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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: mnx12

Vrish, there was a time when the book version was followed upto certain extent. We all have grown up watching those shows. So it's difficult to adjust to a different perspective. The risk taken by PH is quite big. After watching Mahadev ke Ram, what will be shown here is clearly their interpretation of various events. They've retained Ram's bg from their past show, that was one of the best thing of Mahadev ke Ram's track.
This thread will be a hit, as Ramayan is read, heard by most of us, so people know what they are talking about.
At the same time there are viewers like me, who are open to a good perspective. Not that any different perspective can change the charm, beauty of the book version. But we like Ramayan so much that we are ready to give chance to any good attempt with an open mind just to understand some good hidden lessons.

yes there is distortion in story, that I dont like but I have made my children to watch the show to learn hidden lessons from the story.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

I have seen some Ramayan clips - mainly southern w/ subtitles - that have had Sita as Ravan's daughter, and some w/ Ravan @ Sita's swayamvara. That was before the 90s, when the trend of making up your own mythos started.

While Ravan @ Sita's swayamvara might be a part of some literature, it does defy logic in one big way. At Sita's swayamvara, all of her suitors got to see her - it's not like she was hidden someplace only to be revealed to the winner of the contest. In any swayamvara, the bride was the prize, and one got to see her first before participating.

So had Ravan been at that Swayamvara, he would have seen Sita and known how she looks. Her beauty wouldn't have been a surprise to him when Shurpanakha came to him w/ that suggestion. The epic - no matter whose version - clearly has it that when Ravan along w/ Mareech saw Sita, he was enchanted and decided to put his abduction plan into action. Sita's beauty totally possessed him and he did everything that he did.

But had he been at the swayamvara, he'd have seen Sita as well, and then the same reaction would have happened. He would have tried to capture her even if he failed to lift the bow. There is no logical reason why he should have exercised restraint out there: he could easily have defeated all the kings there, and he did not know about Rama's power, so there was no deterrent there, the way there was when he heard of Khar and Dushan getting killed, along w/ the entire rakshasha clan in Panchavati.

I understand different stories and different versions, and usually have no issues digesting them, although stories that look anachronistic don't play well w/ me. But even worse than anachronistic is when they defy logic. The stories about Ravan being @ Sita's swayamvara are clearly illogical, as they fail to address the above issue. That's my main problem w/ it.

But why wud Raja Janak invite a king (that also married) who belongs to Rakshasa dynasty, in the first place for swayamvar?
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Posted: 9 years ago
I am unhappy pained with showing events n things which didnt existed. I think they Kay fail to show positive things but unfortunate incidents like banishment of mata ji dis n dat will be shown in full flow. They will show feminist approach on it.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: crazygul

I am unhappy pained with showing events n things which didnt existed. I think they Kay fail to show positive things but unfortunate incidents like banishment of mata ji dis n dat will be shown in full flow. They will show feminist approach on it.

so what? there is an extreame need to show the feminist side of the epic.
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Posted: 9 years ago
ekam patnivratah was a rare case in the times of ram and krishna, and in balmiki ramayan ravan was not invited in the swayamvar.
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Posted: 9 years ago
As far as Uttar Kand goes, I don't care whether they take a feminist approach or not, but whatever approach they take, if they portray Ram as a villain and show Sita condemning Ram or speaking out against him, I will not tolerate that at all. I will voice my displeasure very vocally if that happens.

But there is still a looot of time for Uttar Kand. First let's see if they even get that far.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

so what? there is an extreame need to show the feminist side of the epic.

i can't digest if they show lord ram in negative light as villan . mata ji pain was unbearable was hurted beyond repair n it should be showed in depth. d track should show both sides.
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Posted: 9 years ago
A doubt here... In which version of the epic are these scholar women like Gargi and Sulabha appear?? AFAIK, they don't appear in Valmiki. Are they for real AT ALL? Coz, what I have read about them is from this woman, Kavita Kane's book..😆😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: crazygul

i can't digest if they show lord ram in negative light as villan . mata ji pain was unbearable was hurted beyond repair n it should be showed in depth. d track should show both sides.


They should show the pain of both in depth. Sita's pain is much easier to show, because her pain is described in every version out there. Not much creative liberty needs to be taken to show her pain, but Ram's pain is more subtle, because as a King he had to keep a brave front in front of his people, but inside he was no less in pain than Sita. His love was no less than hers, and since this show seems to be dwelling on emotional connectivity more than anything else, it can do a good job of showing Ram's pain well, unless they concentrate more on Sita and ignore Ram, which I suspect is what will happen.
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Posted: 9 years ago
So today's episode of SKR has Mareech as this tragic figure who's already a devotee of Ram but manipulated by little bro Subahu. 😆 I was highly entertained by the way the writers wrote this episode, fictional though it is. So first Mareech does the last rites of mother Tataka, and then he falls at Ram's feet to beg for forgiveness as Subahu looks on angrily. Later in their own dwelling, Subahu beats up his brother and scolds him for falling at the feet of their mom's killer. So Mareech then decides to attack Vishvamitra's ashram yet again while Ram and Lakshman are at working fixing it up.

For those of you who are interested in the actual story, this is how it happened in the epic. After leaving with Vishvamitra from Ayodhya, Ram and Lakshman first encounter Tataka's den, not in Vishvamitra's ashram, but in a forest near the banks of river Ganga. Vishvamitra explains Tataka's history to Ram and urges him to kill Tataka not only to put an end to her reign of terror, but also to free Tataka from her curse by Rishi Agastya. After Ram kills Tataka, her curse is broken and she once again becomes the beautiful yaksha princess she had been. She blesses Ram and thanks him for breaking her curse, and then she returns to her heavenly abode.

As for Mareech and Subahu, they were quite distant from their mother. They attacked sages' yagnas and destroyed them at the behest of Khar and Dushan, who terrorized the Dandakaranya and other jungles nearby. Khar and Dushan ruled over the asuras (at the behest of Ravan) and made sure no yagnas were completed by sages to attain divya astras. After killing Tataka, Ram and Lakshman travelled for a long time before reaching Vishvamitra's ashram. There, Vishvamitra once again began his yagna which had been interrupted many times before, while Ram and Lakshman guarded it vigilantly. As expected, Mareech and Subahu attacked them. Ram, wanting to give them a warning before killing them unnecessarily, used an astra to throw Mareech 1000s of miles away. Subahu, incensed by this, attacked with more fervor, compelling Ram to finally kill him.

This act of Ram in throwing Mareech miles away by a single arrow is what changed Mareech's mindset towards him. Mareech was just as bad as Subahu before, but after seeing Ram's prowess, he realized that Ram was no ordinary human being but an incarnation of God himself. Thus, Mareech began meditating on God and yearned to seek spiritual enlightenment, before Ravan disturbed his meditation and ordered him to take the form of a golden deer.

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