how kunal is so sure?? - Page 9

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

@mockingbird
Gajra has failed, there are no two ways about it. It's a fact that she rushed with KuNan relationship and there was no bonding, we have contemplated hard on this and every time we said that we don't have a reason to support Nandini, I remember we were shot down by DD fans, the criticism is an important part and that's why we have this forum, but every time we spoke we were labeled and the result is that Shakti and writers thought people are happy and rooting for KuNan (If you remember his interview, he had said that his fans are rooting for them and stuff), most of us weren't very active back then so they thought TRP will come with KuNan relationship, but it didn't happen, Nandini's dialogues don't make sense because she is being whitewashed, if you break my home and tell me that you did not want to hurt me, would that make sense? Of course not.

Don't confuse audience's reaction with what's being shown in each episode, Nandini's dialogues are like Zoya's dialogues in Bepanah these days. You see Zoya is making mistakes but she keeps saying that she didn't mean to hurt anyone and with Zoya, we believe because she is being blackmailed but with Nandini the dialogues are of positive character like Zoya but her actions are not that of a positive character. You don't sleep with your bf's husband and say that you did not want to hurt her, her dialogues should suit her character and her actions. How can Nandini, a woman who slept with her bf's husband be positive? She is sacrificing her love like Gopi bahu, do tell how will audience react to this stupidity? And if it's not whitewashing then what is?

Just think that there are 4 actors in this show, Abhinav is playing out and out negative character, he is playing a rapist and a murderer but why isn't he getting hate messages? Shakti's character is not that good, Kunal has taken the whole guilt of EMA but why isn't he getting hate messages? It's only DD, who's bearing the brunt of Writer's stupidity and its easy to shrug it saying that she's being hated because she is a woman, then how come Jennifer was praised for playing a negative character by neutral audience and just look at the response Heena is getting for playing Komolika. Do you think the reaction to Abhinav would have been same if rape or domestic violence was glorified? Many would have thrashed him for agreeing to play a character which is glorifying rape. I am not saying whatever is happening is correct, I am just presenting my view as to what is happening and why?
One more example of this is Anita Hasnandani, in first few years when she played negative role, she was praised but later when it became obvious that she is being whitewashed, you can see what she had to go through, she got death threats and what not, social media is turning into a venom and fans are overactive and aggravated.

About Mauli, from first promo it was clear that Kunal loves his wife and Nandini didn't wanna break her bf's home, if Mauli was negative that wouldn't have been possible, Mauli was supposed to be a positive character but what we did not expected was such a strong character, now people who was the show love Mauli. You may think Mauli's dialogues are strong and good because people's reaction to them is always positive and that's because they love her but that's not what happening in show, for example -
Someone posted the clip of Mauli saying - Nandini ko kahti ki chullu bhar pani me doob maro.
You can check and see that fans loved it but that's not is being shown because to this dialogue Kunal's reaction was - Use kyo baddua de rahi ho, Kyonki wo aurat hai.

And apart of from DD fans, everyone got angry as he says this to Mauli, because what right a man who's manhandling his wife has to talk about women?

What is being shown -
Nandini organizing Mauli's birthday party
Nandini buying her favorite gift for Mauli
Nandini's dua saving Mauli
Dida saying the baby is because of someone's (Nandini's) dua
Nandini leaving Kunal and saying that she sacrificed her love for Mauli
Kunal telling Mauli how good Nandini is to arrange her birthday party and how much Nandini loves her
Kunal calling Mauli sexist and regressive for taunting Nandini to say that EMA wasn't her fault, it was completely Kunal's fault.
Nandini leaving city and biggest sympathy card Rajdeep's entry
Nandini agreeing to marry Rajdeep to save Mauli and her baby.

That's whitewashing but reaction of audience is opposite of what writer is expecting, they want people to love and sympathize with Nandini but they won't, it's as simple as that and it is also clear that DD won't play a grey or negative character so whitewashing is in the process.

Kunal is a 12 year old obsessed kid who has a new obsession. And he swears by it.

Originally posted by: amortentia15

@pamk6... Hii! I couldn't quote because somehow its showing a blank from my phone and captcha is anyway making all of us mad here😆

I have to politely disagree with you on the points you mentioned that could be the tenable reasons for the crack in their marriage...

Regarding no one paying any attention to kunaal's supposed despair i doubt, if this happens in a household where a person like mauli is cheated upon and her feelings trampled in the worst way possible anyone will even care to take into consideration the cheat's feelings and perspectives... I have seen a father disown his son and treat his daughter in law as his own daughter after an EMA was exposed... he was driven out of the house...i guess this is where even the cvs are failing... I dont know what all they write in the name of juzzbaat and love and romance but none of it is a realistic representation of events no matter what they say...

I have my grudge against Radhika because i expected better of her... I wanted her to support Mauli after the divorce but again the tracks went downhill after that... Also even MAULI was watered down to some extent...

The subtle things you've mentioned are very innocuos occurences in a normal family and they do not explain the shift in Kunaal's feelings and neither does it explain why he got attracted towards Nandini...thats my reading of the happenings in the show... If we see , Mauli despite being very busy was the one who took care of the things whether it was packing his bags or finding his watch... "The whole Jaana" dialogue was a common banter between a husband and a wife and does not explain Kunaal being somewhat stifled for it...we all do it at some point...assert our rights, try to put forth our points in the way that Mauli did... if that makes my husband fall for another person then the marriage was doomed from the start as was in the case of the Maunal marriage... A marriage is a lot more than these trivial fallouts... That is not a plausible reason for Kunaal to suddenly fall out of love with her... Which is why he and the cvs are confused as to why he fell out of love...because these reasons are very insignificant.

I think as a lot of people have said its just the macho saviour factor and the attraction that is the basis of this ema...not a profound emotional connect which is why the characters and the cvs arfavicing brickbats... I was completely fine with that if they called a spade a spade... But they injected some pretty big dialogues...of roohani aarzoo and all and that was grating to say the least... For all purposes they had a one night stand...

As for Kunaal i just cannot bring myself upto feeling anything for him... Because he comes across as a selfish, shallow human being... But that's totally my views on him...😊

Sorry dear, if it came out as if I was justifying the EMA or pointing out the flaws in the marriage. No, I am as baffled as anyone on why Kunal thought that there was a gap in the marriage. I was just pointing out the fact that Mauli did have an upper hand in their marriage. But Kunal was married to her for 7 years so if he had an issue with it, than they should have shown it explicity rather than giving subtle hints.

I do think and believe that his attraction to Nandini or his feelings are due to the damsel in distress and his savior instinct especially as he is surrounded by strong woman and Nandini must have come across as an enigma for him. I also understand that it can happen and sometimes it has nothing to do with the current relationship or in this case his relationship with Mauli. They can be mutually exclusive. At this time, the step should be to retrospect and understand what is missing in your current relationship for you to feel the attraction and work on it. Not suppress or ignore them and finally give in to them. Hence I would have preferred him admitting that his feelings were the reason for the gap in that relationship rather than saying that there must be some gap in his marriage. Even then that should not have been the reason for EMA. EMA is a choice and Kunal choose to do it and no amount of justification can refute that fact.



Let us just agree to disagree on his mother/ family's reaction or lack of action where Kunal is concerned. I do feel that she is an amazing MIL but I have big issues on her behavior as a mother.

Originally posted by: pamk06

Sorry dear, if it came out as if I was justifying the EMA or pointing out the flaws in the marriage. No, I am as baffled as anyone on why Kunal thought that there was a gap in the marriage. I was just pointing out the fact that Mauli did have an upper hand in their marriage. But Kunal was married to her for 7 years so if he had an issue with it, than they should have shown it explicity rather than giving subtle hints.

I do think and believe that his attraction to Nandini or his feelings are due to the damsel in distress and his savior instinct especially as he is surrounded by strong woman and Nandini must have come across as an enigma for him. I also understand that it can happen and sometimes it has nothing to do with the current relationship or in this case his relationship with Mauli. They can be mutually exclusive. At this time, the step should be to retrospect and understand what is missing in your current relationship for you to feel the attraction and work on it. Not suppress or ignore them and finally give in to them. Hence I would have preferred him admitting that his feelings were the reason for the gap in that relationship rather than saying that there must be some gap in his marriage. Even then that should not have been the reason for EMA. EMA is a choice and Kunal choose to do it and no amount of justification can refute that fact.



Let us just agree to disagree on his mother/ family's reaction or lack of action where Kunal is concerned. I do feel that she is an amazing MIL but I have big issues on her behavior as a mother.

We are Not watching this show - switching channels ...just came across the scene where kunal blames mauli for misbehaving with nandini...