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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers



tera mujhse hai pehle ka naata koi
yun hi nahi dil lubhaata koi
jaane tu ya jaane na
maane tu ya maane na..

we are so so same charvi baccha...😆

koi believe kare na kare i can feel you...😃

we need to grab a coffee asap...😛


I was thinking the same 😳
Can feel you are there with me ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
Yes DD I guess ur right.. We should wait for skr to give us the answers
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Posted: 9 years ago
Guys shall update after 11-30 have guests around.. Watched the episode on mute mode... 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
SIYA KE RAM 14/04-
SUBSTITUTES

"Aap ko mere liye kasht uthaane ki aawashyakta nahi hai."

"Aap ke liye kiya jaane wala koi bhi kaarya mere liye kashtakaari nahi apitu santosh ka nimeet hoga"

I still remember this scene.. The scene which I had put on the first pg of the first thread..

Finally the loop closes...

And so beautifully... 👏


DP being the advisor I knew it will be nidra urmila.. But I felt it will limit the actor's potential...

But today am glad they brought it.. And kudos to yukti for continuing it knowing that she only has to sleep.. 👏

So finally watched the episode... What shud I say? Waah!!!!

Ram is making shiv linga.. And tomorrow hanuman is entering... Whatta perfect connection 👏

Hanuman is shivansh isn't it? Shruthi pls confirm this..

Lakshman trying to distract his attention from sleep.. Sita observes and is disturbed..

She rightly goes to ram so that he can make a way out..

"Main uski duvidha se awagat hoon" I felt he said it for both lakshman and shatrughna.. How well this fits in case of shatrughna also 👏

The havan... Why I felt that ram siya did it for lakshman..

Nidra devi arrives and am glad they kept everything mute till urmila slept.. Clever strategy for inducing curiosity among ppl who don't know this story...

Kirti arrives to wake up urmila..

Check for color descriptions by savita below.. Beautiful ⭐️ the blue pull over did grab my attention.. Especially the shade of deep ocean blue.. Savita thanx a ton yaar. I have started observing and acknowledging colors coz of u 😃

Shruthkirti readily calls everyone...

Everyone arrives.. And am glad kaikeyi stood at the door. Bechari yaar.. 😭

They try to wake her up.. Check her brethibg rate.. All's well but what happened..

And vashishtha arrives 👏

He tells she's fine.. She isn't ill. But she also won't wake up.. She will get up when TIME COMES.

By his powers he tries to know what really transpired..

And we get every scene from nidra lakshman to urmila.

Nidra Devi's dialogue "prakriti k virrudh jana vinash ko aamantrit karna hai".

My gawd!!!! Yday I mentioned lakshman denying prakriti... Urmila will borne the effects..

And yes the word " vikalp" was very important.

They do find the way out.. Lakshman asks her to give his share of sleep to urmila..

Urmila accepts it gracefully.. Yukti's voice modulation was perfect!!!!

The flashback ends and vashishtha informs of the happenings...
What really made me 👏 was kaushalya.

This scene and dialogue takes me to the grihapravesh scene.. Kaushalya had acknowledged mithila ki putriyan and especially sita.

"Sita Tumhe paakar raghukul dhanya hua.."

And I had said that She'll acknowledge other mithila sisters also.. Today urmila earned it 👏

Today kaushalya acknowledges rajrishi janaka.. "Itna bada tyaag" "urmila"... The voice modulation...

"Roop, guna aur sanskaro ka aisa anokha mel sansaar mein durlabh hai"

Even that day snigdha had nailed it with her voice modulation. Today she did the same...

Now c, its mandvi who assures kaushalya that even lakshman is doing a tough and an inspirational work...

So final proof.. We aren't getting mandvi's outrage at all...

They ask vashishtha who had informed them.. And he says kaikeyi..

Shaaa...

The helpless looks will haunt me for a long time..

What I really loved was the connections... Shruthi am reminded of the episode which u had titled veiled and I had titled it as broken pieces of puzzle.. I had regretted so much after that 😆

Lakshman loves food but now he gets minimal to eat.
Lakshman loves to sleep but he is now sleep deprived.
Urmila doesnt like to sleep much but she chooses to sleep for 14 long years...

The next is ram lakshman convo...

My gawd...

Lakshman's turbulence... "Kasht" makes a grand entry once again 👏

Ram's explanation.. I again had a big lump In my throat...

Express your gratitude.. Free yourself from guilt.. I don't know why I feel like putting it here. But had written a blog on "love shall find a way" on "the dormant seed". If u all want to read please Google it with this title and blog name u'll find it.. I think shruthi has read it already.. So she'll know why am I quoting it here.

I have written on saying thank you... Its more imp to express gratitude once u r in relation than saying 'I love you'

Lakshman's love for urmila has brought in his guilt.. " love" is complex... It's not easy when pain becomes a part of life...

And what ram told was totally in line with what I had blogged 1.5 yr ago..

Express gratitude.. Thank you improves many things...

Shruthi I agree with u... This is not gonna make ram guilty in future or sita blaming ram for her cndn..

They are justifying ram so beautifully na shruthi... 😃 today am understanding that though I felt sita was wronged why didn't I feel like blaming ram..

The question that was there in my mind for the past 10+ yrs is answered by skr now..

Shirley I guess even ur answers have arrived with today's episode...

Not fully but partly.

It struck me today.. I missed a very imp point yday...

Dharmadhurandhar, maryada purushottam but above all "nyaaypriya"

How can he deny justice by not banishing sita?

Shatrughna, dhobi, praja and ravan were just the nimmit..

Sita and ram had to be separated.. Cz that was niyati..

Vishnu was cursed by vrinda that he'll be separated from his spouse in his next janma...

Cmn to lakshman sita... I loved their scene yaar.. 😳

The bond development... 😃

Sita gives him an idol... Shruthi even I was reminded of the golden statue that ram will make...

I loved the epi for one reason..

Father and mother caring for their son.. Trying to give him peace. Trying to make him comfortable. Trying to share his pain...

My heart cried with lakshman..

I don't like it when genuine ppl are separated from their lovers..

And sita ram separation will make me cry buckets...

Cmn to the title..

Its substitutes.

Shruthi thanx a ton for the title..

Urmila substitutes lakshman's sleep.

Idol substitutes urmila

Mandvi substitutes sita

Golden statue will substitute sita.


P.S: the link to my blog post is on next pg. If u find worth it, do share your views with me 😃



Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Guys do you need MB analysis. Yesterday epi should have got answer today in nidra devi's dialogue. Made seperate post on it with connection to Bhagavad Gita.
But today's episode the beauty was Sita giving an idol of Urmila to Lakshman. To ensure he will always find peace with that idol though it can never be Urmila's substitute. Golden idol of Sita by Ram.
And another thing why is Lakshman feeling he has done injustice to Urmila. Understand that whenever sanskriti is taken over by Prakriti to a person having conscience there will be a guilty feeling. Something like you have not done the right thing.
And Ram corrects by telling. Be thankful for the support and sacrifice she has done. Because if you feel guilty for what you have done, it will haunt you.
This also has connection to Sita's banishment. Ram will not feel guilty because he will know understanding the situation Sita will accept his decision. There will be always gratitude from his side towards his wife for understanding him. Understanding his moral dilemma. Ram have always appreciated Sita in every way. He has always acknowledged her contribution in his life. It is that level of love and appreciation that makes Sita understand her husband.

In many cases what happens is that husbands dont acknowledge or appreciate the wife's contribution in their life. When that happens a women feel dejected and it will back fire one way or the other.
Acknowledgement and appreciation are needed in life. Not only in hus-wife but in every relation. Then relations will be harmonious.

I saw some posts on Shatrughna decision. I would say Shatrughnan gave the best possible decision in the given situation. Jaya gave the most valid points about proof. See for any judgement proof is needed.
That's why Ram makes Sita do AP so that proof is created. That's why Sita banishment becomes an issue because it is the banishment of the woman who has cleared AP. Ram knew rajdharma.

And coming to izzat and rape. Rape is a crime. Unlike extra marital affair or pre marital affair that is done with the consent of both parties rape is showing physical prowiness over emotional prowiness.
Jaya bought the right point of unwanted pregnancy and even I agree a girl has to think twice before having relation with a man outside the wedlock. It can not only derail her, but also a child which does not have any fault.

But that excuse can never be used for rape and in the case of rape women is the victim and man is the criminal. He has to be punished, while giving emotional support to the victim


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Posted: 9 years ago
Shruthi 👏
Yet to watch the episode 😃

Great analysis... I watched the epi on mute mode.. And that statue sita gives lakshman.. My gawd!!!

I'll come back with scene to scene...

And yes shatrughna did give the best possible decision... Bechara!!!! Sach me I was like 😭 uff!!!!

Jaya's post opened my eyes actually...

But I still feel ram would have brought out some other way ( this is only in line with ashwamedha horse)

Shatrughna's one decision is going to make ram decide in line with his decision...
Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
A good episode. Urmila accepts 14 years of sleep without any regrets for her husband. She was wearing the colors of purity and sacrifice and the bedspread is dark ocean blue. A good visual symbolism as we know that Lakshman as Sheshnag rests on the ocean representing the 'samsara', so in a way he keeps her safe in his eternal abode till he can come back to her. The tears on her eyes as she lay down could represent pride that she was helping her husband in his chosen path or maybe it could have been gratefulness for making it easier for her to cope with his absence.
Till today I had thought that the loop that opened with Ram making that golden statue of the horse was connected to her post -banishment, but I realized that it could not be that straight a line today. He saved her life by not making the golden statue as in the 'horse episode' but by sending her away from Ayodhya. He both reiterated to her doubters that he believed in her completely and still considered her as his soul mate ,by making the golden statue of her. But perhaps the statue loop opened with Sita giving the statue of Urmila to Lakshman.Let me just wait and see how it plays out in the future.
The color and the element of gold stands for both purity and greed.It is depicted in Ramayan beautifully...Ravan had built his Lanka with gold ,but his actions polluted its purity and sanctity...ultimately it was completely destroyed. Mareech used the golden deer to lure Ram and Lakshman away from Sita,that resulted in his death. Sita used her gold to leave signs or markings for Ram to follow.
The spectrum of colors can be equated with our thoughts,emotions and actions, all of them exist in us and how we put them to use decides our fate and our life.
Savita

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Posted: 9 years ago
Shruthi and savita, loved both your takes..
DD eagerly awaiting ur take.. Please hurry up.. Nidra Devi standing impatiently on my head😛
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

Shruthi and savita, loved both your takes..

DD eagerly awaiting ur take.. Please hurry up.. Nidra Devi standing impatiently on my head😛


Editing Shirley 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Waiting 😃

Can. Someone please sleep for me

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