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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: g.sreedurga

I'm sorry but I had to reply for this though I don't usually make posts in this forum. You're drawing parallels between Nandini and a 5 year old?!!

Firstly, you go to any 5 year old and say some fictional story to make them sleep. They'll believe it and sleep to save themselves from rakshas. Why? Because they don't know people lie. They don't know cheaters exist. They believe in everything they see/listen, especially if it's their mom who's saying. They're as pure as gems. Even if they lie, their mom would know it in their eyes. And now Nandini ma'am acts in such a way, pretends in such a way that anyone including Mauli would never even have an ounce of doubt on her. You say she's like a kid?

Second, Nandini thought Mauli has too many toys and wouldn't mind taking one away from her? Really? What are her toys? Isn't a successful professional life one of them? Didn't she earn it all on her own? If Nandini wanted that, why couldn't she go that way and earn professional success? And she thinks Kunal is 'one' of the toys Mauli has? As if Mauli is sleeping around with men like her husband! Mauli clearly told Nandini that Kunal is her 'life'!!! Nandini is very much aware of the degree of his importance and need in Mauli's life and he's just not another 'good thing' in her life but much more than that!! As you said, kids don't know about ownership or morality. But Nandini knows them and also their repercussions, it's just that she 'choose' to ignore them for her so called jazbaat. And you say she's a kid?

Third, let some 5 yr old niece of you who loves you snatch something from you or break it. Then you make a sad and upset face. You see how that kid will be upset for the whole day trying to apologize to you or trying to be good with you. They can't see their loved ones in pain. To an extent that if father shouts on mother and mother cries, they'll be very upset with their father. They needn't even know the reason. Such is their love. And this woman, who clearly experienced how it feels to have an infedile husband, is doing the same to someone whom she claims to love a lot. Someone because of whom she is what she's today. That too with no ounce of guilt. And you say she's a kid?

Fourth, don't even get me on kid's loyalty. They are those constants who you needn't doubt ever. They take their friendships, their cuts so seriously and be honest to it. Imagine a Kindergarten where a boy constantly hits another boy. Meanwhile some other boy comes into picture and saves him. If this happens twice or thrice, the saved kid will be so loyal to his friendship towards one who defended him. To an extent that he'd get into brawl with anyone in future to defend him. Why do you think childhood friendships are so strong many times? And here this woman doesn't know what friendship is or what loyalty is. And you are saying she's like a kid?

There's a difference between being childish and being selfish. There's a difference between committing a mistake and committing a sin. There's a difference between being innocent and being negligent. There's a difference between being careless and being characterless. If she gets jealous of Mauli and impulsively shout on her or pray for her failure, it's immaturity. If she gets jealous of Mauli and jumps on to bed with her husband, it's infedility. There's a fine line. What she's doing is disgusting and the characterization is puke worthy. It's faaar from childish. And what she's doing is 'Adultery'. No parallels between the impurest being and the purest souls on the face of this planet.

I agree with your last two paragraphs. On point. No offense about my other points please. I don't know if you're even supporter of KuNan or not but somehow couldn't agree on the point that Nandini is like a child. So replied to that. Hope you don't take it as on offense.

Hey I don't take offence easily. You just shared your views. Btw guess you are new to the forum. I hate nandini and can't stand her. Have already had run ins with fanatics due to this 😊 yes you do have valid points. By drawing a parallel to a child I want to say that nandini is immature and dependent on others. That's not normal for an adult of her age right? But yeah by comparing her to a child it may look like I am trying to give her an excuse which is not my intention. As everyone said she is a mystery. As of now I think we can all safely assume that she is a clingy, manipulative woman who has lost the notion of right and wrong
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11



I still dont understand which weed the CVs r smoking. How the hell do they expect the audience to think a woman who sleeps with her BFF's husband & not even show remorse is innocent angel. Then I w'd say the CVs r more delusional than Nandini. I think the CVs s'd now show clearly wat is their intention. Was Nandini always meant 2 b evil, psychotic or its just confused writing/direction


What i meant to say is imo Nandini before abuse might have been innocent and naive. Years of abuse has corroded her self identity and self worth. She might be suffering from mental disorders(C-PTSD) common with abuse victims. She needs proper therapy. Or which sane women would thank god for getting the affections of a married man. I Mainly blame the CVs for handling such serious topic without any seriousness.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#63
Just finish reading all these
@vibha( are you the psy here or is it another thread, sorry if I am mistaken/
Anyway she said that sometimes her patients said that they fall in love with her and she understands, as they share their deepest secrets with her .

What if for N, kunal is like her healer, so there is this feeling she thinks its love.

sorry if i missed threads
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Y12345

Just finish reading all these

@vibha( are you the psy here or is it another thread, sorry if I am mistaken/
Anyway she said that sometimes her patients said that they fall in love with her and she understands, as they share their deepest secrets with her .

What if for N, kunal is like her healer, so there is this feeling she thinks its love.

sorry if i missed threads



But then such ppl will feel guilt & fear of exposure. Not like N who is happily smiling & talking 2 Mauli 😡
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11

Hey I don't take offence easily. You just shared your views. Btw guess you are new to the forum. I hate nandini and can't stand her. Have already had run ins with fanatics due to this 😊 yes you do have valid points. By drawing a parallel to a child I want to say that nandini is immature and dependent on others. That's not normal for an adult of her age right? But yeah by comparing her to a child it may look like I am trying to give her an excuse which is not my intention. As everyone said she is a mystery. As of now I think we can all safely assume that she is a clingy, manipulative woman who has lost the notion of right and wrong


Seems like I kinda misunderstood your comparison. I don't visit this forum much. I am actually hardcore bepannaah fan and sometimes catch a glimpse of silsila after BP. Anyhow I stop watching within 5min because I can't stand it. Sometimes I read written updated and watch selected scenes like Mauli Rajdeep face off. I occasionally visit this forum, honestly only to see how on Earth people are shipping KuNan and try to understand their reasons.

I'm glad you can't stand Nandini and so can't I. I can't stand that lusty Kunal as well. He seems like a lusty pig to me as we called in previous show forum I was in.

I agree with your last statement. I apologize for my misinterpretation. Cheers😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11

I think pages & pages ve been written bt Nandini already 😆 But still many like me r honestly not able 2 get her character. A person who was initially shown as scared, weepy, traditional & silent is now boldly having sex with a married man. This character mystifies me so I tried to really understand this character. I am not sure if from the beginning the CVs had planned Nandini 2 b a morally ambiguous character but right now that's how she is being perceived.

I am a huge fan of Agatha Christie & ve read all her novels.1 of her story Lord Edgware dies has a seemingly dumb air head actress as the main character. 1 of her friend initially warns Poirot that she hates her husband & she is v manipulative. However every1 including Poirot underestimate her to be dumb bimbo. In the climax its revealed tat actually she was the murderer. Poirot remarks that he has solved many more complex cases where the murderer was ingenious & extremely intelligent. But it was this seemingly dumb murderer who had almost defeated him. He says she is almost child like in her behavior. If She wants something, she just takes it, people can go to hell. And ppl put up with it because of her beauty & charisma. I c a parallel between that character Jane & Nandini here. Both seem childlike & innocent. Supposed 2 b ethereally beautiful & charismatic. Even Kunal's family seem to like her & r quite taken in by her. I think Nandini is not a mature person. She might be in the late 20s but seems child like in her behavior. For eg she dint trust her friend Mauli when she accused Rajdeep of molesting her but in Goa cooks cake in the Hotel's kitchen (CVs were smoking weed, which hotel allows this 🥱) as if a cake will make her friend forgive her & understand her love. She simply shrugs off things which happened in the past. It c'd b something as simple as an insult or as severe as physical abuse by Rajdeep. In the earlier episodes 1 moment Rajdeep will be forcefully raping her & another moment she ll b shown cooking special dishes for Rajdeep. Its like her brain shuts down to stop her frm remembering traumatic events. Its her defense mechanism. To a normal, independent woman like me if my hubby insults me or fights with me I ll literally give him the cold shoulder & wont talk till he takes some re-conciliatory steps. Here Nandini just forgets the events or pretends 2 forget. She is also an emotionally weak person who always needs some1 to support & guide her. She doesnt take decisions of her own. Some ppl make things happen eg Mauli, Rajdeep. Some ppl let things happen eg Nandini. She let Rajdeep abuse her for years. When Mauli convinced her to leave Rajdeep she took her advice. When Kunal proposes 2 her she just follows him like a puppy. For her through out her life some1 has to take the lead, some1 has to take care of her. Ppl were saying how she cooks & takes care of ppl. Actually its not true. Even cooking some1 has 2 push her. Earlier she considered it her wifely duty. Then it was frm a sense of gratitude 2 the family who helped her & gave her a place 2 stay. Even the cookery classes were not her idea. And even aft it was decided it was Kunal & Mauli who did all the arrangements. Its like Nandini is a spectator in her own life.

Some1 pointed out how she always chooses men over Mauli. 1st it was Rajdeep. Now Kunal. Its coz she is the kinda woman who thinks A man is the master of the house. 1 of the reason y she is awed of Mauli coz she cant imagine a woman being so strong, independent & outspoken. May be a spark of jealousy triggered from this sense of inferiority complex. Even during that Bird slaughter kaand Kunal had to take care of her like a baby. Now I am not saying that a woman s'd b like a robot. Any woman w'd b traumatized by a brutal rape attempt followed by this. But even aft she seems passive. That night when she fought Rajdeep finally it was only coz she tried calling Mauli & realized tat she is on her own. Even tat earlier she used to allow Rajdeep to rape her but now she desires Kunal so she no longer allows Rajdeep to violate her like earlier.

A v young child has no sense of right or wrong. A 4-5 yr child will push another kid & grab her toy. To her all she needs is tat toy. A child doesnt realize the concept of ownership (u cant grab stuff which is not urs) & morality (u cant hurt some1 to get something u want). Slowly as the child grows, parents, teachers & the society teach her the concept of right & wrong, morality & ethics, law & justice. She soon realizes tat in this society u cant just do anything u want & is more careful in her actions. Her Nandini is the child who never grew up. To her Kunal is a toy she needs. Doesnt matter that he is her friend's hubby. Its like my friend has so many toys so what's wrong if i take 1 of her toy to play. Anyway I am returning it. Hence how she behaves coolly with Mauli & rest of the family.

I think deep down she is not a very nice & loving person. She may not be doing it intentionally. For eg she might not ve entered Mauli's house with the intention of grabbing her hubby. But once she liked him she dint think twice before taking him. Caring is not all about just cooking or maintaining a beautiful house. For eg if Kunal is facing a financial or professional crises, I doubt if Nandini will be able to give him the moral & physical support. She is by nature a taker not a giver. She takes help, she takes support, she takes sympathy. But I ve not seen her give help or support or sympathy to any1. Even in the park if she really understood Kunal's conflict she could ve just talked for a few seconds & left giving an excuse. Instead she manipulated him.

She is a survivor unlike Mauli who is a fighter. For eg when Rajdeep tried to sleep with a girl, N's reaction was tears & pleading with Raj. When tat failed she just accepted it & moved on. She never brought tat up again or fought with Raj. She just accepts watever happens to her, adapts to it, adjusts & survives. Now Kunali in the same place would have clobbered both Raj & the girl before storming out not 2 mention serving divorce papers. Coz Mauli is a fighter. That's the key trait which differentiates the 2 woman. Mauli fights for wat is right. Nandini fights for survival. Here Nandini's thinking is that a Man is necessary for a woman's survival. She is not educated or strong or bold like Mauli. To her she needs a man to survive this big bad world. Earlier tat man was Rajdeep. Now its Kunal. In her twisted, child like mind she is not doing anything wrong. She is just trying to survive. Hence her habit of always choosing a man over Mauli. Its not physical want or desire. Its how her mind works. A woman needs a man to take care of her, to provide for her & make her feel wanted & relevant in life.

I am sure when Mauli finds out the truth & confronts her, N will just cry & say she did nothing wrong coz to her wat she is doing is not wrong.

Sorry for such a looong post & for rambling so much. Looking fwd 2 all ur thoughts on this 😳

In what universe do you think a woman will let a man rape her? "allow him to rape her" do you hear yourself? What led you to think that Nandani LET RAJDEEP VIOLATE every aspect of her being? Nandani's actions aren't superficial, she didn't just choose Rajdeep over Mauli, it's because when a woman is about to be married to someone, the societal backlash she faces when breaking off that relationship is immense.
You said Nandani fights for survival. Yes she does. It's because she has incredible mental health issues that the writers aren't showcasing and the audience refuses to read between the lines. It's not normal for someone to steal their best friends spouse. No one is saying that it's right. But what is not being explored, things like anxiety and depression, commitment issues, manipulation, is why it's happening. If Nandani was written better and given depth and scope about the mental jungle gym that she's had to face in her life then people would understand her better. Then maybe the audience wouldn't blame a rape victim for getting raped and instead would blame the man who raped her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

In what universe do you think a woman will let a man rape her? "allow him to rape her" do you hear yourself? What led you to think that Nandani LET RAJDEEP VIOLATE every aspect of her being? Nandani's actions aren't superficial, she didn't just choose Rajdeep over Mauli, it's because when a woman is about to be married to someone, the societal backlash she faces when breaking off that relationship is immense.

You said Nandani fights for survival. Yes she does. It's because she has incredible mental health issues that the writers aren't showcasing and the audience refuses to read between the lines. It's not normal for someone to steal their best friends spouse. No one is saying that it's right. But what is not being explored, things like anxiety and depression, commitment issues, manipulation, is why it's happening. If Nandani was written better and given depth and scope about the mental jungle gym that she's had to face in her life then people would understand her better. Then maybe the audience wouldn't blame a rape victim for getting raped and instead would blame the man who raped her.

Hey you are misunderstanding and misquoting me. Marital rape is a horrible reality. I think only 10-15 years back the supreme Court passed a landmark judgement that even marital rape is rape and carries the same punishment as any rape. The cvs have already shown several times where that pervert rajdeep used to rape her 🤢 many wives like nandini don't realize it is rape and think as a wife they have to put up with it. It's not like they want it or like it. They don't even realize it constitutes as rape because it's the husband. Where in my post have I blamed nandini for getting raped and claimed that it's her fault. Though I hate nandini i have repeatedly said rajdeep should be thrown in jail and no woman deserves the kind of abuse nandini went through. I still maintain that nandini needs therapy asap. And no nandini did not encourage rajdeep. All I said was like many other wives she put up with it not even realizing that a wife has every right to say no and what that monster was doing was rape 🤢
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11



This is what they call PLAYING THE VICTIM. Look I am not belittling the trauma she experienced in her marriage 2 Rajdeep. No woman good or bad deserves that. But looking at her being totally detached or unaffected 2 Mauli's feelings & pain makes me wonder how different is she from Rajdeep. Rajdeep abused her physically. Nandini is now abusing Mauli & her trust emotionally. How is she any better from Rajdeep. To me she is beyond redemption no matter what the apologists here in the forum say. She is not a nice person. She is not a normal person. BAS!

First let me clarify that I'm in no way defending or supporting what N/K are doing. Heck I haven't even seen one episode of the show, I just happened to come here by accident the other day and found the arguments quite interesting and that's why I came back to read more about your opinions. That being said, Nandini doesn't sound like a healthy minded character to me. It often happens that human brain and also emotions shut down when traumatized and/or emotional abused. It takes time and even strength to face and deal with these things. The part where you mention Nandini not feeling any guilty towards her friend could very well indicate that she's emotionally unavailable. Meaning she doesn't feel any emotions because she shut them down completely. It's what our brain does to protect us when we face something like abuse. So if N was in a abusive relationship for years it's actually quite normal for her to not feel much this soon. I think if she's lucky it will hit her sooner than later and she will realize her wrongs or she will never access those human emotions ever again and may turn into a total psychopath. (I think it will be the latter. I think she's turn negative char) Now which way does the CVs want to go you guys will see.

Again I'm not defending or supporting EMA at all.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The decisions you take during tough times is your character.
Rajdeep over mauli
Kunal over mauli
Fast sex.
Not a shame on face.
No thought of mauli.
Thats the character of Nandini.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have stopped trying to understand home wreckers. At the end of the day, I'll get headache, but their non existing pious lust won't get into my head.
Nandini is poorly written character that she's coming out as horny vamp. This show has been tagged as something very close to reality, but it's no where near real world. In real world people would be scared to jump into another relationship after coming out of one abused marriage, but this woman is desperate to jump on bed with married man and get into another round of mental torture. This physical abuse angle has been included to glorify EMA, like people would give free pass to adultery and cheating if they see that culprit of emotional abuse is victim of physical abuse. Otherwise how hard is it to call the police? Nandini gets abused, instead of reporting it in police station or calling doctor, they get into round of lust session. This show is classic case of 'abused turning into abuser'.


I agree with the person who said comparing Nandini with kids is like we are insulting kids and their innocense. I remember an incident 3 years girl got burnt by iron because she didn't listen her mom and wanted to touch it, she was just waiting for the moment her mom's attention get diverted. That incident taught her two things 1) Never touch the Iron and 2) Never go against your mother's instruction. And here we have a woman in her late 20s or early 30s has experienced all kind of torture (Emotional, physical, mental) not thinking even once that she's giving same pain to her best friend who actually saved her from monster like Rajdeep. She's not some innocent soul, she's a woman with twisted mentality.

I see Nandini as woman who believes in 'friends with benefit' concept. She wants friend like Mauli who is ready to even die for her + sexual pleassure from husband of that friend. Ek ke saath ek free bullshit mentality.

And this entire 'juzzbat galat nahi hote' is total crap concept. I remember reading about 'cousin marriage right or wrong' in another forum. Entire discussion was about 'love can just happen, you have no control over your feelings and emotions' and someone said that what if father-daughter or brother-sister fall in love, still we will call it just happened and it was not in their control? NO. We are human living in society, not animals walking on street jo kahin bhi shuru ho jate hain. Then what is difference between human and animals? Humans have ability to control all kind of uncontrolled nonsense if they install app called 'brain' gifted by almighty

I need to rant about kunal as well- he's just horny pig. It's all about beauty and sexy saree for him. They should have used tagline 'hormones sahi ya galat nahi hote' for him. You have just perfect life, family + educated, loving, caring, independent wife. Still he's interested in tabla naari becase she has sexy saree?


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