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Fatima

@Rhimjhimsawan

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Posted: 6 years ago

#51

They could've done a great job with Nandini's character. Seriously. Like even for Indian tv standard she is poorly written. It's not about what she has done, it's about they executed them. If Nandini is selfish that is fine. Just explore that!!! Go deeper into how she is forgetting her friendship. Don't act like she has forgotten who mauli is for two whole weeks and then suddenly remembers how much she loves Mauli.

As for the topic, this is what I am stuck on too. I am speaking from personal experience here, once you fall out of love with someone despite relationship problems you need to look deeper into YOURSELF not the relationship. If you could move on from one loved person so easily you need to wonder what is the guarantee you won't do it again. Kunal is such a moron.

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: FruitToasty
In Balika Vadhu, Jagya was redeemed because it was shown from the beginning that whatever he is doing is wrong, his falling for another woman made more sense considering he was victim of child marriage like Anandi. But Anandi was the protagonist, Jagya doesn't matter later his existence didn't matter because Anandi got Shiv, who was played by a big name in the industry and he became the lead. But it can not be done with Silsila, here Kunal can't say he doesn't love Nandini or even ponder over the fact that he might be wrong because the biggest name and supposedly the female lead is Nandini played by DD. If they get a new lead for Mauli, who would care about KuNan love? At the end of the day the power of an actress or actor is limited to the PH, audience connects with the character not the actor. I can say I am liking her performance but do I like Nandini? Hell no..
Jagya repented and Anandi got justice because Anandi was the female lead and Jagya wasn't a big name, so he was sidelined so Gajra scored a point with Balika Vadhu. But here she can't show EMA as what it is ie wrong because the people who are doing EMA are the lead and on indian television, leads are not grey or negative.
This is one of the reasons why I was so shocked seeing Jennifer Winget play Maya, she could have easily forced her character's redemption but she did not, in the end Maya was turned negative and the show ended with it, suffice to say she gained a lot by playing Maya, and now Heena Khan is playing Komolika. You see Komolika as a character is somewhat similar to Nandini, but i was surprised to see reaction of audience towards her entry, her introduction video was trending on YouTube and she is being praised, so I guess coming out of the shell is actually rewarding for actresses and Arjun Bijlani is also being praised for his role as a grey/black character in IMMJ

@fruittoasty: Maya was promoted as a negative character and Maya was always suppose to be negative. Jennifer took that character knowing it was suppose to be negative from start to finish. Sanz and Arjun were always the end game there. Similarly Komolika is a negative character. I do not know if you followed the original KZK but Komolika at that time had created a big buzz. People still remember her because in-spite of being negative (and she is total negative) she matched Anurag and Prerna, so much so that people still applaud her. She was the first one who was termed as the best negative characters whom people love to hate and the actress at that time did full justice to it. Komolika was very famous at that time and hence the huge interest in her now. The other character who would create a buzz is Mr Bajaj. He started as negative but he was a grey character. When he entered, people hated him because of what he made Prerna do but the character was written so well that eventually people accepted him and even rooted for him but they kept him gray through out the series. His love for Prerna surpassed everything for him and he kept Prerna with him knowing very well she did not love him.

Nandini and Kunal were not supposed to be negative nor positive. They needed work and concentration to click with the users. Their love was suppose to be showcased in a way that the TM question would not have arised. Everybody should have believed in their love even if we all agreed that it was wrong. They should have been people we hated but understood. This was the challenge and the writer failed here miserably. As they rushed that whole connection part, everyone is now questioning their whole relationship.

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priya

@JugniPH

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Posted: 6 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: Feynmann
I think love never happens between two people under same profession(ofc there are exceptions).bt in most of the cases if you want to marry someone choose someone from other profession.
In some other posts people we're saying that he left a doctor wife,who is up to his status ND fell in love with a homemaker.in yesterday's epi also mauli was saying we both r doctors we wl make everything okk.sorry bt I find it really funny.you want to marry someone because of status?then this is not love.you may think it is love bt it's not.if u HV to marry seeing his profession then dear don't proclaim love.
Read a quote ND posted too that if you fall in love for the second time then choose it because if you had ever loved the first one fully you wouldn't have fallen for second time.

sorry to say. i strongly disagree with your first sentence. i can give 1000s of couple who are in love and are from same profession. infact people from same profession fall in love as their taste matches along with profession. plus they spend time together if they work at same place or study at same clg. and even in arranged marriage most people prefer to marry from same profession. especially IT field professionals and doctors.

i'm from kerala and in my college where a total of 150 staffs are working, there is 23 couples out of which 18 couples are teachers and 5 couples are among office staff/lab staffs. 2 couple got retired last year. and its fun and a lovely feeling to be around them..esp one young couple having 4 year old kid.. they are my personal fav. they joined in clg 7 years back and got married 6 years back. they are too cute

not only in clg..my best friend faz belong to a doctor only family. her parents, uncle aunt, and 6 cousins are doctors. only faz took engineering becz she loves physics. out of 6 cousins , 4 are happly married to doctors and 1 cousin married lawyer who is her childhood lover. and the one remaining is going to get engaged next month with a young doc who is her batchmate.

and leave all my personal experience, if you look at any matrimony website or paper adds, you can see people prefer to marry from same profession... and the reason is simple..the partner can perfectly understand the problems, responsibility and pressure in profession if they belong to same profession. especially doctors.. their profession demands a portion of personal life too.sometimes they have to sacrifice their family time/personal need s to save lives. and only another doctor/medical professional can understand it 100%.

now kunal and mauli's love story started from clg. they fall in love in clg, finished studies and started working and with blessing of family they married and lived happly till nandini entered.

@bold.. its not about status. she meant about education and maturity to sort out things which doctors supposed to have. to never give up patients even if they ahve 1% chance to survive. doctors works on that 1% chance and with god's blessing and sciences powers they make it to 100%. she thought kunal regrets EMA and want to restart. so malui meant to work on this relationship, treat it and heal the wounds. by the way dnt we ask our friends to behave like educated one when they throw unnecessary tantrums? its just that way nt status

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: Rhimjhimsawan
They could've done a great job with Nandini's character. Seriously. Like even for Indian tv standard she is poorly written. It's not about what she has done, it's about they executed them. If Nandini is selfish that is fine. Just explore that!!! Go deeper into how she is forgetting her friendship. Don't act like she has forgotten who mauli is for two whole weeks and then suddenly remembers how much she loves Mauli.
As for the topic, this is what I am stuck on too. I am speaking from personal experience here, once you fall out of love with someone despite relationship problems you need to look deeper into YOURSELF not the relationship. If you could move on from one loved person so easily you need to wonder what is the guarantee you won't do it again. Kunal is such a moron.

@bold: Exactly they should have shown him thinking about why he is getting attracted to Nandini, why he is suddenly having this feelings for a person who is exactly opposite of his wife. What is missing in him and his relationship for him to walk that path. Some kind of self talk, some introspection ,some scenes where he was really trying very hard to reconnect with Mauli, some flashback scenes where their thinking did not match and he compromised, his POV of their marriage, some scenes where he was really trying very hard to get back his footing in their marriage. The just showed him suppressing or ignoring his feelings and that too at such high speed that no one connected or even realized whats going on.

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Fatima

@Rhimjhimsawan

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Posted: 6 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: pamk06

Nandini and Kunal were not supposed to be negative nor positive. They needed work and concentration to click with the users. Their love was suppose to be showcased in a way that the TM question would not have arised. Everybody should have believed in their love even if we all agreed that it was wrong. They should have been people we hated but understood. This was the challenge and the writer failed here miserably. As they rushed that whole connection part, everyone is now questioning their whole relationship.

Agree agree agree! Even if people did not agree with Kunal Nandini or root for them they should've been able to grasp their relationship and see their point of view. I hate bringing a masterpiece like Game of thrones into the discussion but that is the best example that is coming to my head at the moment. I am hoping most of you watch the show. Jaime and Cersei are siblings in love and people absolutely despise their couple, but no viewer questions why they are in love or how they are in love. So even when Jaime meets a better woman who he has feelings for, Brienne, and viewers want Jaime to dump Cersei for Brienne, they understand what is holding Jaime back to Cersei. They might want to pull their hair out but they understand! No one here understands why Nandini and Kunal are together. No one in their world understand it, no one in our world understands it. The only way this type of execution is acceptable is if this is not love, but momentary lust. But even then think of Raaz, think of Zeher. Lust involves this unexplainable passion that makes characters blind. Here everything is missing just unexplainable exists.

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Fatima

@Rhimjhimsawan

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Posted: 6 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: pamk06

@bold: Exactly they should have shown him thinking about why he is getting attracted to Nandini, why he is suddenly having this feelings for a person who is exactly opposite of his wife. What is missing in him and his relationship for him to walk that path. Some kind of self talk, some introspection ,some scenes where he was really trying very hard to reconnect with Mauli, some flashback scenes where their thinking did not match and he compromised, his POV of their marriage, some scenes where he was really trying very hard to get back his footing in their marriage. The just showed him suppressing or ignoring his feelings and that too at such high speed that no one connected or even realized whats going on.

I don't watch the show religiously so maybe there were more scenes like this but there were two scenes. One where Kunal is telling Mauli if he gets lost to find him (stupid boy she tried to find you, you kept running the other way). Second was when he kisses a sleeping Mauli and wonders how can he feel something for Nandini when he loves Mauli so much. Maybe there were more.

The thing is you can't just ask yourself these questions once or twice and then not look for the answers. You need to sit there and wonder what exactly is wrong and have some self realizations...I guess for Kunal the answer was ehh I love Nandini, God wants me to love Nandini. That is such crap. He never went over what he found lacking in his relationship with his wife. Even now he is like "something must've been wrong." You stupid dumbo! If you don't know what was wrong the first time then how will you look out for it the next time?

I am speaking from personal experience that sometimes happy relationships are not as happy as we think they are. But we need to see why Kunal finally realizes Mauli thing won't work out and Nandini will. From Nandini's side while we are annoyed that she chose to have an affair with her best friend's husband, at least we understand why she is in love with Kunal and thinks he is it.

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: Rhimjhimsawan

Agree agree agree! Even if people did not agree with Kunal Nandini or root for them they should've been able to grasp their relationship and see their point of view. I hate bringing a masterpiece like Game of thrones into the discussion but that is the best example that is coming to my head at the moment. I am hoping most of you watch the show. Jaime and Cersei are siblings in love and people absolutely despise their couple, but no viewer questions why they are in love or how they are in love. So even when Jaime meets a better woman who he has feelings for, Brienne, and viewers want Jaime to dump Cersei for Brienne, they understand what is holding Jaime back to Cersei. They might want to pull their hair out but they understand! No one here understands why Nandini and Kunal are together. No one in their world understand it, no one in our world understands it. The only way this type of execution is acceptable is if this is not love, but momentary lust. But even then think of Raaz, think of Zeher. Lust involves this unexplainable passion that makes characters blind. Here everything is missing just unexplainable exists.

Exactly, GoT is the best example here. @bold: After the CV's pushed the divine love down our throat, I can at least give love a benefit of doubt but lust no ways. ITV has very specific way of showing it and they have not done that at all with them. Even consummation was because of the aftermath of abuse, not because of unbridling passion between them. So, yes, everything is unexplainable here.

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prettywomaniya

@prettywomaniya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: elim
Probably He never felt same for Mauli like He feels for Nandini now .
He always admired Mauli and married a good person but never really loved her

he didnt accept that also. rather he said wo sb sach tha..

when mauli was tearing up their pictures he said things like that.

so he was very much in love with her..

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prettywomaniya

@prettywomaniya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#59

i think my original topic is lost ..

but it feels nice to see people discussing things in a decent way.

thanx for ur input guys.

will try to reply back if u have quoted me or had answered my question.

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Charu

@Krinya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#60

Beautiful post . 👏 i was flabbergasted by kunals dialogues in the last 2 episodes . She is not your bloody gf or keep that you say i have found new love , now i dont love you anymore. The worst part is , he is mouthing shit like we love you, we both love you , we never wanted to hurt you. Till today he has been only telling what they did NOT INTEND TO do but never told us what they intended to !

I always believed that kunal is a bs guy , he mouthed the same true love dialogues with mauli also and there is no guarantee that he will not flip again . Gawd he was trying the same flowers cake tricks which his friends said were kunal types...How can he say that nandininis his true love ? Is there any limit to their neechpan? I mean nandini should think that if he can call his old true love as padav , he may feel the same for nandini in future...I just hope and pray that he marries his divine love ...the desire to get something is active only till the time you get it . Kitni baatein kar lega vada pav ki? All said and done these 2 losers deserve each other totally .

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