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akash08

@akash08

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Posted: 13 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: Chitrashi
@Akash
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Neither do you have any knowledge about me to say whether I'm speaking from bookish knowledge or from personal experience. I have a Jain Aunt, a Christian Sis-in Law and a Muslim Bro-in law and we are all on excellent terms with all. But you see I come from a family that is above such pettiness.

Pettiness - is a personal perspective..I m happy that you are happy. For me he was indirectly advocating for inter religion marriage by chosing to show number of such cases in the show.. and why he would not!! We know where he is coming from!!

I do not have a personal example to give in each and every debate like you can easily give.. I envy you being so experienced that in every debate so far .. you have always been able to state how and when you personally experienced this (remember I am speaking from n number of debates we have been part of in IF before).. I wish I had been such experienced myself..

However, on this particular topics, I have personaly seen the animal instict of fanatics which is a hugely motivational factor in most caes.. a small number of true love cases may exist but that does not justify the reality.. Again perspective is mine and I know pre-British Indian history justifies me..

I must agree this discussion should stop as this can lead to fight.. I just did not like you ordering someone or rather taunting someone's post just because you did not wish to discuss reigious angle though it was a relevant angle to discuss such topic!!

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Purva

@-Purva-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#72

I'm sorry Parents do have a right on their offspring, and that is to demand maintenance and support for medical expenses in their old age. The proviso is that the parents must be old and incapable of supporting themselves and the child in question must be financially independent. Apart from that parents have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER on adult offspring.

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Purva

@-Purva-

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: akash08
Pettiness - is a personal perspective..I m happy that you are happy. For me he was indirectly advocating for inter religion marriage by chosing to show number of such cases in the show.. and why he would not!! We know where he is coming from!!

I do not have a personal example to give in each and every debate like you can easily give.. I envy you being so experienced that in every debate so far .. you have always been able to state how and when you personally experienced this (remember I am speaking from n number of debates we have been part of in IF before).. I wish I had been such experienced myself..

However, on this particular topics, I have personaly seen the animal instict of fanatics which is a hugely motivational factor in most caes.. a small number of true love cases may exist but that does not justify the reality.. Again perspective is mine and I know pre-British Indian history justifies me..

I must agree this discussion should stop as this can lead to fight.. I just did not like you ordering someone or rather taunting someone's post just because you did not wish to discuss reigious angle though it was a relevant angle to discuss such topic!!

LOL Guilty as charged. Yes I do have a vast horde of anecdotes from personal experience. I'm not a teenager, have moved around extensively, come from a large family (My father has 7 siblings, my mother has 5) and am in touch with most of them and their numerous offspring. I'm a working woman so my exposure to the world is not limited to the four walls. And most importantly I keep an open mind, read a lot and am quite verbose. Gosh! I kick myself at times for being so verbose.

As for my debate with the TM, you've read only the last post of mine, which did descend to personal attack, and I admitted as such. You should've read my earlier interactions with the person.

That the cases Amir chose to bring were limited, I too admit, and I've addressed that in a separate thread. Please have a look at my opinion on the episode in question, and then you would perhaps understand my objections in this thread better:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/satyamev-jayate/3013582/honor-killing-my-pov-on-the-epi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#74

@ Chitrashi= I think,by engaging in debate on this topics,we seemed to have given the TM's rather questionable opinions some sort of obverse legitimacy!

@ Akash= I am amazed at the rather superficial views you have expounded here-I've liked your posts on other fora.I'm adding my two cents worth of personal experiences!

1) I am a Sikhani married to a South African Hindu-no religious problems.
2) My daughter is married to a Protestant Irishman-neither has tried to convert the other!
3) My son is married to a Buddhist Burmese-both are following/or not their OWN religions.

This my IMMEDIATE family-different countries,different religions living in harmony,precisely because we respect & love the PERSON without getting side tracked by outward social/religious trappings. Religion is a personal matter between an individual & his/her God/Goddess. NOBODY else has the right to interfere or decide for another what is right or wrong in THIS matter.

You would do well to listen to the more mature ,more sane voices that speak out rather than mock their greater or more extensive experience-as you seem to be doing in your last post

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Vikrant Khatri

@LordVikrant

Explorer

Posted: 13 years ago

#75

we are talking about India and Indian society and not those residing out of India..we are also not talking about few examples but majority...out there what they think...we are talking about those who kill,oppose and object and not those who have set example...

The circumstances and family environment is not same for all,hence examples written here about inter religious and inter caste or inter community marriages matter least becoz they dont have problem...

My article is on those who have problems with such marriages and why they have problems with it...

This article was never for those who have set examples to come and preach here and show how great they are and how modern they are...

Some jirks are concentrating only on religion...and denying the fact blindly that religion is such an important factor which decides marriages and fate of lovers...

Just saw an entire one hour debate on CNN IBN yesterday where some judge has allowed muslim girls to marry at 15 and others at 18 ...asif muslim girls mature early...and all this to curb pre marital sex in muslim community and some insane blind and stubborn jirk defending this judgement was saying other communities have no objection with [re marital sex it is allowed...

How stupid...

Yesterday's judgment shows that India doesnt even have common marital laws for all...

And people over here are talking why religion...boss this is india...over here religion and caste matters to plenty and there are only few in million years who have moved on from this barrier...

After all that is happening around and even discussed on the news channels...

concentrate on improving rights of parents over children and that is what i have focussed on directly or indirectly but for that one shud have proper understanding ...and not merely preach religion doesnt matter becoz it doesnt matter to them...

The fact is they think if religion doesnt matter to them then it shud not matter to every one...a stupid logic...if that was the case the world wud have been a different place without borders...

Dont tell me and give me examples which are so rare that they dont even stand a chance to be counted...

Haaa hahahahah what a joke muslim girls allowed to marry at 15...It can only happen in India...unwanted Pampering of those who least deserve...in this world of peace...

Edited by ComebackMaaneet - 13 years ago

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567043

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Posted: 13 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: bewafa
*bangs head against wall*

repeatedly

No emoticon for THIS either?!
Will need a really Special one of a rocket exploding to stand for Continental Ballistic Missile instead of ICBM?!!

Edited by znursingh - 13 years ago

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Purva

@-Purva-

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet
we are talking about India and Indian society and not those residing out of India..we are also not talking about few examples but majority...out there what they think...we are talking about those who kill,oppose and object and not those who have set example...

The circumstances and family environment is not same for all,hence examples written here about inter religious and inter caste or inter community marriages matter least becoz they dont have problem...

My article is on those who have problems with such marriages and why they have problems with it...

This article was never for those who have set examples to come and preach here and show how great they are and how modern they are...

Some jirks are concentrating only on religion...and denying the fact blindly that religion is such an important factor which decides marriages and fate of lovers...

Just saw an entire one hour debate on CNN IBN yesterday where some judge has allowed muslim girls to marry at 15 and others at 18 ...asif muslim girls mature early...and all this to curb pre marital sex in muslim community and some insane blind and stubborn jirk defending this judgement was saying other communities have no objection with [re marital sex it is allowed...

How stupid...

Yesterday's judgment shows that India doesnt even have common marital laws for all...

And people over here are talking why religion...boss this is india...over here religion and caste matters to plenty and there are only few in million years who have moved on from this barrier...

After all that is happening around and even discussed on the news channels...

concentrate on improving rights of parents over children and that is what i have focussed on directly or indirectly but for that one shud have proper understanding ...and not merely preach religion doesnt matter becoz it doesnt matter to them...

The fact is they think if religion doesnt matter to them then it shud not matter to every one...a stupid logic...if that was the case the world wud have been a different place without borders...

Dont tell me and give me examples which are so rare that they dont even stand a chance to be counted...

Haaa hahahahah what a joke muslim girls allowed to marry at 15...It can only happen in India...unwanted Pampering of those who least deserve...in this world of peace...

Some people refuse to listen to reason, and I have no desire to descend to the level of fools. Despite repeated requests to not discuss religion, you would not listen and go a step further each time.

Well I'm reporting you and your post for making disparaging remarks about a particular community. Maybe voice of sanity is not welcome in your limited well, but on this forum, we abhor such statements. It is against the forum rules and the IF COC.

What you have written shows your mentality. To reiterate the point I made earlier, this is an international forum where people from all nationalities, religions and age-groups interact on a common level. What you have said insults 99.99% of the members of IF.

@Mods: I'm only quoting the post in question so that the member cannot go and edit out the offensive remarks made by him. I'll edit out all this trash from my post once action is taken.

Edited by Chitrashi - 13 years ago

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Purva

@-Purva-

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet
Just saw an entire one hour debate on CNN IBN yesterday where some judge has allowed muslim girls to marry at 15 and others at 18 .

Haaa hahahahah what a joke muslim girls allowed to marry at 15...It can only happen in India...unwanted Pampering of those who least deserve...in this world of peace...

By the way I do not remember you frothing at the mouth when SMJ failed to club child-marriages performed in a large section of India in the episode on CSA, but you do not fail to laugh at a particular community about a court judgement.

Do you even realize that you are not only mocking a community but also the Judicial setup in India. To mock a court sentence is contempt of court. If you have a problem with the said judgement, please file a PIL against the said judgement. But I still fail to see what it has to do with the episode in question. By the way, I did not know you were above the law of the land.

No one is interested in what you choose to follow on news programmes and you opinion thereof, it has no relevance to this show as far as I can see. If you have valid points to make relevant to the show do so, else please take to blogging. This is not a blog.

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Rich`

@cs-07

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#79

the person is right about th case as it was reported this week in the newspaper

but thats not abt hindu or muslim ..

its the law or the judicial system atfault

when people give religion importance more than anything else thats when riots happen ..

please have a broader perspective