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Nishtha

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Posted: 9 years ago

#991

Originally posted by: jayvenk
Nishta I think this is a made up story. Could be some folk lore .
This is all added drama.

Thanks for responding ... I believe so as I looked everywhere nothing that I could found !!
They shouldn't have taken this much of Liberty .. It's fine until you show Laxman and Urmila's tit tat but entire story 🥱

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crazygul

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Posted: 9 years ago

#992

i read valmiki ramayan . sita mata mentions ek patni vrat.

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Panoramic

@Panoramic

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Posted: 9 years ago

#993

These days I just skip the parts of star ram sita... N starlakshman urmila...

Their scenes just don't make any sense to me... I can't watch them acting so immature...n giving lectures to everyone...that too in front of guru n elders s like vishwamitra...

First that meeting before swayamvar... Then starRama lecture on why he broke shiv dhanush

Of course regarding the language used, tone of voice, body language, the less said the better...

Coming to trio of urmila mandavi n shrutkirti showing the three of them bunched together doing nothing but giggling and exchanging glances. Seems like a scene from some Saas Bahu serial...

But I was really surprised watching yesterdays kaikeyi bharath scene ...

Liked it...

Actor looks so innocent n child like... N yesterdays his dialogues were so good...

Shatraghn n bharat r looking way more mature nd than starram n lakshman...

bharat shatrughn r displaying high Ethical Standards in this show wen compared to star lakshman n starrama...

"Ram bhaiya bhool se bhi bhool nahi kar sakte..."

"Maa main aapko hi chunuga, kyunki mere ram bhaiya ne mujhe yahi sikhaya hai..."

Just loved these two dialogues...

This how I want CVS to show...

Yes such scene is not there in any version but still his dialogues n his expression gave me feeling as if he is the bharat we all know...fictitious... but conveyed the sentiment perfectly...his respect n love for ram was so evident in that scene...

Bharat is the Only character I'm liking in this show...

But soon CVS will butcher his character as well😭

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Hobby.bliss

@Kanak-123

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Posted: 9 years ago

#994

Originally posted by: Panoramic
These days I just skip the parts of star ram sita... N starlakshman urmila...

Their scenes just don't make any sense to me... I can't watch them acting so immature...n giving lectures to everyone...that too in front of guru n elders s like vishwamitra...

First that meeting before swayamvar... Then starRama lecture on why he broke shiv dhanush

Of course regarding the language used, tone of voice, body language, the less said the better...

Coming to trio of urmila mandavi n shrutkirti showing the three of them bunched together doing nothing but giggling and exchanging glances. Seems like a scene from some Saas Bahu serial...

But I was really surprised watching yesterdays kaikeyi bharath scene ...
Liked it...

Actor looks so innocent n child like... N yesterdays his dialogues were so good...
Shatraghn n bharat r looking way more mature nd than starram n lakshman...

bharat shatrughn r displaying high Ethical Standards in this show wen compared to star lakshman n starrama...

"Ram bhaiya bhool se bhi bhool nahi kar sakte..."

"Maa main aapko hi chunuga, kyunki mere ram bhaiya ne mujhe yahi sikhaya hai..."
Just loved these two dialogues...

This how I want CVS to show...

Yes such scene is not there in any version but still his dialogues n his expression gave me feeling as if he is the bharat we all know...fictitious... but conveyed the sentiment perfectly...his respect n love for ram was so evident in that scene...

Bharat is the Only character I'm liking in this show...
But soon CVS will butcher his character as well😭

I too have same liking for this character...but i have a feeling that what theiy r showing currently are fillers somehow they added up as ppl want to c more of sita and ram love story and eye catching etc...

Also seems like cvs r not sticking to one book...they seem like divided parts between directors becoz ahodhya part is quiet bright clear with proper makeup and dialogues...when we see mithila it looks poorly handled and dialogue seems to be echoing also

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#995

@Adhishakti,

It's true that many puranas were told word of mouth, but not Valmiki Ramayana nor Vyasa's Mahabharata. Both of those were actually written down, even in that era. It's mentioned in the epic itself that Valmiki wrote down the story as Brahma narrated it. He wrote it in 23,000 shlokas with about 480,000 words total. It's the same with Mahabharata. While Vyasa narrated the story, Lord Ganesha wrote it down without any pause.

Back in those days, people were quite advanced beyond our understanding. They used various writing materials, including papyrus leaves, stones, wood, etc.

I think the original Valmiki Ramayana, written on the papyrus leaves, is indeed being safeguarded somewhere in India, in a museum. That's what I heard.

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naq5

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Posted: 9 years ago

#996

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

My only reasoning is... Ram was more close to perfect and godly (when i say godly I don't judge it by how many miracles each performed).. and Krishna was less. Krishna had many human traits and he had more flaws than Ram. I see God as perfect. God can never make a mistake. Ram matches to that image of God more for me.. than Krishna.
PS- No offence to anyone :P

I only wanted to know your views. nothing offensive in what u said😊

yes Ram was more ideal & more in control than Krishna. Maybe because they were dealing with different types of people & different situations. Also it could be regarding the purpose by which they took avataar.

yes but if you look at mistakes n decisions n all Ram's abandonment of sita(even though however much he was pained by it) is as debatable as some of Krishna's decisions in his life.

Edited by naq5 - 9 years ago

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#997

Even though this is not the thread for it, but since it seems appropriate for the discussion, I just want to point out that I don't view Lord Krishna's actions, particularly in Kurukshetra, as wrong.

Lord Krishna's incarnation was not to show humankind ideal behavior. That was for Lord Ram to teach. Krishna wanted to teach humankind how to deal with unrighteous people. Krishna's motto was always "tit for tat". Sometimes, you have to deal with unrighteous people the same way they dealt with you. We may make the argument that, but doesn't that make us no different, but we have to look at the intention behind the act. If sometimes unrighteous means are necessary in order to vanquish wrongdoers, and it's for the welfare of society, then yes unrighteous means are required.

People like to sympathize with characters like Karna and Duryodhan, because it's the trend of modern society to sympathize with the "negative characters", but we have to look at their actions also. Their actions are what brought about their unrighteous deaths.

Yes, the Kauravas did die in an unrighteous manner: Bhishma, Dronacharya, Karna, Duryodhana, etc, but each person who died did not live a righteous life. Perhaps we can take Bhishma off the list since his "death" was pre-planned by himself, but starting with Dronacharya, each of the Kauravas performed many unrighteous deeds in their life. So they were killed accordingly.

Lord Krishna was a big Karma Yogi. He treated someone the way they wanted to be treated. If someone considered himself to be his devotee, like Arjuna and the other Pandavas, he treated him with love and affection like God does to a devotee, but if someone considered him their enemy and behaved likewise, like Duryodhana who foolishly tried to imprison him during his peace treaty mission, he treated him like an enemy too.

Is it wrong for God to punish people for their deeds? Isn't that what God does?

Although Ram was very Godly in nature, his character was portrayed as a human, whereas Lord Krishna, though human in nature, never referred to himself as human. He always accepted that he was God, and his behavior and miracles were such as well.

Everyone knew he was God, even the Kauravas, and yet they let their thirst for power blind their senses.

Lord Krishna used every unrighteous means to destroy the wicked people on Earth, and the Pandavas were simply a medium. Even though Lord Krishna never picked up a weapon, there was no need for him to, because he drove the entire war through the Pandavas. They were his devotees, his servants, and they were simply a medium used by God to achieve the purpose of his incarnation.

Nothing God does can be deemed unrighteous. Sometimes, unrighteous means must be used to defeat unrighteous people.

Even today, we cannot deal with rapists, murderers, terrorists in a peaceful manner. We have to deal with them unrighteously if we want to eradicate evil in our society.

We need another Lord Krishna.

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 9 years ago

#998

Siya Ke Ram will actually get a Narad soon!

And here I thought this show was supposed to be non-devotional and purely humanistic. 😉😆

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Chiillii

@Chiillii

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Posted: 9 years ago

#999

Janaki I agree about Rishi Valmiki and Vyasa' ability write and their scientific knowledge in preserving their written original works today. But the originals are lost to us. Gita press and BORI are very specific about their sources. What we have today published is a compilation of transcripts of not older than 200 BC. They have published what is believed to be the closest version by the majority of the scholars but they themselves state this fact

That Vyasa composed 8800 verses as Jaya, which increased to 24000 verses as recited by Vaisyampayana and becomes 100000 verses recited by Ugrashrava Sauti is mentioned in the Mahabharata by Sauti himself in the Naimisharanya. And then there is Jaimini too.

What we have at homes today or online is not the original version it is the most commonly accepted version with distortions of people down the line who heard them and passed it on orally before somebody wrote it down, which are what has been used by Gita press and BORI and they themselves state it.

So there no originals and folktales with distortions. Only a popular version and several least popular ones. What we are calling as original is just the most popular but still a distorted version

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#1000

^^ Even though it may not be the most original version that the authors themselves wrote, it's still the oldest text we have available, isn't it? I mean, it's got to be more original than folklore and the more recent interpretations coming out today.

As for the actual story, we probably never will know what really happened back in that era, but in my opinion, the best we can do is go by the oldest scripts available to us.

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