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bewafa

@bewafa

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: narangi_77

I second that!
Seriously! Is this guy for real???!!!!!😕

😆 😆 😆

I reckon aiye.

I really hope he's just trolling 😆

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Vikrant Khatri

@LordVikrant

Explorer

Posted: 13 years ago

#82

People who have moved on from social barriers are questioning and objecting the one,offcourse me who is highlighting why those who are not moving on from social barriers...

I have just written reasons and the best solution...why so much issue out of it..

Just becoz the solutions are not entirely what the so called people who have moved on want..

Or rights of parents should be increased and improved over children is hurting and something which did not go down...

Typical modern selfish mentality,think of urself...why think of parents...

for them children are outcome of fun parents have...rubbish...

western shitty mentality pollluting the pure indian culture which was way ahead of time centuries ago...

once an east india company commander in his letter to the queen mentioned..

There is not a single poor person in India becoz their culture is very strong,if you want to enslave and make this country poor,attack their culture,make them believe their culture is inferior to the west...that is what is happening...

Its good to take good from other cultures but also preserve our own...

No doubt the liberty to choose your partner is good for children and is a step forward but not at the cost of rights of parents compromised...

Now,its only liberty to children and parents have no right on them...

If u read my article again u will find i have only written about strengthning the rights of parents...

read it again...before u comment blindly...

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Vikrant Khatri

@LordVikrant

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Posted: 13 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: nirvanlove
the person is right about th case as it was reported this week in the newspaper

but thats not abt hindu or muslim ..

its the law or the judicial system atfault

when people give religion importance more than anything else thats when riots happen ..

please have a broader perspective

ohh common yaar, why there is judicial fault,becoz few in this society are so stubborn that they do not want to follow the common law they simply dont accept it becoz it is called "Hindu marriage act"

stop denying and ignoring the fact that "religion" influences marriages and other aspects of our indian society..

then y wud the court allow 15 years for muslims and 18 years for others...

over here differentiation happened over religion and religious belief...

I am sure there are many cases of pre marital sex which provoked some one to come up with this case and get the judgement passed...

and not to my surprise,pre marital sex was discussed on that show...

anyways my point is " Increase rights of parents " and see the change...

in this era when every religion is trying to prove its superiority...and has so much impact...lets parents decide what is good for their child ...by doing this others including so called saviours of community and relatives will be cancelled out...

Let the matter of marriage be between child and their parents...

So tht if tomorrow there is something against the norms of community...parents dont regret their child did not take them into confidence...

the child is hurt for having hurt their parents and parents are hurt becoz their view was never respected,becoz it parents are not backed by constitution and law..

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Vikrant Khatri

@LordVikrant

Explorer

Posted: 13 years ago

#84

well enough of the serious arguments and what i think and wht u all feel ...

Do read my other articles on India forum about your fav shows probably

Do read my other posts on India forum and the links are below

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/punar-vivah/2938103/punarvivah-season-2-episodes-now-in-fan-fictions

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3015729/letter-of-thanks-drashti-return-soon-after-mb-ends

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3015643/love-u-princessa-madhubala-fan-fiction

Thanks and Regards,

Vikrant Khatri.

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Rich`

@cs-07

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#85

manmeet, if the rights of the parents are increased, there are parents who murder their children for being in love with the person from the same or different community
i cant imagine what will happen when they are given rights over mature adults aged abv 18 n 21 respectively.

we have to trust that children will know whats right for them or when they dont, parents need to counsel and not dictate their terms. even the educated lot in families are so narrow minded when it comes to matters , love being one of the examples, what will the illiterate people do to their children.

the hindu marriage act etc. i dont know the details of law and acts but it is the judicial system being at fault. why are their laws different for hindu n muslims.

a girl hindu or muslim, is still a child at the age of 15 😡

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582445

Hibernated

Posted: 13 years ago

#86

@maaneetcombackI really can't get u by ur post... its so complicated .. whatever ur user name suggests u loved a show which had such family prob n honor killing n it shows how someone goes against it... after watching d show how can u support such illogical customs like Gotra system I really don't know

n about d Gotra System: in Hindu culture it was not allowed to get married in one gotra coz in ancient age gotra used to be a group of people who had blood relations in them.. with time things changed n Gotra became a group of multiple families with no blood relation.. the rules were made so It couldn't be change then so they created another rules if Bride n Groom belongs to same Gotra then before marriage they have to perform a trivial ritual of Gotra Change .. but it seems some community still following the ancient rules like blind

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Rich`

@cs-07

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#87

my father whenever he talks to someone about matrimony related purposes , he talks about the gotra, i mever knew what the connection was until i read the part in Pink above. i must say its extremely backward of my father to talk about the same and give it so much importance after being so educated.

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582445

Hibernated

Posted: 13 years ago

#88

@comebackmaaneet

let me answer ur questions

1. my family has accepted inter religious marriage 40 years ago when my uncle married a Christian woman that too from Germany

2. in every marriage their can be other reasons, in arrange marriages do u think love always come after marriage.. NO most of d time its only compromise ..

3. Divorce is nothing to do with love or arrange marriage .. it happens when two people thinks they can't leave together n cant be in a relation... in case of arrange marriage love happens rarely so in a compromised relationship their is no expectation where in love marriage its normal, may be thats y complication comes in it bt that doesn't mean in fear of complication we will compromise... its better to have a moment of love than a loveless life long relationship

whatever ur knowledge in Hidnu culture is really poor.. ds religion says love is God n God is love.. the deity of Radha Krishna stands for it... Radha stands for Love n Krishna stands for God .. n love comes even before God coz we always take Radha's name before Krishna

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Vikrant Khatri

@LordVikrant

Explorer

Posted: 13 years ago

#89

gosh...literates of no use with blind minds...

cant u understand what I am trying to say...

its not about u its about those who have problem...then y is everyone coming up with examples of inter religious marriages...

u wanna show how great u guys are?

if examples mattered then world wud have been a different place...

I remember a line from Schindler's list...the fmaous speilberg movie...

Its in human nature to "envy" and equality and thought of equality will never exists..

I am sorry it was in "enemy at the gates"

I am not supporting or opposing any stand...those who have no objections with inter religious marriages fine...that's good

But do not expect or hope or preach how noble it is as an idea...

Becoz for those who have issues and objections should also be respected...

Both the feelings should be respected and no one has right to claim they are modern or superior and others are orthodox...

If same gotra marriage is opposed,it is opposed for a reason which can be scientifically proved...

if inter religion marriages are opposed they are for a reason...no one is fool or orthodox to do it..

Like we have some responsibilities towards our society we also have responsibility towards our faith our religion which is our identity and most important the identity given by our parents...

All I have written is about preserving the identity by law and constitution becoz not every has the understanding to respect other person's identity his faith and his religion...

If u still feel religion doesnt matter then look around and give me the best other reason for the blood shed other than religion...

The fact is...respect the stand other's have and dont just preach how great you are by giving examples which are unique...

Accept the fact that other's have a different view which shud also be respected...

Understand the intensity of the feeling if parents have to kill their own children and for that u shud first understand what a child means to his or her parent...

Once u understand this u wud then try and understand how intense this feeling must be which motivates parents to kill their own child...

I have just highlighted what this feeling is all about,why parents feel like this and what motivates them..

Most important I have highlighted how we can stop this and we can only stop the blood shed if we improve rights of parents over their children through constitution..

Only then the matter will be between parents and children and outsiders can be ruled out...

Becoz if parents who have rights over their children do not have problems their child marrying someone from outside then it is none of anyone's bussiness for that matter neither relatives or others from the community to intervene..

Now in most cases the entire family,relatives and community gets involved and the matter which shud be ideally between parents and children then becomes a matter of family and community and the result mass killings under the name of honour...

I dont think if parents give a go ahead or approval it is anybody's choice or interest to intervene,becoz they wud know parents themselves have approved it...

I concentrated on increasing and protecting the rights of parents and those commenting are concentrating only on religion...

and sharing examples of their family when it matter least and infact is no where related...

why wud parents who themselves married someone they love wud have objections against someone whom their child likes...

My entire article was about those who have problem,why they have problem and how by amending law and protecting rights of parents we can curb pacify and lower the killings and objections by parents ...

It was never about those who dont have problem,why they dont have problem...

Simple article taken to some other way just becoz one idiot is responding continously and highlighting as if i am talking against inter religious marriages...

what wud examples of inter religious marriages do...

they wud do nothing becoz those who have problem dont even come to this forum ..to look at ur examples and learn from it...

If world was tht intelligent then we wud have seen a lot more peace than it is now...

For god sakes.concentrate on my suggestions to improve rights of parents and instead of religion which is only one of the factor and not the factor on which i wrote an article...

And for one and the last time please stop giving examples of who married whom and from where and which religion or country...

Concentrate on how we can highlight and stop those who have issues with so called "modern thoughts"

Tht's wht i have done ...

People are giving examples over here and believe everyone shud follow them becoz they are great and have done something special...

If one out of u wud have commented on my seven pointers suggesting change in law and protection of rights of parents i wud have appreciated that..

but every one over here is busy bombarding me over highlighting how religion plays a bigger role...

and people have not spared parents as well and labelled them as killers of lovers..

are there people and children so blind in love that they dont see any thing else done by their parents...and can only highlight how parents kill their children in love..

wud have appreciated if someone wrote about why parents kill their children in love...

anyways...no time wasting...

I hereby clarify that my article is not against any religion or community or faith,I have only highlighted what prevails in the society,what I have seen in past 28 years of my life...what parents feel when they hear about their child in love,what are their problems and how constitution favours only children and why there is a need to protect rights of parents...

If u dont understand this then fine , keeping posting about ur greatness and ur families too and get as many likes as u want..and offcourse contiue bombarding me for wrong reasons ...

Hope now u wud understand the feel of the article and read it again and understand what i have tried to convey..if any one replies with a change in view and proper understanding of what i tried to convey my job is done..

Good bye...and see you later on some other forum

well enough of the serious arguments and what i think and wht u all feel ...

Do read my other articles on India forum about your fav shows probably

Do read my other posts on India forum and the links are below

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/punar-vivah/2938103/punarvivah-season-2-episodes-now-in-fan-fictions

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3015729/letter-of-thanks-drashti-return-soon-after-mb-ends

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3015643/love-u-princessa-madhubala-fan-fiction

Thanks and Regards,

Vikrant Khatri.

Edited by ComebackMaaneet - 13 years ago

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Bharathi_gurti

@Bharathi_gurti

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 13 years ago

#90

Understand the intensity of the feeling if parents have to kill their own children and for that u shud first understand what a child means to his or her parent...

so you are telling us the parents are undergoing emotional turmoils and they decide to kill the children😆 and now those murderers appear so normal to you and you want to have sympathy and love for such people...😡...how can you even think this way man.!!!! 😡dont you know one thing...let others live...!!!!..😕.what is this all you are trying to say...please., stop your discussions...😡...this is going no where!!!!!😡...how can you say killing is correct!!!!...all amir tried to convey is just if your children found true love, let them live and all we say is we have every right to choose our life partner...inspite of all differences...did you get this straight...😊.

so its you vikrant...😆...oh god!!!!!!😲

Edited by sindu_gurti - 13 years ago

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