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Posted: 13 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Chitrashi


1) It shud be mandatory to take approval of both living parents ( of boy and girl) in case of marriage and in rare cases if they are not alive then government should approve with certain terms and conditions.

Did someone tell you that marriages in India are legal only if performed between consenting adults? We are not talking of child marriages, but adults. Parents have nothing whatsoever to do with marriages. And you might need to be protected from your own decisions, but government of India has a lot more on its plate than to play matchmaker for a billion citizens.





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You just made me crack up imagining a govt. run marriage department! Thanks!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet

Satyamev Jayate and topic on love,a flop show and a missed oppurtunity

I did not like d way u drafted d shw,instead of questioning y interreligion marriage is a taboo,u kept preaching in favour of that...Do u even know the mentality of common masses.If u want to understand it then run a campaign and ask will u favour inter religion marriage in your family and I am sure the replies will give you the answers and the reasons y lovers got killed.


To avoid killings,to avoid exploitation of both parents and lovers it is important to consider point of view of both..

Hence law shud be enforced to protect feelings of both parents and children and not just one...

This imbalance in particular is a major reason which has led to those incidents and this imbalance where the constitution favuring only the children under the name of freedom will only intensify the belief of those who kill lovers...

To pacify and kill this habit and passion of killing lovers a set of law with rules protecting rights of both parents and children will rule out involvement of so called society and outsiders...


Following rules shud be introduced...


1) It shud be mandatory to take approval of both living parents ( of boy and girl) in case of marriage and in rare cases if they are not alive then government should approve with certain terms and conditions.


2) An independent body shud be made to keep a check on inter religious marriages which ensures there is no conversion and identity of the individuals is kept intact...

3) The idea of an individual has a right to choose his own religion is good but activities like luv jihad and other forceful conversions under the name of love and marriage has seriously hurt this thought where many raise questions over the true reasons of conversion,if it is by will or force or no other choice,specially in case of girls who marry a boy from other religion,hence an law shud be enforced where the identity will remain the same after marriage.

4) Children shud be given exposure to both religions and not one and this shud be taken care by enforcing law..

5) Respect and tolerance toward other religion shud not be kept merely as preaches and part of politicians speech but shud be practiced with law ensuring it...

We as Indians are multi cultural country...its unlike west or other nations where the country has one dominant religion and culture..

The west is open to love marriages becoz it has one dominant culture and religion and it is "christianity" ...

Problems due to multi cultural society have already begun in france and UK...
Boss yahan channels mein inter religion love stories bata do toh show band karva dete hai..real life mein shaadi toh dur ki baat hai...

Count the number of shows showing inter religion love stories...hardly few

Becoz it leads to controversies and no one wants to hurt mass sentiments..
which means majority sentiments..so even the channels and makers of show are diplomatic and know what shud not be showed and why it shud not be showed...

I strongly object killing and the those who do it should be hanged and there shoul be law enforced but there should be another law enforced and to begin with I will concentrate on inter religion marriages

Inter religion marriage means marrying a completely new culture which might be ok for the lovers but they cannot force their family members to accept it,how can anyone gaurantee that love marriages always happen out of pure love and not with other motive...one such motive is "love Jihad" and I hope u will atleast not deny this fact...

When majority even though with moderate views towards religion wont accept inter religion marriages then why promote and preach for it...

Even though we are in 2012 still the parents feel what if theri children bring some one who is not even from the same religion and marry...? ur thoughts on this Mr Khan,can u deny this tht is still prevelant and is a dominant tht?over here I am considering views of those who are not on social networking platforms and their acts prove hw much they hate inter religion marriages...

My point is enforce law to avoid killings of lovers but do not handicap parents,are parents merely there to accept whtever their children do?kya sirf aashirvad dene ke liye hai woh?

Law shud be enforced that it is mandatory to have approval from living parents of both girl and boy and in rare cases where parents are not alive the government shud make sure that the girl is not converted to other religion by force or no other choice...

Do not handicap parents under the name of love and sacrifice their feelings...

Interreligion marriages are the root cause of distrust among the religious communities and shud be banned and believe it or not it is one of the main reasons y parents avoid girl child,with fear of future circumstances when they look around whts happening in the society...

Girl childs freedon,education and working prospect is hampered by this one thought of inter religion marriage...atleast focus on these points which are there in the society and are major driving force in deciding the future of a girl child..

If law is introduced to protect this feeling and fear of parents then see the change...neither lovers will get killed atleast not at the rate it is now and girl child and their parents will have an entirely new and improved view...

If u wanna enlight people go one step at a time and dont push your views becoz moderates like me too will object it...

I am purposely missing more points on inter religion marriages but I strongly believe they are as of now are against the mass feeling and so is live in relationship which has no commitment but liberty to exploit commitment...

Coming down to Intercaste marriages:

They shud be strongly recommended and law shud be enforced against same gotra marriages..becoz genetically it is not gud and wud result in genetically weak children...wud accept scientific explanations and answers if any...to rectify my opinions...

Inter caste marriages...are lifeline for the religion and it is very important they are promoted...

I end with a fact tht,one wud accept inter caste of marriages within the various streams of hindu religion but do not hope inter religion marriages will be accepted so soon when there is a sense of distrust among the religions and when all the religions are striving for their own survival,if udont believe it then look at the blood shed around the world...and marriage and marriage thru love is a safe door where one can deny other religion and favour his own...atleast for now it seems so...

Aamir it was a poor show with research in the wrong direction which did not even touch the root cause of y such incidents happen in the society...




We can now have one episode on discrimination on basis of caste, religion, financial status etc.
Even supreme court says that inter caste marriages will help reduce discrimination.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi all, I have edited the main article again to put forth my views in a better manner,may be this will help you understand what I wanted to say..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#54
Dear Mr. Khatri,

Since you don't seem to be able to grasp a simple request made to you a number of times by me and other members of the forum to NOT discuss religion, since it had nothing to do with the show and it is topic that can create strife. I decided to run a simple experiment.

I've taken your edited article and replaced the word "Religio" with something else, in bold red. My text editor tells me that there were 43 replacements made. Below is your article as is except for the replacements made.

I'm aware that my response might get me my first warning on IF, but I'm willing to take the risk in order to perhaps drive the point home to you that NO ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS RELIGION here.

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet

We are social animals man,then how can a social event as important infact the most important " Marriage and decision regarding it be left only to children and not their parents?

" One should be identified by his name,his father's name in between and last name that of mother,surnames should be banned becoz they help one differentiate others."

Involve parents,protect interests and rights of parents on their children and see the change?

But why involve parents?

What are their problems and why do they oppose?

Addressing the above issues below.

To the point:

Aamir's new show is definitely different,something only he could do and was much needed,I liked all the previous episodes but not the one aired last sunday which was based on "Love Marriages".

He spoke about what happens to "Lovers" but he did not even come close to analyzing why it happens to lovers,unlike his previous episodes and issues he not only showed what happens but also discussed why it happens, but he did not this time and that is why the show was a complete waste of time and disappointed me and many others.

It wasn't expected from Aamir Khan atleast.

But why he did not touch the reasons why it happens to lovers,becoz he knew the reasons are a sensitive matter and the reasons are

1) I am a certifiable Idiotn

2) Caste

3) Constitution

Whether one believes or not the above three factors influence "Marriage" in a big,big manner...

and when it is love marriage then the impact is even bigger and far more intense...

Aamir may not have touched the reason why "Lovers are treated like that but I would in my article,becoz on television when anything is related to above three factors I am a certifiable Idiotn,caste and Law it is a sensitive matter and diplomacy is the best stand one can take and even Amir did the same and that as a big let down indeed by Mr Khan...now when everyone is talking about bringing change in the society then why hesitate to talk about the reasons and factors responsible for the mess in the society...

If he can talk about sex,child abuse then why not I am a certifiable Idiotn,caste and constitution and laws which influence marriage to such great extent.Talking about child abuse,same sex marriages,study of sex in early age to students,all this was considered taboo and people avoided these chats in open but now they are not,then why not talk openly about the three factors above...

Why??????????????? just becoz they are too sensitive...I want to ex[press and

Below is my take on "Love marriages" and why those killings happened and will continue to happen.

There are three facts I am going to discuss in this article

1) Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages

2) Inter caste marriages

3) Constitution and Law.

To start with

"Marriage" is such an important and turning point in one's life that it not only affects the individuals who get married but also affects their parents ( naturally) brothers and sisters,then the relatives and at last the community one belongs to,marriages are taken as examples and influence one's behavior and his stance in the society...

Example: If inter I am a certifiable Idiotus or inter community marriage happens in one family of a community the other families of the same community start implementing restrictions specially on girl child which further affects the number of girl child in the society,their education and career.

Constitution:

It was said on the show that Indian constitution is influenced by British constitution and British constitution is influenced by their culture and beliefs,but amir made fun of the poor old guy who was trying to put forth his view,clearly aamir had a negative image and perception of the panch who were sitting there and he allotted minimum time to them and cut them in between...

The panch may be orthodox but what he was trying to say had some reason and weight which aamir either purposely or since he knew their views was against what he thought he ignored them clearly...well coming to the topic

When it comes to marriages then it is a social aspect of any community and majority of laws are influenced by culture...

Hence a Muslim is allowed to marry four times but the same is not applicable to others...

The present Law needs amendments and introduction of few new ones becoz

My first impression is under the name of freedom and children having right to choose their own life partner the basic rights and feelings of parents is ignored and not protected by Law.

Parents are left with nothing but watch their children do what ever they want and their role is literally sacrificed becoz Law favors only the children.

Its important that Law favors both parents and children in case of marriages at least.

This imbalance in particular is a major reason which has led to those incidents and this imbalance where the constitution favuring only the children under the name of freedom will only intensify the belief of those who kill lovers...

If parents are given protection and assurance by Law then the door opens for communication.

But what do parents fear when it comes to inter I am a certifiable Idiotus and inter caste marriages?

Identity of their child compromised and changed,this happens mostly in case of girl child...

Do we have law to protect this fear of parents?

Do we have any law which assures protection of identity of the marrying couple,specially the girl child even after marriage in case of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages?

No...we dont...

In the time when we call our self modern and cultured,the human race is seeing inhumanity at its worst and all under the name of I am a certifiable Idiotn,atleast in most cases it is under the name of I am a certifiable Idiotn.

The idea of this article is to understand the mentality and view of people towards "inter I am a certifiable Idiotus love marriages" and here are few very common examples which you can try and evaluate your self.

A hindu father will never appreciate his daughter sporting a burkha and her name changed after marriage and so would a Muslim father wud never sport sindoor and chudaa in her hand...

So jumps in "I am a certifiable Idiotn" it influences and plays a major part in deciding whom you marry and if children dont think the same way

This is where " Honour" comes in and then a huge bulk of social issues...

There was a time and even now marrying outside the community is a big thing for example:

if a Punjabi boy marries a Maharashtrian or vice versa but within the so called " similar believers" ( Hindus) but different in many aspects ,it is not accepted by all but then it is not hated as much as one would do in case of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages,it is a fact no one can deny...

Couples marrying within the Hindu and sub hindu communities or communities who do not call themselves hindus but are similar in many ways and beliefs,face objections but later the chances of them getting acceptance is fairly large compared to Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages.

The same applies to other I am a certifiable Idiotns as well and if you feel it does not happen then look around you will change your mind.

Now people have started accepting marriages within different communities but same I am a certifiable Idiotus belief,even Amir Khan showed this in the last segment...where after a long time though but the Marwadi Marathi pair got accepted...

Now this did not happen over night,it took ages for this to happen and this happened only after community was educated and there was trust developed...

Following rules should be introduced...to pacify and improve role pf parents which would open doors for communication and at least cut of role of outsiders,relatives and saviors of society who under the name of "honor" kill lovers...

By law,nature and everything one can imagine,our parents have right over us and even when deciding whom we marry becoz it affects them as well,if we expect from them then even they have the right to expect from us

But the present set of laws regarding " Right to decide whom one marries" is only with children and this imbalance is creating mess in the society and problems for lovers.

1) It should be mandatory to take approval of both living parents ( of boy and girl) in case of marriage and in rare cases if they are not alive then government should approve with certain terms and conditions.

2) An independent body shud be made to keep a check on inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages which ensures there is no conversion and identity of the individuals is kept intact...

3) The idea of an individual has a right to choose his own I am a certifiable Idiotn is good but activities like "luv jihad" and other forceful conversions under the name of love and marriage has seriously hurt this thought where many raise questions over the true reasons of conversion,if it is by will or force or no other choice,specially in case of girls who marry a boy from other I am a certifiable Idiotn,hence an law shud be enforced where the identity will remain the same after marriage.

4) Children shud be given exposure to both I am a certifiable Idiotns and not one and this shud be taken care by enforcing law..

5) Respect and tolerance toward other I am a certifiable Idiotn shud not be kept merely as preaches and part of politicians speech but shud be practiced with law ensuring it...

6) By law use of surnames should be banned as it is the basic criteria of differentiation,instead of that mother's name should be last name and father's name in between.

7) "Live in relationships should be banned completely."

We as Indians are multi cultural country...its unlike west or other nations where the country has one dominant I am a certifiable Idiotn and culture..

The west is open to love marriages becoz it has one dominant culture and I am a certifiable Idiotn and it is "christianity" ...

Problems due to multi cultural society have already begun in france and UK...

Boss yahan channels mein inter I am a certifiable Idiotn love stories bata do toh show band karva dete hai..real life mein shaadi toh dur ki baat hai...

Count the number of shows showing inter I am a certifiable Idiotn love stories...hardly few

Becoz it leads to controversies and no one wants to hurt mass sentiments..

which means majority sentiments..so even the channels and makers of show are diplomatic and know what shud not be showed and why it shud not be showed...

To avoid killings,to avoid exploitation of both parents and lovers it is important to consider point of view of both..

Hence law shud be enforced to protect feelings of both parents and children and not just one...

To pacify and kill this habit and passion of killing lovers a set of law with rules protecting rights of both parents and children will rule out involvement of so called society and outsiders.

Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages:

Is it so easy for parents incase of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages to accept it?

My answer is no and it might never happen...

Politicians,moderates,social workers,media and those like aamir khan cannot expect change to come over night and incase of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages it is hard to come untill and unless there is trust developed between followers of different I am a certifiable Idiotns and the assurance that identity of each I am a certifiable Idiotn will be respected and protected and this identity wud be kept far from superior inferior or any other kind of differentiation..

Going by human mentality this will be indeed the 8th wonder...if it happens...there might be examples but they are few...

Inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriage means marrying a completely new culture which might be ok for the lovers but they cannot force their family members to accept it,how can anyone gaurantee that love marriages always happen out of pure love and not with other motive...one such motive is "love Jihad" and I hope u will atleast not deny this fact...

When majority even though with moderate views towards I am a certifiable Idiotn wont accept inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages then why promote and preach for it...

Even though we are in 2012 still the parents feel what if theri children bring some one who is not even from the same I am a certifiable Idiotn and marry...? ur thoughts on this Mr Khan,can u deny this tht is still prevelant and is a dominant tht?over here I am considering views of those who are not on social networking platforms and their acts prove hw much they hate inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages...

InterI am a certifiable Idiotn marriages are the root cause of distrust among the I am a certifiable Idiotus communities and shud be banned and believe it or not it is one of the main reasons y parents avoid girl child,with fear of future circumstances when they look around whts happening in the society...

Girl childs freedon,education and working prospect is hampered by this one thought of inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriage...atleast focus on these points which are there in the society and are major driving force in deciding the future of a girl child..

If law is introduced to protect this feeling and fear of parents then see the change...neither lovers will get killed atleast not at the rate it is now and girl child and their parents will have an entirely new and improved view...

Inter caste marriages:

Coming down to Intercaste marriages:

They shud be strongly recommended,Inter caste marriages...are lifeline for the I am a certifiable Idiotn and it is very important they are promoted...

As of now if it is scientifically proved that same gotra marriages result in weak and genetically poor children then,law shud be enforced against same gotra marriages..becoz genetically it is not gud and wud result in genetically weak children...wud accept scientific explanations and answers if any...to rectify my opinions...

I end with a fact tht,one wud accept inter caste of marriages within the various streams of hindu I am a certifiable Idiotn but do not hope inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages will be accepted so soon when there is a sense of distrust among the I am a certifiable Idiotns and when all the I am a certifiable Idiotns are striving for their own survival,if udont believe it then look at the blood shed around the world...and marriage and marriage thru love is a safe door where one can deny other I am a certifiable Idiotn and favour his own...atleast for now it seems so...

I strongly object killing and the those who do it should be hanged and there should be law enforced but there should be another law enforced.

Aamir it was a poor show with research in the wrong direction which did not even touch the root cause of y such incidents happen in the society...

If u wanna enlight people go one step at a time and dont push your views becoz moderates like me too will object it...

The article was edited to put forth my view in a better manner.

Edited by Chitrashi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#55
Hmm when those who want to bring change are denying the core reasons then wht's the point..

Even I know wht the episode was all about...

I just said why it was a flop show and what he should have concentrated on...

anyways..i am not taking it to religion you guys are thinking like that and i cant do much about it..religion is one of the core reasons...

all i discussed is what influences marriages decision, why these killings happen and why it is necessary to protect rights of parents...

wht's the point in blind approach towards a factor which is there experienced in day to day life...

I have written what i felt becoz my right to express is protected...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Dear Mr. Khatri,

Since you don't seem to be able to grasp a simple request made to you a number of times by me and other members of the forum to NOT discuss religion, since it had nothing to do with the show and it is topic that can create strife. I decided to run a simple experiment.

I've taken your edited article and replaced the word "Religio" with something else, in bold red. My text editor tells me that there were 43 replacements made. Below is your article as is except for the replacements made.

I'm aware that my response might get me my first warning on IF, but I'm willing to take the risk in order to perhaps drive the point home to you that NO ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS RELIGION here.

We are social animals man,then how can a social event as important infact the most important " Marriage and decision regarding it be left only to children and not their parents?

" One should be identified by his name,his father's name in between and last name that of mother,surnames should be banned becoz they help one differentiate others."

Involve parents,protect interests and rights of parents on their children and see the change?

But why involve parents?

What are their problems and why do they oppose?

Addressing the above issues below.

To the point:

Aamir's new show is definitely different,something only he could do and was much needed,I liked all the previous episodes but not the one aired last sunday which was based on "Love Marriages".

He spoke about what happens to "Lovers" but he did not even come close to analyzing why it happens to lovers,unlike his previous episodes and issues he not only showed what happens but also discussed why it happens, but he did not this time and that is why the show was a complete waste of time and disappointed me and many others.

It wasn't expected from Aamir Khan atleast.

But why he did not touch the reasons why it happens to lovers,becoz he knew the reasons are a sensitive matter and the reasons are

1) I am a certifiable Idiotn

2) Caste

3) Constitution

Whether one believes or not the above three factors influence "Marriage" in a big,big manner...

and when it is love marriage then the impact is even bigger and far more intense...

Aamir may not have touched the reason why "Lovers are treated like that but I would in my article,becoz on television when anything is related to above three factors I am a certifiable Idiotn,caste and Law it is a sensitive matter and diplomacy is the best stand one can take and even Amir did the same and that as a big let down indeed by Mr Khan...now when everyone is talking about bringing change in the society then why hesitate to talk about the reasons and factors responsible for the mess in the society...

If he can talk about sex,child abuse then why not I am a certifiable Idiotn,caste and constitution and laws which influence marriage to such great extent.Talking about child abuse,same sex marriages,study of sex in early age to students,all this was considered taboo and people avoided these chats in open but now they are not,then why not talk openly about the three factors above...

Why??????????????? just becoz they are too sensitive...I want to ex[press and

Below is my take on "Love marriages" and why those killings happened and will continue to happen.

There are three facts I am going to discuss in this article

1) Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages

2) Inter caste marriages

3) Constitution and Law.

To start with

"Marriage" is such an important and turning point in one's life that it not only affects the individuals who get married but also affects their parents ( naturally) brothers and sisters,then the relatives and at last the community one belongs to,marriages are taken as examples and influence one's behavior and his stance in the society...

Example: If inter I am a certifiable Idiotus or inter community marriage happens in one family of a community the other families of the same community start implementing restrictions specially on girl child which further affects the number of girl child in the society,their education and career.

Constitution:

It was said on the show that Indian constitution is influenced by British constitution and British constitution is influenced by their culture and beliefs,but amir made fun of the poor old guy who was trying to put forth his view,clearly aamir had a negative image and perception of the panch who were sitting there and he allotted minimum time to them and cut them in between...

The panch may be orthodox but what he was trying to say had some reason and weight which aamir either purposely or since he knew their views was against what he thought he ignored them clearly...well coming to the topic

When it comes to marriages then it is a social aspect of any community and majority of laws are influenced by culture...

Hence a Muslim is allowed to marry four times but the same is not applicable to others...

The present Law needs amendments and introduction of few new ones becoz

My first impression is under the name of freedom and children having right to choose their own life partner the basic rights and feelings of parents is ignored and not protected by Law.

Parents are left with nothing but watch their children do what ever they want and their role is literally sacrificed becoz Law favors only the children.

Its important that Law favors both parents and children in case of marriages at least.

This imbalance in particular is a major reason which has led to those incidents and this imbalance where the constitution favuring only the children under the name of freedom will only intensify the belief of those who kill lovers...

If parents are given protection and assurance by Law then the door opens for communication.

But what do parents fear when it comes to inter I am a certifiable Idiotus and inter caste marriages?

Identity of their child compromised and changed,this happens mostly in case of girl child...

Do we have law to protect this fear of parents?

Do we have any law which assures protection of identity of the marrying couple,specially the girl child even after marriage in case of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages?

No...we dont...

In the time when we call our self modern and cultured,the human race is seeing inhumanity at its worst and all under the name of I am a certifiable Idiotn,atleast in most cases it is under the name of I am a certifiable Idiotn.

The idea of this article is to understand the mentality and view of people towards "inter I am a certifiable Idiotus love marriages" and here are few very common examples which you can try and evaluate your self.

A hindu father will never appreciate his daughter sporting a burkha and her name changed after marriage and so would a Muslim father wud never sport sindoor and chudaa in her hand...

So jumps in "I am a certifiable Idiotn" it influences and plays a major part in deciding whom you marry and if children dont think the same way

This is where " Honour" comes in and then a huge bulk of social issues...

There was a time and even now marrying outside the community is a big thing for example:

if a Punjabi boy marries a Maharashtrian or vice versa but within the so called " similar believers" ( Hindus) but different in many aspects ,it is not accepted by all but then it is not hated as much as one would do in case of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages,it is a fact no one can deny...

Couples marrying within the Hindu and sub hindu communities or communities who do not call themselves hindus but are similar in many ways and beliefs,face objections but later the chances of them getting acceptance is fairly large compared to Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages.

The same applies to other I am a certifiable Idiotns as well and if you feel it does not happen then look around you will change your mind.

Now people have started accepting marriages within different communities but same I am a certifiable Idiotus belief,even Amir Khan showed this in the last segment...where after a long time though but the Marwadi Marathi pair got accepted...

Now this did not happen over night,it took ages for this to happen and this happened only after community was educated and there was trust developed...

Following rules should be introduced...to pacify and improve role pf parents which would open doors for communication and at least cut of role of outsiders,relatives and saviors of society who under the name of "honor" kill lovers...

By law,nature and everything one can imagine,our parents have right over us and even when deciding whom we marry becoz it affects them as well,if we expect from them then even they have the right to expect from us

But the present set of laws regarding " Right to decide whom one marries" is only with children and this imbalance is creating mess in the society and problems for lovers.

1) It should be mandatory to take approval of both living parents ( of boy and girl) in case of marriage and in rare cases if they are not alive then government should approve with certain terms and conditions.

2) An independent body shud be made to keep a check on inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages which ensures there is no conversion and identity of the individuals is kept intact...

3) The idea of an individual has a right to choose his own I am a certifiable Idiotn is good but activities like "luv jihad" and other forceful conversions under the name of love and marriage has seriously hurt this thought where many raise questions over the true reasons of conversion,if it is by will or force or no other choice,specially in case of girls who marry a boy from other I am a certifiable Idiotn,hence an law shud be enforced where the identity will remain the same after marriage.

4) Children shud be given exposure to both I am a certifiable Idiotns and not one and this shud be taken care by enforcing law..

5) Respect and tolerance toward other I am a certifiable Idiotn shud not be kept merely as preaches and part of politicians speech but shud be practiced with law ensuring it...

6) By law use of surnames should be banned as it is the basic criteria of differentiation,instead of that mother's name should be last name and father's name in between.

7) "Live in relationships should be banned completely."

We as Indians are multi cultural country...its unlike west or other nations where the country has one dominant I am a certifiable Idiotn and culture..

The west is open to love marriages becoz it has one dominant culture and I am a certifiable Idiotn and it is "christianity" ...

Problems due to multi cultural society have already begun in france and UK...

Boss yahan channels mein inter I am a certifiable Idiotn love stories bata do toh show band karva dete hai..real life mein shaadi toh dur ki baat hai...

Count the number of shows showing inter I am a certifiable Idiotn love stories...hardly few

Becoz it leads to controversies and no one wants to hurt mass sentiments..

which means majority sentiments..so even the channels and makers of show are diplomatic and know what shud not be showed and why it shud not be showed...

To avoid killings,to avoid exploitation of both parents and lovers it is important to consider point of view of both..

Hence law shud be enforced to protect feelings of both parents and children and not just one...

To pacify and kill this habit and passion of killing lovers a set of law with rules protecting rights of both parents and children will rule out involvement of so called society and outsiders.

Inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages:

Is it so easy for parents incase of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages to accept it?

My answer is no and it might never happen...

Politicians,moderates,social workers,media and those like aamir khan cannot expect change to come over night and incase of inter I am a certifiable Idiotus marriages it is hard to come untill and unless there is trust developed between followers of different I am a certifiable Idiotns and the assurance that identity of each I am a certifiable Idiotn will be respected and protected and this identity wud be kept far from superior inferior or any other kind of differentiation..

Going by human mentality this will be indeed the 8th wonder...if it happens...there might be examples but they are few...

Inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriage means marrying a completely new culture which might be ok for the lovers but they cannot force their family members to accept it,how can anyone gaurantee that love marriages always happen out of pure love and not with other motive...one such motive is "love Jihad" and I hope u will atleast not deny this fact...

When majority even though with moderate views towards I am a certifiable Idiotn wont accept inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages then why promote and preach for it...

Even though we are in 2012 still the parents feel what if theri children bring some one who is not even from the same I am a certifiable Idiotn and marry...? ur thoughts on this Mr Khan,can u deny this tht is still prevelant and is a dominant tht?over here I am considering views of those who are not on social networking platforms and their acts prove hw much they hate inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages...

InterI am a certifiable Idiotn marriages are the root cause of distrust among the I am a certifiable Idiotus communities and shud be banned and believe it or not it is one of the main reasons y parents avoid girl child,with fear of future circumstances when they look around whts happening in the society...

Girl childs freedon,education and working prospect is hampered by this one thought of inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriage...atleast focus on these points which are there in the society and are major driving force in deciding the future of a girl child..

If law is introduced to protect this feeling and fear of parents then see the change...neither lovers will get killed atleast not at the rate it is now and girl child and their parents will have an entirely new and improved view...

Inter caste marriages:

Coming down to Intercaste marriages:

They shud be strongly recommended,Inter caste marriages...are lifeline for the I am a certifiable Idiotn and it is very important they are promoted...

As of now if it is scientifically proved that same gotra marriages result in weak and genetically poor children then,law shud be enforced against same gotra marriages..becoz genetically it is not gud and wud result in genetically weak children...wud accept scientific explanations and answers if any...to rectify my opinions...

I end with a fact tht,one wud accept inter caste of marriages within the various streams of hindu I am a certifiable Idiotn but do not hope inter I am a certifiable Idiotn marriages will be accepted so soon when there is a sense of distrust among the I am a certifiable Idiotns and when all the I am a certifiable Idiotns are striving for their own survival,if udont believe it then look at the blood shed around the world...and marriage and marriage thru love is a safe door where one can deny other I am a certifiable Idiotn and favour his own...atleast for now it seems so...

I strongly object killing and the those who do it should be hanged and there should be law enforced but there should be another law enforced.

Aamir it was a poor show with research in the wrong direction which did not even touch the root cause of y such incidents happen in the society...

If u wanna enlight people go one step at a time and dont push your views becoz moderates like me too will object it...

The article was edited to put forth my view in a better manner.




He spoke about what happens to "Lovers" but he did not even come close to analyzing why it happens to lovers,unlike his previous episodes and issues he not only showed what happens but also discussed why it happens, but he did not this time and that is why the show was a complete waste of time and disappointed me and many others.
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Oh gosh i am terribly laughing after reading ur post and the replies of Chitrashi 🤣🤣.i cant stop it even after 10 minutes ...what a wild idea u are having about girls ,I cant believe all the girls are jumping on a pond without caring about their identities .Even the girls will care (i am indicating those u are accusing as love runners and feared by every parent in india according to ur views )If they are given proper identity.Why girl is not considered as lineage of a family ? where is the identity first.can u accept ur sister superior to u in ur family ? If u are not open in this case ,how can u drag solution .
Rural uneducated girl is running away because ,she doesn't have education, economic independence ,and voice in her home ,every thing maintained by her father and brother ,every right is limited to a girl (by the same parent ) . Look, society always have many faults ,we can't say they are 100% right . In u have proper Memory ,u can remember reading social Book s,where in history section they mentioned about Early Vedic and Later Vedic period ...(I am also a hindu and i love my religion ,but not as a fanatic ,i will open heartly accept the flaws in it ) .During Vedic period the same religion u are protesting allowed the girls to choose their partners them selves Why ? can u say (dont say its called swayambar and all same status men will arrive for that .no love marriage are clearly accepted ,thats why we have satyavan savithri stories and many other local fantasies in puranas. )

It is changed during later vedic period ,because of war time and female abduction ...in fear they closed the door for all her right s. thats not the case ,we are free here ,but only problem our way of thinking .I accept that cultural sudden change to any elderly is impossible .but they are not marrying .But if a younger one is adamant in that we cant say anything .
Its the fault of parent that ,they are not openly explained the consequences of Love marriages. young ones are not brainless ,all we need spend time to understand the possibilities rather than pinning rules over them .




So clearly we can accept our religion is changeable according to situation and life cycle ,when u go through our history of india ..u cant even think about what u have written after 50 years ...because no one can stop world form its progressing ...all narrow shadow will go down definitely
Edited by vanadhi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very interesting.. Amir can come and preach about intereligion marriage.. and we in forum can not discuss about religion?? better stop discussing the whole topic then.. If you discuss about that disgusting episode .. religion would come into picture.
Btw who is interested to know all these from Amir? someone who left his wife and grown up kid telling us the definition of love !!
Amir - give us a break and teach yourself first!!
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Originally posted by: vanadhi


So clearly we can accept our religion is changeable according to situation and life cycle ,when u go through our history of india ..u cant even think about what u have written after 50 years ...because no one can stop world form its progressing ...all narrow shadow will go down definitely

Sadly some religions never change with time and there are enough fanatics!! Real life is sometimes harder than what is appears on paper!!
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unfortunately everyone is discussing about religion when it is only one of the points I have raised...
Such is the impact of this word that everything else is left behind and people replying can find only religion in it..
No one able to understand the limitations and core reasons I have concentrated on..
Emphasis on importance of parents and their role...
Emphasis on promoting inter caste marriages...
Wht one is interested is in stretching the religious aspect...becoz by giving a diplomatic answer or approach one is safe...
For god sake be true to urself and what you see around and dont tell me "religion" is never an issue when it is about love marriage...
And u hv never come accross a single incident where parents have never had an objection ..
The point in the article is not about religion at all but how it influences behaviours
...the point I have raised is
Why lovers are treated like this and three main reasons ...
I am not in favour or against religion...I have only written how religion acts as a major barrier and why it acts like a major barrier...
and how we can pacify the impact of religion...
for tht i have suggested 7 pointer change in constitution...which increases the role of parents..and once parents approve it is none of anyone's bussiness to inter fere whether relatives or community or society...
Now just becoz parents are not taken into confidence and their concerns about the identity of their child is not protected all these killings and bans happen...
Once the law protects rights of both parents and child and their born identity even after marriage the issue will get pacified automatically...
It is of no use preaching how orthodox it is to think "religion" as a barrier..
But Indian society is not just restricted to metro cities,NRI's and public figures and what they think...it is about our villages our traditional families which are still the majority in the country and it is about what they think as well...
Merely preaching religion shud not be a barrier it is old fashioned thinking wont make any difference...
The fact is if you cannot think on my other two aspects "constitution,law and if u only want to criticize me over religion then neither u understood what aamir showed and nor what I wrote...
"The entire article is about Why????????????? such things happen and how we can pacify it if not stop it and if I have brought religion in it doesnt mean I am an orthodox person with some wierd views on which some jerk can reply and provide laughter material for others...
I have only highlighted the points and it is upto who reads it...to analyse whether he has experienced those in his surroundings in his family in the community or society he resides in...
It is not about right or wrong it is about if it is there or not...
Edited by ComebackMaaneet - 13 years ago

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