to ignore its exsistence but we forget that it is equally important as other elements.Like air Kirti is the more observant and forward looking. Although many people feel that their lives was not as difficult as others, but I think it was not easy also.Being youngest they are virtually without support and guidance, and yet they are facing many resposibility.

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Posted: 9 years ago
I forgot to put this in the post...
But we need to c ram siya as a single unit.

Today shatrughna kirti convo did give away this concept. Especially kirti's dialogue "sita didi kehti hai"

It will be now interesting to c..

Will ram banish sita or will sita free him of the dilemma?

This way or that way, they shall work as a unit till Sita going back...

Again the last scene will be the soil scene.. Once again a single unit...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: FAMS



Lakshman's love for urmila has brought in his guilt.. " love" is complex... It's not easy when pain becomes a part of life...

And what ram told was totally in line with what I had blogged 1.5 yr ago..

Express gratitude.. Thank you improves many things...



My heart cried with lakshman..

I don't like it when genuine ppl are separated from their lovers..

And sita ram separation will make me cry buckets...



Jhanvi your this line touched something deep down. . .

Will reply in detail later quite stuck up in office.

Also will read your blog but not today. . .

Shruthi Charvi and all very nice explanations. . .


Waiting for your reply fouzia..

Its okay dear, read the blog when you can. But yes I do expect replies... 😆 that's the biggest flaw in me... I have an obsession with discussions...

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