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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

Hi All

Had a busy day
So while we wait for DD's post to be edited, I think let me post my points for yesterday's..
yesterday had a few good dialogues, esp by nidra devi.. particularly, that not following pakriti would lead to destruction.. its such a deep one..
I recently said to someone in some other context.. when someone (a boy) was getting married.. a general discussion was going on about the girl's merits and whether the girl was good? I said that yes.. she was perfect for the boy as well as his family.. god or bad is always relative..
yesterday I was reminded of these words of mine while watching the epi .. I thought urmila was perfect for laxman..in just the previous episode she told sumitra that she doesn't have a habit of sleeping much.. yet she so readily accepted to sleep for 14 LONG YEARS!
One thing I really love about this show is that each character, however insignificant, is given importance and each of their stories (Subplots) are being well developed and presented..earlier it was keikayi n now urmila..

So I was saying urmila was perfect for laxman.. and what liked the best was that laxman knew she would happily accept to do anything to help him in his dharma.. in his kartavya palan.. This.. when they barely spent any time together.. yet he understood her so perfectly..thats y its said that sometimes a moment is enough to understand someone and sometimes even a lifetime isn't!

The best thing was everyone acknowledging urmila's sacrifice and mandvi pointing out laxman's sacrifice..

The one thing that touched my heart was keikayi standing at the door all the time.. the guilt writ large on her face.. wondering what new devastation her one mistake will bring now.. she's scared to come in... partly out of guilt, partly this fear of being able to now face a new situation she was herself responsible for, and also because she dint know if she's even welcome near the others. And, in spite of being so emotionally wrought, she still had the presence of mind to actually call kul guru.. she's an able woman.. no wonder she enjoyed even political power in court., she was indeed an all-rounder and excelled in each of her roles/talents - wife, mother (at least she proved a good mother to ram till the catastrophe), queen and a warrior. Grusha nailed each scene totally.. I am loving the way keikayi has been concieved and presented..

DD and Shruthi, I totally agree with the title and I loved your analysis on substitutes'.

Another thing that strikes me is that in life we often get what we don't want and vice versa.. as u all said, here:

Urmila doesn't like to sleep much but she had to sleep for 14 years.

Laxman being fond of good food and lots of sleep doesn't get either for 14 years.

Bharat - all he ever wanted in life was to stay with family, esp. his ram bhaiya but today he's all alone in nandigram

We can add almost every character in this list... but u get the picture?

And yes, LOVED, LOVED AND LOVED today's epi


Shirley 👏

Especially kaikeyi...⭐️

One modification... Kaikeyi excels as a mother to ram till the end.. Not juz the catastrophe... Its because of her, ram's jaijaikaar was possible.. It's because kaikeyi became the medium for ram to go vanvas and kill ravana.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


Waiting for your reply fouzia..

Its okay dear, read the blog when you can. But yes I do expect replies... 😆 that's the biggest flaw in me... I have an obsession with discussions...


DD had written very long post in the evening and thanks to electricity problem all was lost. And as you said todays episode gave many answers . . .

DD nice analysis i will elaborate on seprayion point some pther time, you all continue to discuss will join tomorrow. . .
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: FAMS


DD had written very long post in the evening and thanks to electricity problem all was lost. And as you said todays episode gave many answers . . .

DD nice analysis i will elaborate on seprayion point some pther time, you all continue to discuss will join tomorrow. . .


Fouzia if psbl reply on the blog post 😃

Yaar ye mere saath bhi hota hai. Network out, phone hang or at times IF ditches me
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers

SIYA KE RAM-15/04-

WIND

i guess i don't have to stress much on thinking what I had typed in the afternoon..😆

What connection.. This is absurd, abstract and so unbelievable...

The time I saw shatrughna in coming up I jumped off the sofa dancing like a maniac 🤣

Wow!!!! Wow!!!!Wow!!!!

Shruthi,Shirley, jaya I believe half of our answers have arrived...

The whole episode was a prophecy of after sita's banishment.. What connectivity 👏

Till the sabha decision it was the ayodhya return, allegations and the banishment...

Today a new chapter unfolds...

What after banishment?

Let's start with the beginning...

The mother in the hut was more or less equal to sita..

I didn't hear the dialogues much.. The dialogue delivery wasn't clear I felt

But what I could relate thru her talks was her life revolved around her child right from the time he was in her womb. She couldn't live a day without seeing him.. Her boy was lost...

The scene direct connects with the end... Sita going back...

Juz like the mother, Sita's life revolved around luv kush. Here the boy was caught by the hawk. I had termed the hawk as GREY SANSKRITI.

And c the connection later on.. Juz like the boy was taken in the whirlpool of sanskriti, luv kush will be taken in the same vortex of Sanskriti..

The lady loses her kid.. It affects her health. Hope is diminishing..

Again, sita will choose separation from her kids to give them their rights. And this is in the last part... Will connect it there.

Sumitra kaushalya reminiscing moments with ram.

But the dialogue that really pulled me was "ram humare saath raha hi nahi na"

I was reminded here of MB. "Janmabhoomi" "karmabhoomi"

For greater good, one has to leave the town. One has to leave his birth place. One has to come out of the shell to think about everyone.

I was so happy with the flashback scenes...
Sumitra shedding some light.. Only knowledge and swadharma can do that. Kaikeyi realized her mistake. And we need to cherish dashratha's memories. We need to be grateful for everyone's sacrifice: SR, BM, LU, SK.

And the best one is to come yet.. Why did I say that the episode was a prophecy to after banishment period...

If am not wrong, kaushalya said how sita must be managing alone..

This was the master stroke... ⭐️

And then sumitra saying shiv ji will help.. And our dearest Hanuman arrives. Shruthi I hadn't much observed or noticed ram hanuman in depth, but the promo has made me think in different way. I had cherished Parth madhav in star mb. Now am eagerly waiting for ram hanuman 😳

Hanuman and the kiddo vanars 😆 adorable!! So hanuman carries them for sair sapata in slow motion.. But kiddos want it fast supersonic *vroom*

I don't know but here I visualised luv kush being taken by hanuman to their ashram after reciting Ramayana for first day.. Smthn like that.. If it doesn't make sense.. Leave it 😆

Here hanuman had an upper hand but what will happen when luv kush enter the field?😉

I connected this only because of the kid of atri rishi ashram. As I said I see him as luv kush..

Hanuman darling grabs the falling kid in his super long tail.. 😃

Just like anusaya said that the winds are changing..

Yes hanuman has arrived and the picture is changing..

Shatrughna shruthkirti it's the best scene I have watched till date.. 👏

Its poignant, ironical, deep and simply WOW!!!

I take this scene back to the episode on "gifts".

And my gawd!!!! Whatta clever,crisp and a clear contrast cvs 👏

Recall what shatrughna had told shruthkirti.

" aapko yadi Yaha ke kisi bhi parampara and ritiyon ke baare me jaan na ho, mujhse awaysha puche"

And c how the scene is materialized.. Shatrughna is answering but shatrughna himself is questioning...

I so so so wanted this guilt trip immediately.. And cvs didn't disappoint me.. Thank you for that 😃

And this was smthn that I had typed in the afternoon.. 😃 it's so unbelievable.. My gawd!!! Exams na hote toh os likh deti me pehle. *tsk* *tsk*. I had said ki let's wait for shatrughna. Kirti has to arrive in the picture..

And c my durbhagya.. Network lost.. 😆 tin one hand I had my book and with the other I was typing here. God indirectly by pulling out the network said beta padh le.. And that helped me so much today. *phew*

Shatrughna's every point was full of "prakriti". I love this boy yaar. Juz love him... Am loving the screen space given to all.. In this aspect SKR is doing phenomenally well.. Except Shanta . Am not gonna forgive them for this single thing ever... 😡

Shatrughna in a way knew what happened was wrong. Kirti counters his view. So beautifully.. 👏 " vyaktigat" aur "rajdharma"
Girl jhappi from my end..

Kirti has taken up sanskriti for the time being and shatrughna is in prakriti for the time being. Bacchi h toh kushaldhwaj aur chandrabhaga ki hi na.. 😳 and shatrughna gives a reassurance that he hasn't forgotten what his ram bhaiyya taught him..

I had put this yday. Shatrughna indeed has given the best possible decision. But that seems to be good for short term. What in the case of long term?

I had compared mudgal and the dhobi then. And shatrughna exactly brings out the same point.

Her father will always find my decision as injustice...

The girl will remain stained even after her penance is over.

Even when she returns the society won't accept her.

The punishment given to her even when "nominal" has spread the message that she was wrong and hence was punished...

And this is smthn long running.. I don't know but am feeling as her penance ends she may try to kill herself...

The day she kills herself it will be a prophecy to sita going back to the earth.

I don't think the girl will give any agnipariksha or anything. She'll succumb to the pressures and this is going to ignite the dhobi to a different level. Ram will gave no other option than banishing sita.

But what really took me off was kirti.. She was exceptional!!!

Especially her last advise "upaay" and most importantly "sita didi kehti hai".

We had this one discussion earlier on intuition leading logic and why is it Siya ke ram and not ram ki siya..

I c a similar thing here. And today kirti's one word " upaay" made my day. "Chahe jitna samay lage"

As we were discussing what ram would have decided.. I think he would have kept it on hold for a sufficient tym..

I feel he would have taken sita's advise and then jumped the gun.

Shatrughna's acceptance of fear was again 👏

He fears the injustice in the eyes of one will invite a bigger sacrifice...

That's where u are heading baby..

Cmn to the title...

We are choosing "wind"

Thank u shruthi... 😃

The winds of change, the winds of construction, the winds of nurturing, the winds of destruction..

Anusaya pointing towards the window..

Pavan putra hanuman arrives

Sumitra's faith

Shatrughna's fear of what change will be brought up

When it comes to winds I like the concept of the pollen grains carried by wind. Dunno why.. Its weird.. But yes if science lovers have any beautiful explanations for this please come up.😃


P.S: I don't know but I guess am getting my weird connection with ram. One of the reasons that I find is that may be I belong to the city of panchavati.. I belong to the holy city where ram lived. Where hanuman was born "anjaneri".




Again good post, which i marked Blue HunuMan,point,...i laughing.😆😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
Sita Ma's second vanvaas is what I've been drawing parallels to of late from this show 👏👏 They are symbolising it extremely well.
Winds is a fantastic idea 👏👏
I know I've been highly inactive, but I will be so till I get some time off to actually type out a proper reply 🤢 Exams are tiring
Fantastic analysis you guys 👏👏 I will get back to them later :) And then add my rants to them 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: FAMS

I have shared your blog on my Facebook page. .

Will reply their tomorrow.


That's really sweet of you.. 😃

If you shared it, it means the post makes sense 😆

Its been so long that I wrote it that I didn't even remembered it.. I knew that smthn like this exists till a friend commented of it on my Twitter account 😆

Am that bhulakkad 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TwinMadness

Sita Ma's second vanvaas is what I've been drawing parallels to of late from this show 👏👏 They are symbolising it extremely well.

Winds is a fantastic idea 👏👏
I know I've been highly inactive, but I will be so till I get some time off to actually type out a proper reply 🤢 Exams are tiring
Fantastic analysis you guys 👏👏 I will get back to them later :) And then add my rants to them 😆

Srutha even my exams are dancing on my head
The next month I'll be on hibernation 😆

Waiting for ur take...
Good luck for your exams.. :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
@ayushi, thank you..
And yes it was meant to be hilarious.. Am glad it was noticed 😆 my sense of humor isn't that good u c 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers

Srutha even my exams are dancing on my head
The next month I'll be on hibernation 😆

Waiting for ur take...
Good luck for your exams.. :)

Thank you Jan :)
I can't be on hibernation, as I have a fellowship to attend in the summer :P
Good luck for your exams :)

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