The undercurrents today... - Page 2

Originally posted by: Bazinga

@znursingh No offense taken, I was just putting forth my different POV and I am glad you find our posts sensible :). Bold red font is my signature on I-F and I had only that color left 'coz all the other colors were taken, plus that is reflective of my personality as well. Just like my font's color, I am an in-your-face kinda person so I hope you won't mind :). To put forth my POV again, I don't think SMJ intends to get too much into detail about any issue and their aim is to show just enough to awaken but that does not mean they should keep it on the surface like they did last time. I honestly did not feel that they kept it on the surface or kind of trivialized it this time. However, I do understand where you are coming from and I respect your opinion.

Thank you...but whats wrong with the pedestrian black? Your writing & opinions are bright & sensible enough to stand alone & validated by your writing.I think.

As for those who feel the need to hit the panic button about the future of the country-well more power to them.The apathy of our generation...the infamous Chalta Hai attitude..the policy of laisse faire...since it didn't imact OUR lives directly then and there...THAT has brought this to pass.

The country can't AFFORD another emotionally uninvolved & morally lazy generation like ours.We have laid a heavy burden on the younger generation & MUST now-at the very least-applaud & get the back of those who are doing the job that was OURS to do.

Originally posted by: znursingh

While Chitrashi made some important and interesting points, znursingh I am with you on the counter points. If we take almost any general problem plaguing our country, it somehow ends on or leads towards political corruption in general. And to tackle that, I think we need to start small. I remember this political thriller I watched, the lead becomes CM and he is an idealist, so he proposes a bill in the parliament to tackle corruption, obviously that is thumbed down by the entire house, then a senior member with experience suggests that he should not try to trap the big fish directly, instead start with the small fish. What will the big fish feed on when all the small fish are caught? Although, it is not as simple and plain as it sounds in the movie, to apply in reality, it is an interesting concept isn't it? We should start small but the important thing is we should start somewhere and we should not just sit around waiting for the others to start first, someone should possess a backbone to lead the march, like you said. But then again, the leader is only as good as his team, the biggest problem right now is having the right team!

@znursingh Ah! I can't explain the need for having a signature and I can assure you my intent is not to seek attention , can we just settle for it being an annoying quirk of mine, please?

Originally posted by: znursingh

As for those who feel the need to hit the panic button about the future of the country-well more power to them.The apathy of our generation...the infamous Chalta Hai attitude..the policy of laisse faire...since it didn't imact OUR lives directly then and there...THAT has brought this to pass.

The country can't AFFORD another emotionally uninvolved & morally lazy generation like ours.We have laid a heavy burden on the younger generation & MUST now-at the very least-applaud & get the back of those who are doing the job that was OURS to do.

I concur with every word of yours👏. However, I still think it is not too late. If we REALLY want to do something, we still have the time to do it. It is the will that matters.

One part where I felt that the show fell flat. It clubbed together Public health care and Private health care. The case of the lady who was taken for a transplant belonged to malpractices in Private health care. The case of the gardener belonged to Public Health care. We cannot equate the two.

I was watching a report on AIIMS once. Do you realize that over 2000 people queue up outside AIIMS before 7 am every day at the first counter and that is where the Junior doctors have to sort them out as critical, serious, outpatient, repeat and whatever. The Junior doctors have less than 7 second per patient if they do not stop for tea or lunch each day in order to address all the patients of that day.

Why is this pressure on AIIMS? Simply because even in the vicinity of Delhi, the poor have no medical facilities. The villages simply have no doctors. A solution was found by UP which has made it mandatory for all MBBS students to do a 1 year internship in rural areas in order to get their degree. However most students find a way of wriggling out of this mess. Quite often the students are allocated to hospitals and areas close to their home towns and they simply do not got to the Govt. clinics/hospitals or go in only to mark their attendance while working is some other private hospitals.

@znursingh Ah! I can't explain the need for having a signature and I can assure you my intent is not to seek attention , can we just settle for it being an annoying quirk of mine, please?

#### I'm willing to accept ANY quirk in the interest of a good, sensible, AUTHENTIC read.I will simply ignore my watering eyes!! Or try reading with powered "shades"!!!

I concur with every word of yours👏. However, I still think it is not too late. If we REALLY wiant to do something, we still have the time to do it. It is the will that matters.

##### No,No,No-I don't think its too late for our country.I was merely urging that the people who are doing something for "change" need our backing & applause...what I meant was that we don't have the luxury of ANOTHER morally bankrupt generation taking off from where MINE left off.

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Another secret he let me onto - at every level of distribution of a medicine there is as much as a 100% markup on price. From the manufacturer to the marketing to the national distributor, regional distributor, state, district, city, area, wholesaler, retailer. Every stage there is a100% markup on the medicine cost. Most medical retailers will gladly give you a discount of 10-15% on total purchase price. Most medicines are sold without a bill and therefore no tax is paid on them, yet the cost is always tax inclusive.

This applies to EVERY commodity we purchase, not just medicines. There are a lot of middlemen who hog up all the money and give benefit neither to the customers nor to the maker. This gets worse in case of vegetables as the farmers never manage to make profits and that is the reason why most of them are driven to take extreme steps like committing suicide.

As for saving the tax on the bills,that is why I make sure I always collect the bill whenever I buy something. If the shopkeeper forgets to give me the bill, I make sure that he writes it and I collect it.

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

I was watching a report on AIIMS once. Do you realize that over 2000 people queue up outside AIIMS before 7 am every day at the first counter and that is where the Junior doctors have to sort them out as critical, serious, outpatient, repeat and whatever. The Junior doctors have less than 7 second per patient if they do not stop for tea or lunch each day in order to address all the patients of that day.

This is the case with all the public sector health care services, they are quite understaffed. Their situation is horrible, I don't know how do they manage even.

Why is this pressure on AIIMS? Simply because even in the vicinity of Delhi, the poor have no medical facilities. The villages simply have no doctors. A solution was found by UP which has made it mandatory for all MBBS students to do a 1 year internship in rural areas in order to get their degree. However most students find a way of wriggling out of this mess. Quite often the students are allocated to hospitals and areas close to their home towns and they simply do not got to the Govt. clinics/hospitals or go in only to mark their attendance while working is some other private hospitals.

This is just sad. More than the students who are resorting to such practices, the people who ALLOW it should be dealt with in a strict manner. Is there no body to monitor this?

@znursingh It makes me feel very guilty when you say that your eyes water while reading my post :(. Ok, I will stick to the plain old black in this forum. I will reserve my "signature" for the other forums then.

I agree we need to support the generation that is trying to work on the change but I am a little concerned about the motivation of the facebook/twitter lovers. People think having an e-march or "attending an event" on FB is equal to contribution. I know a lot of people dig the Lokpal "revolution" but tell me how many of those who supported actually cared about what happened to it? A deadline was given for its implementation right? What happened to it? Who is following up on that? And how many of the supporters actually bothered about the contents without being judgemental? My point is mindless mobilization just for the "fad" serves no real purpose, we need people with genuinely good intent and self motivation to go out there and actually do the "dirty work", if anything we should support them in doing the dirty work.Sadly, I don't feel so optimistic about this generation either.

@znursingh

I do agree that the solution I have suggested is not easily accessible or affordable to all, but it is one solution.
##### Yes,but even those of us who SHOULD know better & CAN afford it ,take the lazy way out


I was let onto this secret by an elderly chemist.
###### Either we went to the same chemist or there is more than one elderly anarchist chemist!

Another secret he let me onto - at every level of distribution of a medicine there is as much as a 100% markup on price.
###### You & I found out thanks to a friendly chemist...Did we distribute this knowledge for the greater common good?

Every stage there is a100% markup on the medicine cost.
###### That's why I found the IAS officer from Rajesthan SO admirable-He USED his knowledge to help the most disadvantaged in society.And what did I do? I paid for the outrageously priced medicines quietly enough,returned home & MERELY fulminated against Govt policies & fleetingly wondered ,"How do 'the poor' manage"! Ah BAH! I disgust ME mostly.

Most medical retailers will gladly give you a discount of 10-15% on total purchase price. Most medicines are sold without a bill and therefore no tax is paid on them, yet the cost is always tax inclusive.
#### And so after the sin of sloth & self indulgent over spend we add tax evasion to the list

But there ARE signs of hope & we were thankfully introduced to some of them through the program.

PS=Can SOME helpful soul tell me HOW to prevent my computer from so finkishly taking on hues of the ones I'm answering to-desperate signs of wishing to be accepted/assimilated?! I have a mind of my own,why can't the frigging machine STICK to what color & font I want?! Easily influenced????Its a hard life...being a computer idiot in this day & age!!

@znursingh Your font is taking the hue of the post you are answering to because it continues with the hue of the post you are quoting. You can highlight the entire post (use the mouse cursor to highlight your part in the post or simply press Ctrl+A if you want to change the color of the entire post), then click on bold (you can see the icon "B" above your text editor box) if the post you are quoting is in bold. To change the color you have to highlight the post or your reply part of it once again, then click on the icon "A" with a thick black bar underneath it, once you click on it, it will display the color options, select the color you want in the available options.