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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: avalonhigh1234

I have always revered Ram and loved the numerous versions of his story, but it has always been Sita, urmila and mandodri who have been my center of interest. Sita for strength of character, steadfastness etc and Urmila for her sacrifice have always stood tall .But Mandodri evokes a feeling of pity...the moment She met Sita in Ashok vatika, she would have known that Ravan had passed the point of no return and his destruction was inevitable. Everyday Sita spent in Lanka would have been reminder of the troubles that would befell her family. The helplessness Sita felt was reciprocated by Mandodri though for diverse reasons. Sita at least had the hope of deliverance, but Mandodri did not have even that.
Anyway to come to my point, S.K.R has made me delve deeper into Ram's persona and understand him and his actions a little more clearly.It has always been easier to love Krishna even with his convoluted leelas, but understanding Ram with his subtleness and depth is sort of aided by this depiction of Ram. 👏Kudos to the team of SKR.
Now to today's episode...Janhavi I also could see the parallel between that boy's mother and Sita with her luv -Kush.There is a very Interesting story about Sati Anusuya; the Tridev to test her, came to her in the guise of rishis and when she tried to serve them food, they stipulated that she had to do it in her natural state...Sati Anusuya had by now determined their true form.. So with a smile she turned the three of them into babies and fed them ...When Ram addressed her as mata today that story came to my mind😊.
Janhavi Iam glad you liked the color analogy for Urmila.
@jaya and Shruhti,loved your posts. don't have time to reply to them.
@Rex-ryan Thank you for liking my colors. We are always surrounded by the colors of nature ,aren't we?
Savita


Thank u for telling anusaya's story savita.. I didn't knew it..

I actually loved the way she directly addressed sita and ram was a bit surprised. It was cute... 😳
And yes SKR is portraying ram so well... Am getting my answers of the unknown connection with him...
I don't visit temples or anything much. But SKR is tempting me to visit panchavati.. Go to sita guha. Its so so tempting me..
Star MB tempted me to visit pandavlena again near my house..
Its like am understanding the meaning of my own town.. I feel why didn't I visit them earlier with the same devotion.. Ppl from abroad and far off distances come here for this very reason.. And me being in this town for so many years, haven't seen the places much. I remember visiting them as a kid but the memories have faded and I need to make new memories...
Same applies to anjaneri... Every place is in my vicinity and I didn't visit it with the same zeal is what disappoints me. The pandavlena caves seem to have their own story... U peep inside and you feel someone has lived here just now.. Someone has left this place juz now.. Its mysterious, enthralling and demanding. And am understanding those minute details because of this thread...
Once my exams are over I'll visit them and write a blog. I hope you all will enjoy it..

P.S- savita u changed color.. 😃 congratulations for a being a senior member 🥳
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Posted: 9 years ago
@DD well analysed. Actually air or wind is my element. Want to write a long post.But still on slow connection. Just will put this point. The quality of wind is you cannot see it but you can feel it.Same is with change. You feel it first.you talked about pollen. See wind takes it.But no one sees where wind puts it.we know only when we see plants. Wind is something you can't hold.if you try to put it in a container also it will exert pressure and come out. That is change.the more you restrict it the more it will happen. Allow wind to flow freely. It is life giving feel change don't wait to see it .because we don't see gentle breeze. But tornado and cyclone make us know power of wind. We know breeze nurtures but cyclone destroys.allow change to be the breeze than cyclone. By not feeling change by clinging to meaning less tradition we make change a cyclone. @savitha I loved your post and I know that story.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Shruthi thanx for explaining wind... Pollen grains transferred by wind is my fav concept. On the contrary my element is water and charvi has explained it so beautifully always.. 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
"Vishwaas kisi tark ya pramaan par aashrit ho awashyak toh nahi. Hai kya?"

My fav dialogue from SKR. Now why did I quote this here. "Trust" is smthn I always love to ponder on.

The other reason for connecting with SKR is the relation with my blog posts.

I had blogged this long back. What happens when ur trust is broken? U forget to trust? U fear to trust?

Check out the following link of "Point to ponder:trust"

https://thedormantseed.wordpress.com/2014/12/03/point-to-ponder-trust/
Or else Google it, "point to ponder: trust" by the dormant seed.

Once again if you find it worth, share in your contacts. It may help ppl relate. Its not a pro piece of work but simply my thots. Smthn that I suffered as a child. And still Shruthi I would say the past hasn't got a proper closure in my case.

I would appreciate if you share your thoughts with me 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
my take on yesterdays episode...
WINDS nice concept @dd ...trina ur reference of kiriti as air is beautiful ...I haven't watched the yesterdays episode ...watched only two scenes first mother agony and another sk discussion ...sadly missed hanuman's entry ...this electricity problem my hectic schedule
regarding sumitra and kushyala convo ...sumitra was the wisest queen and this is shown beautifully in skr ...I already knew about ansuya story ...which strikes me most was sk convo ...their story was most neglected but I always feels that they also suffered equally ...actually they have the responsibility to maintain everything till ram sita and lakshman returns ...he stayed in the palace and have to protect kingdom so that ram came back and rule it ...again their every decision and step will decide the future of praja and kingdom ...they will held responsible for every flaws or inconsistency (although bharat look after administration in original ramayan ...but assembly proper functioning, implementation of laws and local administration was his responsibility ...they have to face locals and their problems because common man and other kingdom representative will go to place for justice or trade ties)...so in spite of being youngest they took responsibility and performed their duty well ...
regarding hanuman ji I have strange bond for him ...actually in my family we worishp bajrang bali very much ...but wait wasn't he cursed by rishi (don't remember name) in childhood to forget his flying and maximum powers and remember them only when someone remind him of powers and later when they reach to the south and face ocean jamvant remind him of flying power and ask him to reach lanka by flying over ocean and find sita ma there
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Posted: 9 years ago
SIYA KE RAM- 16/04-
BOON TO CURSE

Guys do we need an analysis today? 😆

For a second I thot hanuman and sita will meet at the banks of the river 🤣

The episode begins with kiddo vanars complaining for food.. They are hungry. Hanuman ji gives them a banana and himself eats the supermarket 😆 kiddo vanars are watching dumbfounded. After devouring the supermarket hanumanji pounces on their chotu bananas which the kiddos give reluctantly.

Then the really complain about their hunger. Hanuman ji tries to help them and takes them to the banks of river.

Hanuman promoses them to give melons and points smthn.

The kiddo vanars are phurious as they are leaves and not melons 😆

Hanuman ji pulls the leaves or creepers whatever it was and the melons fall down.. Plenty of them. One big supermarket 😆

A very imp clue here...

Why is it said that

"beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder" or

"if you wanna change the world, change yourself" or

"Try to see things differently"

This is where a parallel of lakshman and hanuman can be drawn. And why hanuman is the best possible substitute when lakshman is unconscious.

This takes me back to attack on bharat and lakshman on his toes.

It is very clear, lakshman has no full knowledge of herbs or directions or places. But what works for him is his determination, love, passion and most of all faith.

He by hook or by crook reaches rishi mudgal's place. Once again the place seems barren,abandoned and aloof.

But this man doesnt lose hope. In the face of adversity he brings out the best possible solution and the perfect remedy.

What makes this possible?

I remember shruthi had used a line for ram and shatrughna
"winners don't do different things. They do things differently"

And this applies to lakshman. He observes. He observes keenly. He knows what he has to get. He knows what he is here for.

If adishesha knows that he's to protect Vishnu, to support Vishnu. Shivansh also knows what he has come for. He's there to help Vishnu. He's there to take away all the troubles. "Sankat mochan mahabali" pawan putra hanuman..

In lakshman's dormancy, hanuman will be doing his share of work.

And there's one common thing that drives them.

It's the unparalleled faith, trust, dedication and love. It doesnt matter that lakshman was bonded by blood to ram. It doesn't matter hanuman was a stranger.

What really took them miles was one simple word "trust"

The trust that may be wasn't build or created. It was smthn they had got with them at the time of their birth.

For normal ppl trust build up is a major thing. And once the trust is broken it becomes tough to rebuild and resurrect. Why am I bringing this here? Once again I have found an uncanny resemblance of SKR with a blog post that I had written 1.5 yrs ago. Have shared the link of previous pg. But if you have missed it Google "Point to ponder: Trust" by "The Dormant Seed". If you want regular updates you may follow the blog through mail or can like the page " The Dormant Seed" on Facebook.

This is not an advertising post at all 😆

So where I was..

I was on trust and a connection. The connection that may not be defined. The connection that you may have from previous births.


As I have brought lakshman and hanuman together.. Let me elaborate this..

I ges this was the reason I loved the recent promo.

The promo of "raksha".

What sita forgot in the promo was " lakshman" 😆

Why did lakshman come on exile when he wasn't asked to?

"TO PROTECT". Jaha Vishnu waha shesha. If Vishnu takes shesha has to take an avatar.

And what shall happen when this shield is out?

There has to be someone who gives a tougher shield.

If lakshman was to protect ram and sita.

Hanuman was to protect that very shield.

The only point that governs this is blind faith and luminous hope.

The other pt of parallel between both is " OBSERVATION "

The person who gives protection has to keep his eyes ears and all senses open to all sorts of stimulus.

To find green melons beneath green leaves is not magic. Its not a technical job. Its belief. Its faith. And most of all alertness.

"To believe itself is magic".

The day u believe magic happens.

And this belief has started with hanuman and melons. He'll always find things before others. He has never seen sita but he'll find her. He doesn't know what sanjeevani is, but he'll bring it. He doesnt know who luv kush are but will find that they are his Lord's sons.

This magic did happen for lakshman too. The day he felt he was losing to sleep. Nidra devi appears. Once again her no is a big no for him. But there's belief. There's faith. There's trust. Someone is there who'll take his sleep.

The time bharat was unconscious, lakshman went off. Sita reassured mandvi that lakshman shatrughna have gone to bring rishi. And this is unbounded faith.

Everyone knows, when it comes to some work, lakshman shall fulfill all his duties.

Lakshman's dedication to his brothers ( not juz ram) and his blind trust on urmila made her accept 14 yrs of sleep.

They both will always know the hidden. Lakshman the golden deer and hanuman luv kush.

The next scene is lakshman sita. It's developing and refreshing. They are preparing for Ram's bday. I actually loved lakshman's hesitancy. He knows nothing can be hidden from his bhaiyya.

He reaffirms if the work won't need much time. He also tells sita that she'll get things near to the banks of river and she won't have to go far. And c the development, sita acknowledges 👏 the very debate which had begun on her cmn to forest to her going on the river bank alone ⭐️ WoW!!!!

Lakshman's position reminds me of the scene when ram had asked him where he was the whole day and lakshman replies that he was with the kids for the reconstruction of ashram 😆 and how cleverly ram brings out the truth. Someone apaty from me has become closer to you. 😆 and lakshman blurts out.. 🤣
Bechara was caught...

Again he's in a tough situation.

I actually relate to both lakshman and ram in this case. I can't hide things and ppl can't hide anything from me 🤣

Ram comes and asks about siya. Lakshman cooks up a story of painting. Ram decides to go there and lakshman again dodges it by saying let's meet ashram ppl. So matter handled.. Check. But the surprise won't be hidden for too long 😆

Sita at the banks of river. Title track plays. I like it.. 😳 after such a long time thoda extended was played 😆

She is doing smthn with the mud. I assume it will be an idol or statue.. Smthn like that. But kiska? That's what am curious of... If she gifts her own idol.. It will be a wow for golden statue. If she gifts him his own idol it will be the symbol of her love. If she gifts a random idol it can be signalling towards hanuman.

Anyways, if none of this happens don't hit me 😆

The next scene is wow!

Lakshman ram talk with the ashram ppl. And how they say that raghu was lucky to have you. There are many who haven't returned yet 😭

Ram assures them that he'll free them from the demons.

What he next says to lakshman is the icing on the cake.

"Sanyasi ke saath saath Kshatriya dharma ka palan karna hoga"

Having shatrughna in this week I cud only think- the counch is blown.. War has begun and the warriors have entered the field.. 👏

Another scene that was the cherry on the cake was kaikeyi's realization.

The walk of realization has completed. She had walked from the closed doors of the palace. She now ends up in her room closing the doors of her past...

Whatta beautiful scene it was 👏

Kaikeyi's father talking of boons and is reluctant to disclose the reason. Her mother is more worried about her self respect than his life. She was disowned.

Kaikeyi was given the liberty of asking for two boons..

The boons with which she invited a tragedy for herself.

Kaikeyi's father disowned her mother but wasn't dead.

On the contrary kaikeyi was disowned and dashratha died.

Shruthi today I really understood why were u saying that the past needs a closure..

Kaikeyi ruined everything more than her mother.

Ram's promise to the ppl reminded me of mudgal's blessings to him. I don't remember them word to word but it was smthn in line with demons and forest and Ram's glory.

As kaikeyi's past closes with her realization, a new chapter of new promise has begun.

For me with kaikeyi's realization, the promise given by dashratha has been fulfilled. The reason is very philosophical and a bit absurd.

How far can one fulfill a promise? Till the person who has demanded is satisfied. With kaikeyi's realisation the aspect of satisfaction comes into play. The role of dashratha's promise is over.

I was at first clueless why kaikeyi was included today.

And now I get the reason. For the other promise to begin, the first has to be fulfilled.

And Ram's promise to the ppl come after kaikeyi's scene. 👏

Plus Ram's declaration that roles are changing...

Till then it was "sanyasi" as told by kaikeyi.

Now it has become "sanyasi+Kshatriya"

Cmn to the title..

Its boon to curse..

Thank u Shruthi.. 😃

Though I have included very little of it..

Kaikeyi's boons prove to be a curse for the family.

Same to her father and mother.

Disrespect from any side for the boons shall become a curse.

Kaikeyi crosses the limit and her mother takes it as a matter of her ego. End me satyanaas

Sita's ability to understand nature ( I see this as a boon. Cz ppl rarely can understand nature so much) will become a curse once "moh" and "greed" to see the golden deer seeps in her heart.

Lakshman's boon of obedience shall result in the curse of abduction.

Hanuman's boon of being unbounded shall be tested with luv kush.

Shatrughna's decision which seems to be a boon for the society at large will become a curse for the girl as well as the royal family later.

P.S: if u read my blog post, don't forget to share the link in ur contacts and comment there. Am restricting from commenting here for a reason. Though it may be on the same track of SKR, we might lose track of the analysis.
But again if u feel like commenting here, u are free to do so 😃 no issues. I was juz trying to make things convenient.
Share the link for the reason that there may be ppl who may relate to it. After all "trust" is smthn that ppl experience on a daily basis. Breaking or building, either way its a boon and a curse 😃



Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Arre DD,, I came here just to see ur and others' take on the epi.. like hanuman found fruits from the ..leaves (?? Or whatever it was).. I think u too will find some meaning, some connection some loop in todays epsode..
So, of course! We all need ur analysis 😈.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Yes DD we need analysis. There was loop closure in kaikeyi realization. Loop opening in ram vachan. Both related to boons.
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Posted: 9 years ago
no analysis today ...come on everyone!!! @dd you will find some loop some connection in todays episode like sita and lakshman bonding...
a loop which starts with ram assuring ashram wasis that he will help them against vultures ...his realization that they will have to perform the yodha's duty as well...and will close with ravan's death ...the main aim of ram's life
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

😛 😆😆😆

Arre DD,, I came here just to see ur and others' take on the epi.. like hanuman found fruits from the ..leaves (?? Or whatever it was).. I think u too will find some meaning, some connection some loop in todays epsode..
So, of course! We all need ur analysis 😈.


I'll watch the repeat and post 😆

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