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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 6 years ago

#61

how is kunal so sure? @anahi -- from a romantic point of view, the CVs have not written this very well. so rather than a romantic answer, I see a personal growth journey.

this family is ridiculously dysfunctional and based on how they are reacting to this entire situation, here's my conclusion. kunal used to be puppet where he had no decision making power. his job was to sit there, let himself get pampered. dida and radhika would make the decisions and mauli would implement. kunal had not much say and neither did anyone ask his opinion or input. basically he was just a puppet that had to dance to their whims.

more and more, it feels like his whole attraction to nandini is because he felt powerless and invisible in his own family. so why is he so sure? this kunal v2.0 is self-assured and assertive and does not back down from how he feels. even though he is aware he is wrong, he does not care and his first priority is himself, his wants and his life.

did he love mauli before? does he love nandini now? we will have to take everything at face value but the answer to your question on why kunal is so sure is that he feels confident in himself with nandini. hence, his choice is her.

now let me be clear so people don't misinterpret but I don't think that this is an issue where mauli alone did something for him to feel powerless. it is the entire family dynamic -- dida, radhika and mauli put together -- where he was the odd man out and had no say. so he is not just rejecting mauli but he is also rejecting dida and radhika as well. he is well aware that his actions and feelings for nandini will result in difficult situations but he has already processed that and is prepared for it.

in one way, he is having a kind of delayed teenager rebellion as an adult. so why is kunal so sure? he is sure because he feels visible.

P.S to folks -- if you disagree with me, thats really okay. no energy to argue. (heavy with real life stuff.) so lets just agree to disagree okay?

Edited by mango_pudding1 - 6 years ago

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Priya

@Priya_18

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Posted: 6 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: Anahi
i never understood this thing . never ever. no matter how hard i tried but there was no explanation for this..
how come kunal know that nandini is the one for him and not mauli??
how come he be so sure that mauli was a khubsurat padav but nandini is his manzil??
please keep in mind his lovey dovey dialogues with mauli before answering this question.. his promises , his claiming mauli is the one for him and he would fell in love with her even if he ever gets distracted.

when he was in love with mauli he said those things to her and now he loves nandini so he is telling all that to nandini that she is his oxygen..

dont give me "true love" theory. i personally feel love is love . true or false are not right adjectives for love. and i also feel man woman love is over rated.. in real world i would have never tried to understand kunal but since its a show i want to understand.
kunal is not mauli's boyfriend so that he can throw this "true love" thing at her and get rid off all this.. he is her husband. what about the sense of belonging to someone, promises made to her, a sense of being in a happy marriage and having an ideal good wife who is not only a wife but a lover and friend too..
in yesterday's episode kunal said "main tumse kie waade poore nhi kr paya .i am so sorry" i want to know kyu nhi kar paya?? what was the reason?? what is the definition of love for him?? how come he is so sure that the same promises he made to mauli that he failed to keep , he would be able to keep those with nandini..?
who told him all this ?? God?? his heart ? lol. dont tell me dil ne bta dia. no philosophy pls..

i wish kunal were a real person i would have asked him so many questions..
when i see mauli i understand why they say love is complicated.. she is being cheated yet she loves him because she had a history with him. the love for him can not vanish in one day.. when i see nandini i understand love is not always selfless, sometimes u have to be selfish for your happiness. kunal pampers her, claims to love her, can do anything for her so she is acting selfish and wants him for herself.
but what's up with kunal??
i never understood his falling out of love with mauli and falling in love with nandini. i know this is been discussed many times.
but last night's episode and kunal's acceptance of his love for nandini and telling mauli that he was his past added new things to this scenario.
i just want to ask people here.. can u understand his love??
lets assume he genuinely loves her..

Interesting post.

I had always wondered the same, What's up with Kunal? Nandini and Mauli are easy to understand but this guy never seemed to have any valid reason for ditching Mauli and running after Nandini. This was till I had a very awkward conversation with a man.

This is not my opinion and I don't support Kunal in any way but since you asked I'd like to mention what this man told me.

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The crux is Men don't like to settle. When they are with a woman, they do love them, just like Kunal loved Mauli. They even feel She is the one, may get wedded, make all sorts of promises. But then comes along a Nandini and they start itching to make a move. So when it comes to most Indian marriages, the marriage stays intact, due to children and family issues. But when you have an environment where divorces are not uncommon, men make that next move.

They start doing the same thing they once did with their girlfriend or wife with this new woman. Now wife becomes a friend but new woman becomes The One. And this new woman might face the same thing the wife faced but in the moment, they are, the one, to the man involved.

Since this is not an option to most men in India, they make fun of marriages and wives. In general, they want a free life, no wife or no girlfriend but they often don't realise that's issue.They are bored or tired it seems of the same person. Here, Kunal had the opportunity and he made a move, confessed to Nandini. He says yeh bhi sach hai woh bhi sach tha. He loved Mauli back then and loves Nandini now. He is indeed true to what he says but that's how he feels now. There might be Nandini V2 and he'll not hesitate to go say the same things that he once told Mauli and Nandini to this new one.

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Of course, this serial will not have Nandini V2 but this is the only reason I could find. Not to justify Kunal but to understand why he does what. I was in the same boat as yours before I heard this. They are simply justifying their tagline Jazzbat toh rif jazzbaat hotey hain..

Edited by Priya_18 - 6 years ago

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prettywomaniya

@prettywomaniya

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#63

@rimjhimsawan - exactly! kunal easily moved on from mauli who is his wife not gf or friend . cvs failed badly here, they forgot to understand that there is a difference between a single guy falling for a woman and a married person doing the same. and here we have kunal who was deeply in love with his wife.. his love for nandini is beyond my understanding..a blunder by cvs!!
remember kunal's dialogue "hum me na jane kab dooriyan aa gai jo kabho dikhai nhi di". when i heard that i was like of he is mad or what.. does he even know what he speaks.. he doesnt know why he dumped mauli.. sick guy !!

@pamk @MB @ fruity - i agree with @pam where she said kunal and nandini should be portrayed in way that they are hated but understood.. sadly this the problem. cvs failed to make people understand how and why kunal fell in love again..

@MB - regarding white washing of nandini or even kunal, i think @rimjhim and @fruity have answers to this but i would like to add few points. see, both kunal and nandini are not supposed to be out and out evil but creatives couldnt just let them behave grey. whenever nandini kunal is bashed/judged by society or mauli or anyone, it was balanced out by kunal or God. the ema was shown in a good light. do u remember that sindoor thing when K and N had sex.. all those hints to make people feel like whatever KN are doing is destiny and thus in a way they kept whitewshing ema thing and in the recent episodes they are trying to make nandini mahan . she gave a pinky promise to M and thought to leave kunal. like really.. promise or no promise she should have never accepted K's proposal in first place , since she has accepted so now she should stand by kunal..

kunal is completely changed after confrontation. so we have an old kunal and a new kunal.. but nandini keeps on changing colors in every two days.. this is whitewashing of characters. let them behave grey if they are.. grey characters never proclaim that they are good. let them do what they want and let people decide if they are good or bad or grey.. cvs want sympathy/understanding for KN which is not possible now..

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prettywomaniya

@prettywomaniya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#64

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@priya - ohhhits a damn nice theory! agree to what u said.. in general man dont like to settle down in a family.
they want freedom, less responsibilities and fun in life.. half of the time they dont even realise the depth of their promises and words.. people here have given wonderful theories on " what could be the reason for kunal's moving on" but trust me cvs have used none..
neither they showed him an irresponsible person, nor a flip nor a despo nor even a dhukhi pati.. and suddenly he fell for wife's bf..
people here are far better than so called writers. at least they attempt to create a reason for a spouse's moving on. but cvs didnt explore kunal and made him a hypocrite which they never intended to..

@mango- mango its a very good answer. but again this angle is not even touched.. we all think that mauli is stronger than him and nandini is clearly weaker so that may be the case. cvs gave two three hints about this when mauli mocked him for his nakhras in the confrontation episode.. and when his friends wife taunted him for falling for a weak lady.. but i feel so bad about it. this could be one good plot but cvs didnt use this.. and i am sure if they ever try this to explain kunal then they will just show mauli as a dominating wife or nandini a weak woman.. to explain one they will belittle the other two..

your "ps" part is funny.. even i feel drained out sometimes and going in circles..

@charu - thnx charu.
exactly my point.. he didnt mean to hurt her then why he gave up on fighting with his feelings.. he shouldnt have stooped so low. he is not disregarding mauli as a wife but a person too. he is behaving as if he doesnt even care about her.. his dialogues are crap... "han nahi krta main tumse pyaar , main nandini se pyaar karta hun"
kal mauli aaj nandini kal fir se mauli.. this person is very irresponsible and immature.. he takes relations for granted..

Edited by Anahi - 6 years ago

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#65

@pamk06 thisis the most plausible and valid explanation for his behaviour . That "he had a wonderful option in nandini" . Nandini was the singlemost vulnerable available woman to him .

Like if we assume that he fell in love with a married woman with kids and husband. It will get complicated right . If no kids are involved , less complications . A divorcee and single with no family behind her ? The best option ..nandini readily accepted his proposal , he got a new home and a new woman to sleep with . Deep down men like kunal want to have fun .no matter if its wrong morally. They will go to any lengths to justify themselves in the name of love.

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amortentia15

@amortentia15

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1
how is kunal so sure? @anahi -- from a romantic point of view, the CVs have not written this very well. so rather than a romantic answer, I see a personal growth journey.

this family is ridiculously dysfunctional and based on how they are reacting to this entire situation, here's my conclusion. kunal used to be puppet where he had no decision making power. his job was to sit there, let himself get pampered. dida and radhika would make the decisions and mauli would implement. kunal had not much say and neither did anyone ask his opinion or input. basically he was just a puppet that had to dance to their whims.

more and more, it feels like his whole attraction to nandini is because he felt powerless and invisible in his own family. so why is he so sure? this kunal v2.0 is self-assured and assertive and does not back down from how he feels. even though he is aware he is wrong, he does not care and his first priority is himself, his wants and his life.

did he love mauli before? does he love nandini now? we will have to take everything at face value but the answer to your question on why kunal is so sure is that he feels confident in himself with nandini. hence, his choice is her.

now let me be clear so people don't misinterpret but I don't think that this is an issue where mauli alone did something for him to feel powerless. it is the entire family dynamic -- dida, radhika and mauli put together -- where he was the odd man out and had no say. so he is not just rejecting mauli but he is also rejecting dida and radhika as well. he is well aware that his actions and feelings for nandini will result in difficult situations but he has already processed that and is prepared for it.

in one way, he is having a kind of delayed teenager rebellion as an adult. so why is kunal so sure? he is sure because he feels visible.

P.S to folks -- if you disagree with me, thats really okay. no energy to argue. (heavy with real life stuff.) so lets just agree to disagree okay?

Your P.S 😆 true...it is sometimes extremely exhausting to debate on such topics...

I think youve made a very valid point... And trust me i would have been glad if they showed Kunaal feel inconsequential in his own home and in his marriage hence the trangression... But cvs did reiterate time and again that there was no glitch in his marriage and that the story is about how a man falls in love with a woman despite having a happy marriage(i feel it was terribly faulty of the cvs to go on saying that, made kunaal all the more a complete nincompoop)... So based on what they have shown there is no clear indication of mauli being bossy or sidelining kunaal's wishes to the extent that he started feeling left out and looked for an alternative...he himself said he was confused as in he did not know what went wrong in his relationship, must have been something was what he said which should have made alarm bells ringing loud and clear in Nandini's head... But she was as usual in her trancelike state even after hearing that, not once thinking what he had said...

Dida and Radhika spoonfeeding him would not compel him to actually start falling in love with another woman, if anything he basked in the warmth and love they had for him... And when he left his job he knew Mauli would be the sole earning member for sometime... So even if she did double shifts for reasons other than propelling his philanthropic cause it makes him a very diabolical person to have even harboured the feeling of irrational annoyance for Mauli not giving him enough time... everything the cvs have shown have only cemented the fact that he is a very shallow man with no moral integrity... And it intensified after he fell for Nandini...

I am actually as confused as Kunaal is regarding why he fell out of love with Mauli... And I am unwilling to give him the benefit of the doubt that he fell for nandini because the women in his house wore the pants in his relationship with each of them simply because the cvs have not indicated anything of that sort... By that logic he should fall for someone else too because even with Nandini she took the decision of a major thing as bad as breakup without taking him into consideration when he is one of the persons in the relationship... But he went ahead and pinned all the blame on mauli... So every thing he does is motivated and stems from his own personal whims and wishes...

Phew that was long... Sorry!! 😊

P.S. i am not trying to negate what you are saying... Just trying to make sense of whether the cvs had intention of even showing kunaal feeling inadequate in his own home...

Edited by amortentia15 - 6 years ago

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amortentia15

@amortentia15

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#67

@TM... Yes even I am baffled by how Kunaal is so sure she is the deatination and not the next stop...😆

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

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Posted: 6 years ago

#68

@amortentia15 -- this drama is super weird; am not sure why we are all watching when nothing is coherent! or debating so much either! hahahahha... guess because it is so murky? 😆

so my theory of him being a puppet is based on the current family dynamic. forget kunal and nandini, those two characters are selfish and so I don't bother to wrack my brains. but I am extremely puzzled and ticked off by dida and radhika's behaviour. I kept waiting for them to give him a blasting or at least ask him why he did this but not a single word. instead, they wanted to bury their head in the sand and celebrate festivals. it is ridiculously bizarre. not even close to a normal family dynamic.

initially, though this was a typical case of women favoring their sons but even that did not hold water. so finally came to the conclusion that they don't have any respect for him. they just see him as a puppet they can control, ask him for no input because they think they can control. how bizarre was it that they kept asking mauli to reconsider when kunal had not indicated in any form that he wanted to reconcile. it made no sense. they actually don't see him as a man or a person with feelings or brains.

so based on their very strange behaviour, this wearing the pants in the relationship is the theory that makes sense to me right now. if we see it from that angle, his relationship with nandini makes sense. he feels powerful with her. would agree with you that they haven't shown anything before but this drama has huge holes like the roads after the monsoons. so we can't expect much. also, they seem to keep changing depending on the viewers backlash. so who knows what their original intent was...

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prettywomaniya

@prettywomaniya

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: amortentia15
@TM... Yes even I am baffled by how Kunaal is so sure she is the deatination and not the next stop... 😆

hey. u voiced my thoughts ...

u actually managed to write a long post. 😆

thnx for this post.. much appreciated..

and kunal is a very dangerous man! he is so unpredictable and one can not rely on him for anything.. in earlier episodes he was husband goals and now i am so scared to imagine a husband like him..

ps: are u the one who was writing a ff on mauli which had an extra charming witty guy with no face???

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amortentia15

@amortentia15

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#70

@mango_pudding... You are absolutely right! 😆 weird drama with weird characters...

There's just so much discrepancies everywhere...

Dida and Radhika ( i dont know why i kept on thinking she is Yamini for the longest time 😆)... Even my writeup has her named Yamini...lol...they are a super annoying jodi...

All they are thinking about is tethering Kunaal and Mauli by hook or by crook for their own weird reasons... Phew... I had no hopes from dida ever but Radhika disappointed me big time...😕

The show could have been so much but a bunch of incompetent writers messed up the plot big time...

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