'Intolerance to luv'was a waste of time Amir. - Page 7

Originally posted by: akash08

Very interesting.. Amir can come and preach about intereligion marriage.. and we in forum can not discuss about religion?? better stop discussing the whole topic then.. If you discuss about that disgusting episode .. religion would come into picture.

Btw who is interested to know all these from Amir? someone who left his wife and grown up kid telling us the definition of love !!

Amir - give us a break and teach yourself first!!

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet

unfortunately everyone is discussing about religion when it is only one of the points I have raised...

Such is the impact of this word that everything else is left behind and people replying can find only religion in it..

No one able to understand the limitations and core reasons I have concentrated on..

Emphasis on importance of parents and their role...

Emphasis on promoting inter caste marriages...

Wht one is interested is in stretching the religious aspect...becoz by giving a diplomatic answer or approach one is safe...

For god sake be true to urself and what you see around and dont tell me "religion" is never an issue when it is about love marriage...

And u hv never come accross a single incident where parents have never had an objection ..

The point in the article is not about religion at all but how it influences behaviours

...the point I have raised is

Why lovers are treated like this and three main reasons ...

I am not in favour or against religion...I have only written how religion acts as a major barrier and why it acts like a major barrier...

and how we can pacify the impact of religion...

for tht i have suggested 7 pointer change in constitution...which increases the role of parents..and once parents approve it is none of anyone's bussiness to inter fere whether relatives or community or society...

Now just becoz parents are not taken into confidence and their concerns about the identity of their child is not protected all these killings and bans happen...

Once the law protects rights of both parents and child and their born identity even after marriage the issue will get pacified automatically...

It is of no use preaching how orthodox it is to think "religion" as a barrier..

But Indian society is not just restricted to metro cities,NRI's and public figures and what they think...it is about our villages our traditional families which are still the majority in the country and it is about what they think as well...

Merely preaching religion shud not be a barrier it is old fashioned thinking wont make any difference...

The fact is if you cannot think on my other two aspects "constitution,law and if u only want to criticize me over religion then neither u understood what aamir showed and nor what I wrote...

"The entire article is about Why????????????? such things happen and how we can pacify it if not stop it and if I have brought religion in it doesnt mean I am an orthodox person with some wierd views on which some jerk can reply and provide laughter material for others...

I have only highlighted the points and it is upto who reads it...to analyse whether he has experienced those in his surroundings in his family in the community or society he resides in...

It is not about right or wrong it is about if it is there or not...

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

The show was NOT about inter-religion marriage, is that so difficult to comprehend? It was about the rights of a sane adult to select the life-partner they want. Surely, no right-thinking individual would have objection to that. Or are you an advocate of the Khap too? The Khaps actually operate against not just Hindu adults, but adults from the same community, social status based on an inane antiquated and imperfect understanding.

The issue being raised by the topic maker is his own preoccupation, if you take the trouble to go and read his earlier posts. He's himself admitted that the issue of religion was not once mentioned on the show, but he wants to raise it here because He thinks that is what should've been discussed.

And seriously, if Amir's ex-wife and his children have no objection to his marriage, why should you? Don't act holier than thou. Amir is not the first person in India who's left his wife and kids. Or does your moral outrage not extend to Boney Kapoor and Dharmendra?

Seriously, the personal life of the host has no bearing on the issue under discussion. This is like accidentally stepping into cow-dung and then demanding a character certificate from the person who points out that you've soiled your shoes.

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

@Akash
Well my friend in that case, you should listen to Amir Khan all the more, because he does preach about what he's practicing. He's got no objection to such marriages, and he practices the same in private life.

Neither do you have any knowledge about me to say whether I'm speaking from bookish knowledge or from personal experience. I have a Jain Aunt, a Christian Sis-in Law and a Muslim Bro-in law and we are all on excellent terms with all. But you see I come from a family that is above such pettiness.

We judge people on the basis of their actions and thoughts not an accident of birth. Like I said earlier no one can choose where one is born, but people have a control on the type of person they aspire to be.

My personal opinion of the actor and the host notwithstanding, I do choose to view the issues raised in the show on the merits and demerits of the issue alone. Perhaps keeping an open mind and being above personal prejudices might help us all.

And seriously, I do understand the dynamics behind religious fanaticism and its inherent dangers, which is why I've been requesting the TM to refrain from harping on that subject.

Originally posted by: ComebackMaaneet

Great to hear that but not everyone have such understanding and for that Law should be amended..and parents right must be protected..

If it was so simple for everyone to understand what is right or wrong then no one would need law,constitution.

Your family is an example a rare one and i mentioned that ,I am talking about majorities...

One such example was there on the tv the poor girl was pleading her family to forgive her and accept her...

Had law protected her identity and assured her parents her identity wud be protected then I am sure things wud have been different and quiet possible she wud have featured in the last segment where reunion was shown and not in the first segment where she clearly missed her family and friends...

You have been criticising me becoz of my comments on religion and its impact ...

u ignored my views on rights of parents...which indirectly comprises the main part of the article,all i have written directly or indirectly is about how bad parents feel and why their rights should be protected.

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

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Secondly do you understand the definition of a Sane Adult? Have you ever heard of the words "Rights of the Individual"? There are no rights that a parent can exercise over an offspring, once the child attains adulthood. After that it is up to the parent to form a bridge of communication and understanding with the offspring. Bad parents fail in that. That does not give them the right to bully the child, beat them, torture them, maim them or kill them.

What you are suggesting is like because there are a few people who do not know how to boil an egg, the country's government should pass a law that forbids anyone from eating boiled egg. Silly isn't it?

If you have suggestions for the GOI, this is not the platform to do it. This is solely about Tv shows and what's shown on them. What you are hellbent on thrusting down our throats has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Perhaps if you write to your local newspaper or blog about it, it might be a better platform. Certainly not this forum.