Why is all gun milan in Horoscope can result in a sad marriage

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ok today let me touch upon my views on this horoscope matching. Since all the other things Ram spoke about marriage I have covered in multiple posts of mine.
Let me tell you couple of things first before I proceed on analysing the topic. First and the foremost do I believe in horoscope and the fact that planetary movements can create influence on my life. My answer is yes. If we believe in the force of gravity that influences us, the sun and the moon that influences us then of course the other planets also influence us in one way or other though we cannot see them. Since we are all part of solar system.
Now how much do horoscope matching matters to me as far as marriage goes. My belief is that in a love marriage where the boy and girl have chosen each other in mind this should not be used. Even the most learnt astrologer will say milan of mind is over and above any horoscope match.
Now coming to arranged marriage. This is a double edged weapon in an arranged marriage. If you want to say no to a marriage instead of telling anything bad about the girl, boy, girl's family or boy's family the horoscope gives a polite way of rejection.
Now what if you want to proceed with the marriage and what does horoscope hold. For me it gives a direction since not much is known in depth about the boy's or girl's nature the horoscope matching gives a direction on whether these two people can sustain a marriage. It gives the chance percentage. And like Ram said to make that chance successful is completely in the hands of husband and wife. Horoscope is just a probability of success of a marriage. If it say 70% it means there is a 70% chance of success of a marriage, and we should not forget the 30% failure. Whether you will be in 70% or 30% depends on your actions in the marriage as Ram rightly told.

Now coming to why all gun milan can result in a sad marriage. I do not know much about horoscope matching but know this much that each parameter in that matching matches your various characterstics, your thought process, your views, your mental and physical compatibility. Now what is the problem if all these matches. All your decisions will be same, all your thought process will be same, your views will be same and you will be mentally and physically compatible. Theory this sounds good. But in life there arises a circumstance where a different thought process can ward of a calamity or a sorrow. In Sita -Ram's case when they see that golden deer Lakshman warns. Neither Ram, nor Siya heeds much to that warning. If one of their thought process was different, one would have heeded that warning. Maybe would have made other understand and Sita apaharan could be avoided. Yes we know Ravan has to be killed hence Sita apaharan needed and all, but from a story point and from the life point of Ram-Siya their worries started from that point. That decision which could have been averted if there was a conflict in thought process.
Yes different thought process causes conflicts. But if you know to manage conflicts as a couple, then some kind of conflict helps in certain situations. A different thought process can give a different way.

This is just my POV and I found it logical so thought of sharing it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for sharing di
Very nice analysis
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lovely episode today after a brief lull 😊
The explanation given by Rama , as to what makes a marriage actually work is very good.

Horoscope matching is still given the utmost importance in almost all Hindu marriages.

But there are also many marriages which still work out fantastic in spite of mismatched horoscopes or there exist which break, in spite of matching by required points.

So, what makes them fail or succeed...? Beautifully explained by Rama...also, a marriage is just not about 'love' but it is a responsibility and a duty.

A beautiful message, if one is open to imbibe same ⭐️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You are doing an excellent analysis post on each episode, Shruthi and all other replies by others are nice to read.
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Though I don't believe in horoscopes, but I have heard that all gunas meeting is supposed to be disastrous for a marriage, as there should be some differences between them for an enriching life.
I think you have explained the reason for this very well! It was also a very nice episode, the only jarring note being the language which is too casual to denote that era, I wish the language used was a little more pure and formal!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lovely analysis well explained. In our religion we don't believe in horoscopes so don't have any idea about it. But, I too was wondering what is wrong if all the gunas match? You have explained it so well.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well articulated post, shruthi...
Astrology, horoscopes, numerology are things that people find difficult to believe in... Many times ppl feel that horoscope will tell their future... If things don't work out, ppl blame the wrong direction given by the same and lose their faith on it...

One thing ppl forget is that horoscopes simply predict... You rightly pointed, it gives a probability.. Ppl pay heed to astrology for many things, career, marriage,lifeline,health,prosperity,etc... And these things are predicted on the basis of the planetary positions at that instance... And the effects of the planets on the whole change with time... So what remains constant? Should one believe in it?

The only thing constant with the predictions are the nature and personality of a person... And why is this consistent? That's because a horoscope is prepared with your birth details...

Guna Milan simply gives how much compatible both can be on the basks of their planetary positions at the time of birth...

A person can have a love marriage or arranged marriage can also be predicted. If a person can have one or more no. of marriages can also be told if any planet is afflicted... But again if the horoscope of the prospective groom/bride is better, then there kinds of possibilities are nullified...

I have heard and seen many ppl blaming for not matching the horoscopes before marriage or the astrologer for suggesting incorrect... To them I only want to say, a horoscope only gives possibilities.. And this is true in every area of your life...

I have been facing career pressures of late. Had taken up advices from astrologers for the same. My education and interests differ a bit.. So what to do? The answer that I got from them was, ur career and monetary success would be from your education stream but again you can pursue your interest as chances in the future are there... A numerologist told me that destiny does take you the needed way. You find yourself to be a civil engineer coz ithe future indications show that your in-laws shall have a construction business. Initially this cracked me up like literally. But giving a second thought I realised it can be so. I don't know yet.

So what should I rely on? This or that? A loop is genested where you go on thinking. And since my problem is persisting even now I again consulted an astrologer friend of mine who told me that you find yourself indecisive now as the planet Jupiter tends to rotate a reverse path of few steps every now and then. Have patience, have hope and have positivity...

The reason that am sharing my experience is when you tend to delve deeper you tend to become faithless... You tend to overthibk. You tend to be dependent...

Horoscopes in general only give you possibilities not decisions. It is you who decide.. Even if your horoscope claim that you'll be a renowned surgeon but you decide to pursue arts and can also be more successful... This doesnt state that the prediction was wrong. It simply indicates the amount of importance you give it..

I have seen ppl 70% hard work and 30% horoscope and vice versa... Nthn is wrong.. Its just your way of seeing life...

And yes, I was a bit taken aback with the 36 guna Milan of siya ram. The general belief regarding 36 is it is not good to have such accuracy as both the numerals face opposite to each other and can turn out to be disastrous instead of fruitful. I loved Ram's POV on this... It depends on 2 ppl how they want things to work... There's this, bend a little if you wish that things should work... But nowadays the essence is lost... We love the blame game more, the victim can be the other person or even the horoscope...

Shruthi I loved your analysis of 36 guna Milan and its counter effect on siya ram's relation... Quite logical... 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Am giving a different perspective based on my Astrology knowledge.
Gun milan is done on Moon sign of boy & girl. Various aspects for comapatibality are considered. If all 36 Gun, means they are perfectly compatible. But their charts are to be considered for other important pts. eg.
Life span of both- if any one has ashorter life span, then how will they enjoy a longer married life?
Prosperity- If anyone of them doesnt have favourable chart for prosperity, it will reflect in their life, causing dissatisfaction.
Progeny- If one of them has infertilty yoga, then chances of unhappiness are more.
These are some of the pts, which also needs to be checked. They are not covered in Gun milan system.
About some marriages being successful inspite of less Guns then the min required 18. They have some other favourable aspects in their chart, which makes their married life happy.
So considering match making only on the bases of Gun, will give just half judgement.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank u so much for the info shruti really ennlightning as i do beilieve in horoscopes but faces always dilema and confusion...so yay but 36 guna info thxx bec in my community this horoscopes matching is not practiced but it ...i too heard about this 36 guna ,case for my grand father and grandmom..and what u said..that what exactly they used to say !!!
Thank u so much ...shruti.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12

Am giving a different perspective based on my Astrology knowledge.
Gun milan is done on Moon sign of boy & girl. Various aspects for comapatibality are considered. If all 36 Gun, means they are perfectly compatible. But their charts are to be considered for other important pts. eg.
Life span of both- if any one has ashorter life span, then how will they enjoy a longer married life?
Prosperity- If anyone of them doesnt have favourable chart for prosperity, it will reflect in their life, causing dissatisfaction.
Progeny- If one of them has infertilty yoga, then chances of unhappiness are more.
These are some of the pts, which also needs to be checked. They are not covered in Gun milan system.
About some marriages being successful inspite of less Guns then the min required 18. They have some other favourable aspects in their chart, which makes their married life happy.
So considering match making only on the bases of Gun, will give just half judgement.


Progeny is the most imp...

Even in the cases of love marriages I have seen ppl matching the horoscope to determine of shadashtak yog prevails or not...

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