looking at the CVs - Page 38

Originally posted by: _charu_

Strong woman may be modern approach but how will they justify the transformation ?can nandu become strong , you guys kept on discussing that she has a psycological problem , she is a victim a patient . Now she will suddenly become strong ? Yes i want kunal to repent big time and none of the ladies must accept him ..but nandu rejecting him will be so much out of character .

I dont find any divine love here..it was claimed by kunal , not be the audience or other characters . Yes , kunal and maulis bond was stronger .

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

What you are saying is good enough , based on reality but it doesnt apply to nandu . If she has nobody to fall.back upon , she might not need kunal also post her trauma and abuse episode if she was so strong mentally ..i mean "if" she had the guts . She couldnt free herself from rajdeep also because she had nowhere to go , nobody to bank upon , not her parents or anyone . Rajdeep said this many.many times , that she has nowhere to go except him . Tum wapas mere.paas.hi aaogi...I am not saying she was wrong there ..she had put up with his abuse for years ...i sympathize with her...i can accept her turning into beyhadh ki maya rather than ishita of yhm. That will be too drastic and illogical.

Cvs may have claimed it divine ? no, we interpreted it that way because kunal said ye bhagwan ne joda hai..uske kehne se it becomes divine ? Dida also says kunal mauli rishta is divine then why negate her ? No i never said he will come back to mauli . I said he must repent , and it can happen in any way , as long as he burns in guilt , i'm ok with it..

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Originally posted by: _charu_

What you are saying is good enough , based on reality but it doesnt apply to nandu . If she has nobody to fall.back upon , she might not need kunal also post her trauma and abuse episode if she was so strong mentally ..i mean "if" she had the guts . She couldnt free herself from rajdeep also because she had nowhere to go , nobody to bank upon , not her parents or anyone . Rajdeep said this many.many times , that she has nowhere to go except him . Tum wapas mere.paas.hi aaogi...I am not saying she was wrong there ..she had put up with his abuse for years ...i sympathize with her...i can accept her turning into beyhadh ki maya rather than ishita of yhm. That will be too drastic and illogical.

Cvs may have claimed it divine ? no, we interpreted it that way because kunal said ye bhagwan ne joda hai..uske kehne se it becomes divine ? Dida also says kunal mauli rishta is divine then why negate her ? No i never said he will come back to mauli . I said he must repent , and it can happen in any way , as long as he burns in guilt , i'm ok with it..

Originally posted by: rhondasa

This topic always has an interesting conversation going on. Sorry to butt in abruptly i just felt like giving my 2 cents.

So we have come down from divine love to divine marriage. I think both the divines cancel each other, so we can just throw the whole divinity angle out of the window and focus on what it really is from the beginning 'a marriage and an affair'. IMO the divinity angle was just brought on by the CVs as a shortcut coz they were just plain lazy to yarn a sensible story which would have taken time. They showed the affair as divine when they wanted to show why kunan fell in love now they are showing marriage as divine when they want to show why maunal cant break it so easily.

From what i have understood up to now i feel Kunal and Nandini dont love each other. They love how they make each other feel. They love themselves when they are with each other. Its a selfish love, coz its based on what the other person can give and how they themselves feel. Kunal and Mauli they love each other as individuals, as a person. When you love someone as a person, you would always wish for their happiness and well being. You love them irrespective of what they give you or how they serve you. Its a more selfless love. I think a balance of selfish and selfless love is needed. Both to the extreme is not good.

Coming to the current track, i feel the only way forward is for Nandini to leave Kunal seeing as to how untrustworthy he is, or Nandini to turn clingy towards him as she feels she needs him for her own sanity and survival. The way forward for Mauli is either accepting him back coz of kunals family pressure or leaving him for the good. Kunal will just flow along with whatever decision the two ladies take.

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@rhondosa -- am not sure why CVs keep resorting to this divine angle as a shortcut. surely, there must be easier ways to write this story even if they feel lazy? the problem is they have written themselves into a corner. you can't have divine love and divine marriage in an ema story. if they wanted both, then the turning point was when nandini left to get on a bus and the CVs could have written how kunal lets her go but finally confesses to mauli and gets divorced. or he just remains quietly miserable but married or something like that...

and I agree with you on the current track options because the women in the drama seem to be bold enough to make decisions. it is aggravating that kunal cannot seem to make any decision but perhaps thats part of his character sketch? that he is absolutely indecisive and cannot be relied upon? and so will fail at any relationship?

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

I agree with @SummerRain here, Kunal has to take responsibility. God, destiny and now Mauli is his wheelchair basically he's a morally crippled man who can not take responsibility of his actions, God and destiny was an easy way out, he has always been like "God has given me this love" so what was he doing for 7 years, he wasted 7 years of someone's life, he can use God's name Wo to Waise hi badnam hai.. But what about Mauli?

Whenever I watch KuNan scene the only question in my head is "What about Mauli, you wuss?" he is the one who stayed, he is the one responsible for Dida's condition so he should be the one to tell Dida that he can't do this as he loves Nandini now, there's nothing in his relationship with Mauli, Mauli has already wasted 7 years of her life on this leech, why should she waste even a second on him?

Let's say he's doing this for Dida and he can't help it then can't he at least be a man enough to not go to Nandini at night? He is a 30 year old man, teenagers are more mature than him, if someone was ill in my home I wouldn't go and meet my boyfriend, no matter how strong the love is, people do stay away from each other for months working in different region, army officers don't meet their wives for years, but of course they are man and Kunal is a leech and this is the case when relationship is normal, KuNan's relationship is not normal, even in this he didn't say "Mauli, we are doing this for Dida but I will meet Nandini", No even now he needed Mauli as a wheelchair to carry him there..

I don't think people can be listed as one two three four on basis of priorities, it changes according to the situation, Nandini is number one for Kunal but will she be number one, let's say Mauli is in hospital and Nandini asks Kunal not to go there? It's human nature to prioritize people according to the situation, there's no definite sequence, people react according to the situation, like I won't miss my class for a picnic with my brother but I will take leave for his wedding, the person is same but situation is different..

On why Mauli is going along with this? First of all she is not Nandini, she won't say "Dida can die but I want divorce", that's not who she is but one more reason for this can be that for Mauli this is that one last chance, you know even court gives people a chance to change, their punishment is a chance only, they are not being killed, their freedom is taken away but after serving their term they are free and you know no matter how bad someone is you do give them a chance, you think that they will change, see I think here we are so enamored in Nandini's pure love that we don't understand what Mauli is going through, Kunal does not love her but it doesn't mean she doesn't love him, you don't just stop loving people, she has loved him for years, the heartbreak is too big for her, she filed for divorce, with this month she knows that Kunal will leave her in the end but there is a chance that he might not, 7 years of her life maybe a misfortune for Kunal as he stated but it is a hope for Mauli. You can see the reflection of this in her dialogues she taunted Kunal that he can go to Nandini isn't that how we act when someone we love is close to someone we dislike for example you must have felt or said something like "Haan Haan go to her, you don't even care me any more" with a hope that the reply will be "I am not going anywhere".


I still feel that Nandini needs a psychiatrists, true love and all is BS, She's so obsessed with him that she is not even human in her reactions, how can your first thought be "Kunal will come back to me" when you hear that someone had a heart attack, Dida was one of the people who supported her, she even took a stand for her when Makhija insulted her, it's not like Dida is calling Kunal because she hasn't played chess in a while, in this case I would have expected this reaction from Nandini, so he went to play chess, he'll come back when I will call him, We can't say that kunal is the most important person to her, yes he can be the most important person but someone is dying..

This love is not divine or true or even good for these two, flaw is one thing but something that kills the human in you is not, if now Nandini does not care that Dida is dying next time she'll kill someone for Kunal, how is that a good thing? It's like a cancer, cancer cells lose their identity and develop new set of receptor, similarly Nandini is losing her identity, sensitivity and humanity. She has stopped caring for people around her, she doesn't care about Mauli, she doesn't care that Dida had a heart attack because of her actions but she cares when someone blames her, she cries only when people call her names, she doesn't like this new identity of herself, she was thinking about what Mauli's mother said to her in front of the mirror, she didn't like it one bit but then the negative side of hers wins over the one which is trying to bring her on the right path.

I am not saying she should leave Kunal or Kunal should leave her but their relationship is not healthy, trust is non-existent, but I guess it serves Kunal well that he left a woman who trusted him blindly, believed his lies for a woman who has no faith in him...one example of this is that when Rajdeep asked Mauli to watch a footage Mauli insulted him and left but when Dida asked Nandini to watch the local news channel not only Nandini watched it but she came running to Kunal

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@whyhate pointed out something earlier which I thought was very spot on -- "The thing that I feel with Kunal is that he expects problems to just resolve themselves"

Kunal seems like he never had to fight for anything his whole life. why? because the entire family is dysfunctional and thrives on sweeping things under the rug. no one wants to talk out their issues because they are afraid to break the peace... so given this attitude, he somehow expects the same will happen with nandini itself. he has never learned the skills to resolve conflict in a sensible manner because no one in this dysfunctional family has the gumption to face things and resolve conflicts.

however, from the beginning, we have seen that she is a far more perceptive person than mauli. part of that may have to do with abuse where for years, she had to read the body language of rajdeep to know when danger could lurk. she constantly had to try read the silences and see what that situation would mean for herself. so her survival instincts and need for self-preservation are very strong.

we already saw that before when she decided to move out of the city. she knew that she was weak and had strong feelings for kunal. she understood herself that she would eventually succumb to those feelings and so she tried to remove herself from the equation. part of that was self-preservation for herself.

like you said, kunal really dug a hole for himself and the problem is that he has no idea how big that hole is. these things he promised her were very significant.

kunal showed her that he was someone she could rely on and she was no longer alone and she didn't have to do everything herself. so any signs that he isn't willing to take the initiative to be the provider and to protect her will be seen as abandonment and she will eventually decide on steps for her own self-preservation. so rather than bond being weak, his lack of initiative and willingness to stand up for her is what's going to break the relationship. she knows he loves her but if he isn't willing to stand up for her, then it is meaningless and she will just rely on herself like she has always done and get up and move on.

Pamk06 - I rewatched that part and thanks for that wonderful explanation 🤣. Shock laga Bhai!

But seriously what the hell is Kunal doing? I find myself agreeing with WhyHate, mango_pudding and FruitToasty. This guy's lack of initiative is making this messier for everybody. I was shocked when I saw Yamini smiling in the background. For all the outburst in the beginning, she has turned out to be a completely useless chracater. She does not give me any motherly vibes and I think we have every reason to conclude that they are a dysfunctional family. And Kunal will not do anything unless and until he is pushed to a corner. His "okay okay to Dida was deliberately misinterpreted. He did not care to correct her and yes that situation was difficult, but like some of the people pointed out here, had Mauli said no to Didai's request, he wouldn't have forced her. He is perpetually in the background waiting for other people to think and act and simply goes along with it. So the chances of him doing anything on his own to get Nandini into his life looks miniscule as of now.

I was so damn annoyed when Mauli made it easier for him to sneak out. But it was also in a way, a very symbolic slap. And weirdly, I am happy that though it made him feel further ashamed, he still went out to meet Nandini. Had he stayed back, he would have come across as someone who lacks conviction in anything. But in all this, does he actually realize that the person who he has hurt the most is covering up his sorry ass??

Seriously, right now, I don't know how it is that I am putting up with his sorry face on the screen. Whatever he is doing in the name of "love for his family is just plain spinelessness and there is simply no other word for it.

And the makers are now blundering on a whole new level. Being doctors, do Kunal and Mauli think it is alright for someone who has just had a heart attack to exert herself by being a part of festivities and rituals? And instead of all the divine marriage symbolism, and other characters coming in to counsel Nandini, I'd rather wish for BP's Aditya to come again and give a sound hearing to Kunal on how infidelty in marriage affects the wronged partner and make them incapable of trusting and loving again.

Coming to Dida's Salim Anarkali wali tippany, Pamk06 , I thought , since it was Dida who mouthed those lines I thought she was telling Mauli to trust her love for Kunal, and that will eventually bring him back, because he was the one who went away first . And whatever crap Dida herself is doing to Nandini (though her intention is to break Nandini's trust ) , that is in effect a test of love and trust for Nandini as well. So whoever hangs on to their faith, gets the prize called Kunal. That's the way I interpreted it.

I really don't know why no one is questioning Kunal on anything. And the divinity angle is baffling. Wasn't EMA shown as destined and divine earlier, and now suddenly marriage is also divine? Or are they trying to tell us that EMA was destined to happen but marriage (being holy and sacred) will survive that. If that is the case, then I am sorry, I did not sign up for this story. I wanted to see raw human emotions play out and human beings battling it out with their own emotions, I do not want to watch a story where humans are shown as mere puppets in a divine game.' Did they forget the tagline of their own show???

Originally posted by: rhondasa

This topic always has an interesting conversation going on. Sorry to butt in abruptly i just felt like giving my 2 cents.

So we have come down from divine love to divine marriage. I think both the divines cancel each other, so we can just throw the whole divinity angle out of the window and focus on what it really is from the beginning 'a marriage and an affair'. IMO the divinity angle was just brought on by the CVs as a shortcut coz they were just plain lazy to yarn a sensible story which would have taken time. They showed the affair as divine when they wanted to show why kunan fell in love now they are showing marriage as divine when they want to show why maunal cant break it so easily.

From what i have understood up to now i feel Kunal and Nandini dont love each other. They love how they make each other feel. They love themselves when they are with each other. Its a selfish love, coz its based on what the other person can give and how they themselves feel. Kunal and Mauli they love each other as individuals, as a person. When you love someone as a person, you would always wish for their happiness and well being. You love them irrespective of what they give you or how they serve you. Its a more selfless love. I think a balance of selfish and selfless love is needed. Both to the extreme is not good.

Coming to the current track, i feel the only way forward is for Nandini to leave Kunal seeing as to how untrustworthy he is, or Nandini to turn clingy towards him as she feels she needs him for her own sanity and survival. The way forward for Mauli is either accepting him back coz of kunals family pressure or leaving him for the good. Kunal will just flow along with whatever decision the two ladies take.

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

A very interesting take. But I believe there are no universal definitions of love. Two people can start off in a relationship in any manner. You may think the other person's happiness is all that matters to you, only to realize later that you have been ignoring your own happiness and your partner is not doing enough to make you feel happy. It can also happen the other way, where in, like you said, they like the idea of how they feel about themselves when they are with each other, ony to realize later that that's all there is to the relationship and nothing more. In both the cases, it will be time and how they both grow individually and as a couple that will decide the fate of their relationship. So, whatever it is that Kunal and Nandini are feeling for each other, they are choosing to call it love for now. Whether it will stand the test of time remains to be seen.