Honor Killing - My POV on the epi.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Somehow after the intense appeals of the first 3 episodes, the one on Medical Malpractices and today's Honor Killing have both left me cold. I think in the one on Medical Malpractices - the show was spread too thin. A lot of issues were covered under one umbrella that probably required individual episodes.

We saw SMJ deal with discrimination against women in wonderful separate episodes - Female Infanticide, Dowry Deaths and today Honor Killings. All are but different facets of bias against women.

Why then would the makers choose to lump
under one head -
  • Public Healthcare grievances,
  • Private Malpractice,
  • Doctor-Pharma-Lab nexus,
  • Med School Malfeasance,
  • Medical Test malpractices,
  • Drug Distribution Corruption

These are huge issues and there are a lot of worms under the snakes underbelly that are still to be attacked.

My issue with last week's episode was that there was not enough data on
number of Hospitals and Doctors available for rural areas?
Difference between rural healthcare and urban healthcare
Oh! it goes on and on. My point not enough research, not enough statistical data.

The problem with today's episode was that the makers seemed to hesitate to make a strong point. Also, again like last week not enough research. Out of the 3 stories taken - two have been covered in other shows and extensively in media. Why did the makers not try o approach other victims' families? There could've been other stories that the public at large is not mentally immune to.

The issue of Honor Killings has been achieving alarming proportions in the last 20 years or so. Some statistical data would've helped make that impact. The entire show seemed to be lop-sided with heavy emphasis on the North, what about the South and the West? There are enough horror stories emanating from there too. Maybe some attention should've been given there.

But most importantly, the show seemed to ignore the fact that in most cases of Honor Killings, the opposition seems to have come from the girls' families. Maybe the questions raised should've been -

  • Is it ok for a son to marry whom he will, but when the daughter exercises the same right, then it becomes a question of honor?
  • In most cases the girls seemed to come from affluent and stronger families than the boys. Then the real question is, is the opposition to the match on economic and social status grounds and being camouflaged under the heading of Honor killings?
  • Isn't Honor Killing another guise for the murder of girls who die due to insufficient dowries? If the girls' parents have opposed the match, obviously the girls would've come without dowries.
  • Of late there is a trend of girls resorting to violence against their own families, feeling that if they broached the topic of marriage to the person they liked, they might be killed instead. Isn't the social blindness to Honor Killing therefore disrupting the basic fabric of the society itself by undermining trust within families?
  • What guise does Honor Killing take in Urban areas vis-vis Rural areas? In Urban areas with better infrastructure and access to help resources, why is it that the guilty are able to get away with such heinous crimes?
  • Why aren't these cases treated as premeditated and preplanned murders? Isn't the use of of the term "Honor Killings" giving these acts of barbarity some sort of social approval and standing? Why do we hesitate to term the culprits - thugs and goons and killers?
In short why wasn't there an effort to take away the adjective "Honor" from Honor Killings? There is after all no Honor in it.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Firstly I love the last line you have written...there is no houner in killing.

Secondly Im from the UK so none of the stories covered in today's episodes have I or anyone I know here have heard of before watching this episode of satyamev jayete. The stories were very sad and heart wrenching to hear. I think in most of the stories it was the girls family who were opposed infact I think all the ones that were shown the girls family was against.

I agree that other areas in India should have been covered to maybe not in detail but should have been mentiond because the majority of it was focused in the north allthough at the end they did show the rajasthan side which is north gujarat.. Im not to sure😕

I guess I don't have in depth knoweldge of this topic in India, I have heard of it in news etc but not so much in detail. I though I should shed some light on what its like where I live. In the UK there are very rare cases..there are cases but very rare..here there are inter-religion marriages in the Indian communties,alothough not alot there is a good handfull of people,so inter-caste marriages are actually a norm with the majority of the Indian community in which I live in.
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Kruti

The story of Rizwan murder case has been beaten to death in the media. From the day Rizwan's body was found to date, the story is dragged out and analysed to death on most news channels. Most Indians are very familiar with the story. Same witha nother story - the Nitish Katara murder case. In both the cases, the boys happened to fall in love with and marry girls from influential political/business families. They were murdered and the girls recanted later refusing to even appear for court hearings against their family members.

The other story of Manoj-Bubli was covered in Crime Patrol and it was dealt with far more research and detail.

Which is why I was asking for other cases to be covered. Daily the papers are full of stories where young couples are murdered for the crime of falling in love. This is a common phenomenon across India, but unfortunately the show focused only on the north, Btw, Rajasthan is a separate state north of Gujarat.

Somethings that I missed out mentioning in the first post - there is a lot of judicial activism on this issue, which was not covered. Inadequacy of support to the couple was also not touched upon.

There was a recent case in UP where a father went to lodge a complaint about his missing daughter. The SP (Superintendent of Police, which is akin to Chief of Police in American parlance) told the father that if his daughter had gone missing, he would have first killed his own daughter then killed himself, instead of filing a missing report. And that is the apathy and attitude of those who are supposed to uphold the law.

I'm sure racial discrimination exists in all parts of the world. In India it is in the name of caste and community, in other countries it is on the color of the skin and your country of origin. An Indian parent in US or UK would still not accept it if the daughter evinced a desire to marry someone from the African countries.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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no doubt that the show has either lumped too much or left some stuff out...i can only imagine how much footage is editted out in the end...i would not want to be in their shoes...those must be some long days in the studio...every sub topic could turn in to a topic in itself...with sub topics of its own...and on and on...each issue brings another thing to light...do they make the show so focused on one thing as they did in the first 2 epis?...or do they make it less focused and include more issues in one epi like they have been doing since...the balance is hard to acheive for this show

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Chitrashi= You write so well & cover the moot points so comprehensively that it leaves the rest of us with precious little to say👏👏👏
.WELL SAID!

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Thank you for bringing that bit to my notice :) Yes thousands of hours of research would've gone into each topic and long hours of shooting and somewhere the decision to cover as much ground as possible rather than stick to the tried and tested and obvious tear-jerkers :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: znursingh

@ Chitrashi= You write so well & cover the moot points so comprehensively that it leaves the rest of us with precious little to say👏👏👏
.WELL SAID!

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Thank you kind Sir, LOL

Now I know why my topics die such quick deaths, I say it all so there is little scope for discussion :)

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Originally posted by: Chitrashi


Thank you kind Sir, LOL

Now I know why my topics die such quick deaths, I say it all so there is little scope for discussion :)



PROBABLY! It IS difficult to argue with a well presented case!! And Ma'am would be more appropriate please!! Don't want to be changing my gender at this late stage!!!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ouch !! Faux Pas, pardonne moi Ma'm
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Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Ouch !! Faux Pas, pardonne moi Ma'm



No problem! Most bright posters are young ladies-I AM SO utterly delighted that the youngsters are thinking so progressively & articulating so expressively.No need to apologize-there is no give away clue that you missed out on!

👏CARRY RIGHT ON!👏
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